Texas Abortion Law Survives Injunction

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

Desk trauma said:
12/15/1791, a date which should live in infamy for the ratification of that wretched god defying first amendment that over rides gods laws.

Nothing or no one will override our God. You will account for everything you have said and done some day. Eternal justice will occur. God is in control.

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

rambot said:
Great. So I imagine you are going to be caring for all these kids personally or paying others to do so?

However God leads.

Desk trauma · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
That's not the Constitution. Can you point to where specifically in the Federal governments limited and enumerated powers, outlined in the Constitution, where the People and the States have ceded authority to the Feds on how they can remedy murder.

Saying "it's in there" doesn't cut it.

I pointed to a summery of the ruling, if you actually want an answer to your question about what parts of the constitution it references it's contained there.

rambot · Oct 16, 2021

hedrick said:
But it’s not making it illegal. That was one point if the Texas law, to skip the issue of Rowe v Wade. Personally I think this Supreme Court cares about some rights than others, so it’s hard to predict where this is going to go. But it’s a terrible approach.

I'm not convinced the proponents of the law get it

rambot · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
I know someone who had a broken water pipe; and she didn't realize it until she got her water bill.

I know someone else who got on a toll road, and didn't realize it until it was too late.

I know someone who makes inane analogies that are so bad, they undermine their point

HARK! · Oct 16, 2021

rambot said:
Thanks for the clarity. Maybe you should go back to the original question asked which was whether the man could be sued. Your quote says the mother can't be sued but doesn't mention the father.

Don't be condescending unless you got back up.

If the father cut his child from the child's mother's womb; he certainly could be sued; but the criminal consequences would be a greater deterrent for such behavior in my opinion.

Desk trauma · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
Nothing or no one will override our God. You will account for everything you have said and done some day. Eternal justice will occur. God is in control.

Bit of a reach to hang blame for the first amendment on someone born almost two hundred years after its ratification.

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

Desk trauma said:
Bit of a reach to hang blame for the first amendment on someone born almost two hundred years after its ratification.

The ripples and consequences of decisions can last more than a life time. We are still paying the consequences for Adam's folly. We are still paying the consequences for Abraham trying to take a shortcut with God.

Desk trauma · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
The ripples and consequences of decisions can last more than a life time.

How does one go about setting off ripples prior to ones birth?

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

Desk trauma said:
How does one go about setting off ripples prior to ones birth?

Who said that? We experience previous generations compromises and rebellion. We pass on after as well.

Nithavela · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
Nothing or no one will override our God. You will account for everything you have said and done some day. Eternal justice will occur. God is in control.

This attitude always puzzled me. If christians really believe that God is in control, why do they try to exert control themselves? Shouldn't they be able to lay back, knowing that their deity has them covered?

Desk trauma · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
Who said that? We experience of previous generations compromises and rebellion. We pass on after as well.

An entire post with no gloating over others damnation, what a let down.

Anywho, enough of this rabbit hole.

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

Nithavela said:
This attitude always puzzled me. If christians really believe that God is in control, why do they try to exert control themselves? Shouldn't they be able to lay back, knowing that their deity has them covered?

God expects us to contend for the faith. He uses us, circumstances and our enemies to fulfill His will. In His infinite wisdom He has given man a free will to rebel, sin and be stupid. But man does not have a free will to come to Him. They must be drawn by God.

rambot · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
If the father cut his child from the child's mother's womb; he certainly could be sued; but the criminal consequences would be a greater deterrent for such behavior in my opinion.

He just needs to abet not perform. As I remember anyways

rambot · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
The law is not the test of what is right or wrong, the Word of God is. That is it! The constitution is trumped by the Word of God. Murder is wrong!

I think my point is a bit too nuanced because you keep missing it

rambot · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
That's not the Constitution. Can you point to where specifically in the Federal governments limited and enumerated powers, outlined in the Constitution, where the People and the States have ceded authority to the Feds on how they can remedy murder.

Saying "it's in there" doesn't cut it.

"Remedy?".

You have confused "remedy" with "capitalize off of".

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

rambot said:
I think my point is a bit too nuanced because you keep missing it

Not at all! Quite the opposite. Divine truth is by revelation. Only those who have eyes to see get it.

Pommer · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
God expects us to contend for the faith. He uses us, circumstances and our enemies to fulfill His will. In His infinite wisdom He has given man a free will to rebel, sin and be stupid. But man does not have a free will to come to Him. They must be drawn by God.

So “it’s rigged”?
Not a good “selling point”.

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

Pommer said:
So “it’s rigged”?
Not a good “selling point”.

Man will always gravitate toward self and rebellion. One day that will be exposed as utter folly!

SkyWriting · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
A federal appeals court has allowed a heartbeat-based Texas ban on abortion to remain in effect, rejecting the U.S. Department of Justice’s efforts to reinstate an injunction. Biden administration officials have pledged to ask the Supreme Court to reinstate an injunction.

The law allows for awards of at least $10,000 for successful lawsuits against those who perform or “aid and abet” illegal abortions. Women seeking abortions cannot be sued under the law, which first took effect Sept. 1.

Texas abortion law survives injunction effort; Supreme Court challenge next - Christianity News

Why is the Biden Administration attempting to thwart Texans' ability to defend themselves against illegal activity?

It's similar to outlawing McDonalds from providing unhealthy food to kids
and deputizing people to arrest the burger flippers and paper wrapping suppliers.

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