"Why should I let you into my heaven?"

Mclachlan said:

"Because Jesus."

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Amen! It's Lord, Lord, didn't YOU (John 6:40) and not Lord, Lord, didn't 'WE.' (Matthew 7:21-23)

MMXX said:

So what will?

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Hi grace .

MMXX said:

If you were to stand before God and he were to ask you, "Why should I let you into my heaven?", what would you say?

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”Only by and because of Your grace.”

I will not be asked that question, because once a person trust in The Messiah for God's free gift of Eternal Life they have as The Bible states.
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

So no need to ponder ideas that have no chance of happening.

Because I stand here

d taylor said:

I will not be asked that question, because once a person trust in The Messiah for God's free gift of Eternal Life they have as The Bible states.
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

So no need to ponder ideas that have no chance of happening.

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but you felt a need to post huh

d taylor said:

I will not be asked that question...

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Of course we don't expect Jesus to ask us that question at the judgment, but the answer to that question in this thread does reveal what people are trusting in for salvation.

Danthemailman said:

Of course we don't expect Jesus to ask us that question at the judgment, but the answer to that question in this thread does reveal what people are trusting in for salvation.

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That (what people are trusting) carries a wide variety of objects. That is the deception of satan, trust in yourselves and something you can do. That is what the great white throne is about, the unbelievers appeal to God that their works must have been good enough.

Neither the acts of love, or zeal, or repentance, or fear, or worship, or any other acts of obedience, are appointed as the means of our justification, because these actions carry in them an appearance of our doing something for God, our answering the demands of some law; and this would make our justification by a law of works: but faith is that act of soul whereby we renounce our own works as the ground of our acceptance; acknowledging our own unworthiness, and giving the entire honor to Divine grace. We are saved by grace, that God may have the glory of all.

Isaac Watts 1674-1748

The judgement is spoken and decided, which can you say you hope to be...




Ezekiel 34:16 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.

Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

Micah 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Jonah 2:8 They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.

MMXX said:

The question is designed to determine whether or not a Christian knows what will get them into heaven. For example per Matthew 7:22, saying "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?" would be the wrong answer.

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And what was the point Jesus was making in Matthew 7:22?

Was it Easy Believism?

I tend to think not because when we skip on down to verses 26-27, we read the exact opposite of that concept.

“And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.” (Matthew 7:26-27).

Sadly, most Christians today do not accept these two verses above by our Lord Jesus.

Now, if that portion of God’s Word by our Lord does not work for you, there is also these three more, as well.

“And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 25:30).

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” (Matthew 25:41-46).

“The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 13:41-42).


Side Note:

Granted, we do need to be saved first by God’s grace and make that our foundation. But most today fail to realize that Sanctification also plays a part of the salvation process, as well (After we are saved by His grace). Most today think that all you have to do is a special prayer and then live however you like or meet God half way or something. But God wants all of our lives. God wants us to pick up our cross and to deny ourselves and follow Him.

MMXX said:

If you were to stand before God and he were to ask you, "Why should I let you into my heaven?", what would you say?

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You're my father and I need to come home

MMXX said:

If you were to stand before God and he were to ask you, "Why should I let you into my heaven?", what would you say?

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It’s a hypothetical question (obviously). But our answer should reveal what we are trusting for salvation. And what is that? It should be in Jesus, and His Word of course.

As I would bow before our Lord, I would say to Jesus,

“Lord, I trust in you as my Lord and Savior.” “I believe that you died for my sins, you were buried, and risen three days later on my behalf for my salvation.” “Lord I also trusted in the good work you have done through my life so as to love you and others after being saved by your grace.” “Lord, I picked up my cross, and denied myself.” “I have lost my life for you.” “For you have basically said Lord that he that shall lose his life for your sake shall save it.” “May you get all the glory for any good done in my life.” “I love you Lord Jesus.” “Thank you for your love towards me, and my brothers and sisters who abided in you.” “May you do with me what you see as fair and good, Lord.”

Bible Highlighter said:

And what was the point Jesus was making in Matthew 7:22?

Was it Easy Believism?

I tend to think not because when we skip on down to verses 26-27, we read the exact opposite of that concept.

“And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.” (Matthew 7:26-27).

Sadly, most Christians today do not accept these two verses above by our Lord Jesus.

Now, if that portion of God’s Word by our Lord does not work for you, there is also these three more, as well.

“And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 25:30).

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” (Matthew 25:41-46).

“The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 13:41-42).


Side Note:

Granted, we do need to be saved first by God’s grace and make that our foundation. But most today fail to realize that Sanctification also plays a part of the salvation process, as well (After we are saved by His grace). Most today think that all you have to do is a special prayer and then live however you like or meet God half way or something. But God wants all of our lives. God wants us to pick up our cross and to deny ourselves and follow Him.

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So with this point of yours, do you regard salvation as a free gift that God gave to all of us who believe in the finished works of Christ at the cross?

MMXX said:

If you were to stand before God and he were to ask you, "Why should I let you into my heaven?", what would you say?

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You died for me. Forgive me now. You know I am afraid of hell. I beg you not to cast me off forever. Keep me near you.

Guojing said:

So with this point of yours, do you regard salvation as a free gift that God gave to all of us who believe in the finished works of Christ at the cross?

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Where do you see believing in the finished work of the cross as the sole means of salvation in the Bible?
Chapter and verse please.
Oh, and what do you make of the verses I mentioned in post #32?

As for salvation being a free gift:
Yes, that’s initial salvation. But like most free gifts in life, usually they require some form of responsibility in taking care of those gifts in order to continue to keep them properly. For example: a person can give Rick a free car as a gift, but if he runs red lights and drives drunk and hits predestrians, he is not going to have his gift for very long.

MMXX said:

The consensus is that it's about those who think they can get to heaven by what they do, rather than by what Christ did for them.

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Narrow is the way that leads unto life and few be there that finds it.
So it’s not the general wide gate path consensus that is going to win in the end.
It’s God’s Word that will win out in the end and I gave it to you and all to plainly see.

Bible Highlighter said:

As for salvation being a free gift:
Yes, that’s initial salvation. But like most free gifts in life, usually they require some form of responsibility in taking care of those gifts in order to continue to keep them properly. For example: a person can gift Rick a free car, but if he runs red lights and drives drunk and hits predestines, he is not going to have his gift for very long.

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Salvation is not like a car that can be wrecked in an accident.

It is given by God. Are you saying that when God gives someone a gift, and tell him its a free gift, he can take it back, if the person is not responsible?

If so, why would you still consider that a free gift? When you give gifts to someone, say your kids, if you try to take them back by claiming that they are irresponsible, do you really think its still a free gift?