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If what we read on the site is true, looks like we have a few names..

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A small group of the world’s wealthiest individuals and their foundations collectively fronts more money for the abortion, sterilization and contraception of the human race than Washington.

This billionaire boys club includes such plutocrats as Bill Gates (No. l at $63 billion), Warren Buffet (No. 4 at $28 billion), and Ted Turner (No. 25 at $9 billion)."
The Billionaire Boys Club: The World's Plutocrats at Work to Decrease Population - PRI
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Here are more quotes. If the site has them correct...need I say more?

"#7) David Rockefeller….

“The negative impact of population growth on all of our planetary ecosystems is becoming appallingly evident.”

#8) Jacques Cousteau….

“In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day.”

#9) CNN Founder Ted Turner….

“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

#10) Dave Foreman, Earth First Co-Founder….

“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.”

#11) Prince Phillip, the Duke of Edinburgh….

“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

#12) David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club….

Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license … All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”

#13) Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger….

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

22 Shocking Population Control Quotes From The Global Elite That Will Make You Want To Lose Your Lunch
 
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Here are more quotes. If the site has them correct...need I say more?

"#7) David Rockefeller….

“The negative impact of population growth on all of our planetary ecosystems is becoming appallingly evident.”

#8) Jacques Cousteau….

“In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day.”

#9) CNN Founder Ted Turner….

“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

#10) Dave Foreman, Earth First Co-Founder….

“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.”

#11) Prince Phillip, the Duke of Edinburgh….

“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

#12) David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club….

Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license … All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”

#13) Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger….

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

22 Shocking Population Control Quotes From The Global Elite That Will Make You Want To Lose Your Lunch
What, no protocols of the elders of zion?
 
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There are people and organizations that promote reducing the human population. If people suggest human lives be taken, either old or babies or any age or class, how is it they think they are exempt themselves. Should they not lead by example if they insist in this wrong philosophy?
What people are suggesting to take human life? do you have a source for that? I think the suggestion to reduce the human population is by controlling the birth rate by having fewer children not by taking existing lives.
 
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There are people and organizations that promote reducing the human population. If people suggest human lives be taken, either old or babies or any age or class, how is it they think they are exempt themselves. Should they not lead by example if they insist in this wrong philosophy?
Who is suggesting that?!
 
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He knows we are all sinners. Man cannot and will not save himself or the planet, period. It is wonderful to try and not litter, and etc etc. That will not save us.

Well—if nothing can be done, then this thread is pointless. But where did you get the idea that killing off the very young, and the old and infirm, is under consideration as a means of population control? Even as a strawman, that’s as crackpot as they come.
 
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What people are suggesting to take human life? do you have a source for that? I think the suggestion to reduce the human population is by controlling the birth rate by having fewer children not by taking existing lives.
People that want to knock off a few hundred million from the population do not strike me as being concerned with others. Maybe that somehow resonates with you as love and concern for others.
Looking at the statements of some fear mongering population control freaks, one can hardly help but to be struck by their fanaticism and disdain for human kind and God.
"#16) Thomas Ferguson, former official in the U.S. State Department Office of Population Affairs….

“There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it….”

#17) Mikhail Gorbachev….

“We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”
22 Shocking Population Control Quotes From The Global Elite That Will Make You Want To Lose Your Lunch

I posted a link that showed lives were lost due to defective birth control gear. The examples of forced sterilization and 'whack every child but one' policy of China show that mass death is the result of this death religion. Then we have the mass child sacrifices pushed by foundations, the UN, and governments and education and the medical system. That is taking tens of millions of human lives every year.
 
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Who is suggesting that?!
Who is not these days? I gave lots of links and quotes. Family planning is a phrase that means population reduction. Basically they plan how to stop babies from being born, and how to kill them. So whenever you hear the words family planning, exchange them for 'mass murder of the unborn' and you might get the idea.
 
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Well—if nothing can be done, then this thread is pointless. But where did you get the idea that killing off the very young, and the old and infirm, is under consideration as a means of population control? Even as a strawman, that’s as crackpot as they come.
Whatever motive you may imagine people have for mass murdering millions of unborn humans each year doesn't really matter. Abortion is very much a part of the agenda of those who do desire to lower the population. As for the growing trend to end the lives of the elderly, that does result in less people alive as well. There is a lot of room for abuse there as well. Example:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...uthanasia-dementia-doctors-column/2426908001/

The thread discusses the fact that many people desire to reduce the population. It is not pointless to be aware of that or discuss it. It is futile to pretend that man can save the planet or stop wars, or save himself. Yet that is what the climate change and population control movements are all about. The same with the save the various animal species type organizations etc.
 
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People that want to knock off a few hundred million from the population do not strike me as being concerned with others. Maybe that somehow resonates with you as love and concern for others.
Looking at the statements of some fear mongering population control freaks, one can hardly help but to be struck by their fanaticism and disdain for human kind and God.
"#16) Thomas Ferguson, former official in the U.S. State Department Office of Population Affairs….

“There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it….”

#17) Mikhail Gorbachev….

“We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”
22 Shocking Population Control Quotes From The Global Elite That Will Make You Want To Lose Your Lunch

I posted a link that showed lives were lost due to defective birth control gear. The examples of forced sterilization and 'whack every child but one' policy of China show that mass death is the result of this death religion. Then we have the mass child sacrifices pushed by foundations, the UN, and governments and education and the medical system. That is taking tens of millions of human lives every year.
Gorbachev really? This seems more anecdotal click bait. I checked your "22 Shocking Quotes" link (which was the only source you gave me) and I didn't see anything in there to support the OP, even if you include Gorbachev. try a source that is actually talking about killing lives to control the population rather than superimposing it over cherrypicked population crisis quotes. (btw the one-child-policy in china is over)
 
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Whatever motive you may imagine people have for mass murdering millions of unborn humans each year doesn't really matter. Abortion is very much a part of the agenda of those who do desire to lower the population. As for the growing trend to end the lives of the elderly, that does result in less people alive as well. There is a lot of room for abuse there as well. Example:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...uthanasia-dementia-doctors-column/2426908001/

The thread discusses the fact that many people desire to reduce the population. It is not pointless to be aware of that or discuss it. It is futile to pretend that man can save the planet or stop wars, or save himself. Yet that is what the climate change and population control movements are all about. The same with the save the various animal species type organizations etc.

You’re entitled to your opinion. I’m a retired physician with 40+ years of practicing internal and occupational medicine. I’m not an OB-GYN. I'm not trained to do abortions and have never performed one. Though I've had patients who’ve terminated pregnancies. About half were done for medical reasons. As I recall, most were married, already raising children, and working. Not a single one made the decision lightly. Whoever thinks women terminate pregnancies as casually as getting their nails done is an uninformed, misogynistic idiot. I’m also certain that the only population-related issue that may have been a motivating factor was a concern about overpopulation of their own families, and lacking the ability to provide adequately for the same. Which you may think is still ethically reprehensible. But it's not your decision.

Regarding physician aided dying: I served 10 years on my hospital's ethics committee. PAD (the term we used) was discussed, but no cases ever came up. I live in a conservative state, and I strongly doubt any law permitting the practice will be enacted in the foreseeable future. The states that allow it specify very explicit conditions which must be documented for it to be permissible. If I was still in practice, it's not something I'd care to do. But when it's done to relieve suffering, with the fully informed consent of a terminally ill patient who has decisional capacity, it's erroneous to link it with population control.
 
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