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And you think there won't be 3 more problems cropping up while they get a hold of this one?

As you know I opposed BREXIT. In part, I believed that people underestimated the seismic changes needed. What is happening here is that a society that was dependent on European truck drivers and immigrants to fill up truck driver seats no longer has any. They are just beginning to understand how dependent they were on these to keep everything running. So new solutions are required. Maybe they should pipe the petrol direct from the refineries and get rid of the trucks where possible or maybe they should train up people domestically or even start thinking in terms of robotized driverless trucks. Maybe the move to electric cars should be accelerated. Maybe a great many people should simply keep working from home and cut out the commuting altogether. Maybe they could use trains more to transport the fuel to localities cutting the man-hours for the trucks down. They could build petrol stations directly by the railway to remove any truck usage and pipe it directly from trains instead. In the long-run solutions will be found. But the pain of making this adjustment is very real.

What is interesting here to me is just how dependent a modern economy is on Big Oil infrastructure. We are on the edge of a revolution here. Electric vehicles remove the need for petrol stations as you can just plug in from home. Cycling to work, EBikes, Electric motorcycles could all bypass this need as could driverless electric cars in the coming decades.
 
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Now lorry drivers are needed ...
The polish who were kicked out months ago are laughing about the offer of a few months of employment, and the UK government is trying to activate people who technically have the papers to drive a lorry because they made their license 20 years ago, but who have never driven such a device and are now in far better employment.
 
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Now lorry drivers are needed ...

My wife says that her German driving license qualifies her to drive 12-ton lorries, this is probably the case with most Germans actually. Mine was converted from a British one and I am only allowed cars, small vans, and mopeds. And there is the nub of the problem ;-)
 
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My wife says that her German driving license qualifies her to drive 12-ton lorries, this is probably the case with most Germans actually. Mine was converted from a British one and I am only allowed cars, small vans, and mopeds. And there is the nub of the problem ;-)
Only those who made their driving license before 1999. After that, the licenses and teaching requirements were re-organised. Mostly because driving a lorry takes way different skills than driving a convertible.
 
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Scotland is a basket case.

Given the origin of the word 'basket case' I don't think it's an appropriate word for a professing Christian to use in conversation.

Ephesians 4:29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
 
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Given the origin of the word 'basket case' I don't think it's an appropriate word for a professing Christian to use in conversation.

Ephesians 4:29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Hahahahaha.
So what do you think 'basket case' means?
 
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Hahahahaha.
So what do you think 'basket case' means?

It's definition is in the public domain.

1 offensive a person who has had both legs and both arms amputated. 2 a person who is suffering from extreme nervous strain; a nervous wreck.

Not an expression a professing Christian should use IMO.
 
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It's definition is in the public domain.

1 offensive a person who has had both legs and both arms amputated. 2 a person who is suffering from extreme nervous strain; a nervous wreck.

Not an expression a professing Christian should use IMO.
You are deliberately trying to cause trouble as the common usage of 'basket case' has absolutely nothing to do with amputees.
Here's the normal definition.-
One that is in a completely hopeless or useless condition: a man who became a basket case after his divorce; a country that is an economic basket case.
Perfectly suitable for Scotland.
 
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You are deliberately trying to cause trouble as the common usage of 'basket case' has absolutely nothing to do with amputees.
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The Oxford English Dictionary says the colloquial term “basket case” originated in the United States shortly after World War I, and meant “a person, esp. a soldier, who has lost all four limbs.”

the gruesome origin of the term ‘basket case’ – word histories

Inappropriate term for a professing Christian to use IMO.
 
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The Oxford English Dictionary says the colloquial term “basket case” originated in the United States shortly after World War I, and meant “a person, esp. a soldier, who has lost all four limbs.”

the gruesome origin of the term ‘basket case’ – word histories

Inappropriate term for a professing Christian to use IMO.
Your opinion is of little consequence to me and I shall continue to use the words as I have always done, especially in references to basket cases like Scotland.
The English language is full of words that have long since migrated thousands of miles from their roots so go and troll someone else with your foolish pedantry.
 
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Your opinion is of little consequence to me and I shall continue to use the words as I have always done, especially in references to basket cases like Scotland.
The English language is full of words that have long since migrated thousands of miles from their roots so go and troll someone else with your foolish pedantry.

Scotland has a functioning government and economy and its people live in relative peace, prosperity, and under the rule of law. I would reserve the basket case judgment for various Muslim countries like Afghanistan is fast becoming or you undermine the quality of the insult.
 
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Scotland has a functioning government and economy and its people live in relative peace, prosperity, and under the rule of law.

I have lived in Scotland and I agree with you.
 
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Scotland has a functioning government and economy and its people live in relative peace, prosperity, and under the rule of law. I would reserve the basket case judgment for various Muslim countries like Afghanistan is fast becoming or you undermine the quality of the insult.
Scotland is financially supported by English taxation, and that's the only reason it appears to function. It's still a basket case.
 
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Scotland is financially supported by English taxation, and that's the only reason it appears to function. It's still a basket case.

For much of the last 40 years the UK Exchequer has benefitted from North Sea Oil Revenues. It is true that spending and deficits are higher in Scotland now. Also the current SNP government is guilty of a degree of mismanagement and wishful thinking. They are kidding themselves that they would be a viable independent nation without Oil (which is now dwindling). But over the last 4 decades Scotland has given as much as it has taken. I think we should take the acrimony out of this. We are better off together than apart and that the case of independence or "expulsion" is weak.

FactCheck: has Scotland ‘subsidised the rest of the UK’?

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While the reality seems to be more of that the farmers can’t get your average UK citizen to head over for some honest day on the field.

British workers reject fruit-picking jobs as Romanians flown in

Crops go to waste as UK farmers struggle to find workers

British farmers, forced to throw away tonnes of crops due to a shortage of labour, are calling for the UK government to bring back freedom of movement.

Some say they are having to recruit people from as far away as Kazakhstan to ensure no more food goes to waste.

It is the second year in a row that farmers have faced the problem of a lack of fruit and vegetable pickers.

“There’s been a mantra of trying to bring British people in, we tried that hard, absolute no goer," says Ottley, "it’s just not happening."

"We’ve been in engagement with Maidstone job centre for four years and we’ve had not a single person through it.”
 
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