Antarctica

BeyondET · Oct 15, 2021

Sunshinee777 said:
Have you seen this video
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY DRILLED INTO AN ICE WALL NEAR THE ANTARCTICA??

Looks interesting to me. I haven’t seen pictures about that ’ice’ before and im not sure if that is genuine picture but I need to know more. If you have any links to share about antarctica and icewall, please share. Thanks.

And if you are not interested please don’t waste your time posting tinfoilhat- shaming. Move on.

When glaciers move to the ocean it squeezes out the air bubbles creating blue ice

JacksBratt · Oct 15, 2021

BeyondET said:
When glaciers move to the ocean it squeezes out the air bubbles creating blue ice

I would think that this would make the ice heavier, more dense and it would not explain why it leaves no moisture when it melts.

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

BeyondET said:
When glaciers move to the ocean it squeezes out the air bubbles creating blue ice

It's got nothing to do with moving to the ocean, plus,
there is no way air moves (is squeezed out)
through solid ice.
I found where you must have read that bit
about being squeezed out.
Think tho- it's obviously not true.
Read what the USGS says.

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

JacksBratt said:
I would think that this would make the ice heavier, more dense and it would not explain why it leaves no moisture when it melts.

Water / ice does not compress.

Ive eaten glacier ice, right from the glacier.
Ice melts into water.

There is no frozen oxygen on planet earth except in a lab.

JacksBratt · Oct 15, 2021

Estrid said:
Water / ice does not compress.

Ice eaten glacier ice, right from the glacier.
Ice melts into water.

There is no frozen oxygen on planet earth except in a lab.

I didn't say that it compresses. BeyondET stated that the air gets squeezed out of it. How does that not make it more dense.

Ice cream is can be scooped because it is whipped and frozen with thousands of tiny air bubbles in it. It is less dense than if you let it melt.. and refreeze it when all that air is gone.

If you have a block of ice with air bubbles and "squeeze" the air out.. It would be more dense.

The video stated that the blue "sky ice" was lighter than normal ice and left no moisture when it was melted.

I have no way of proving this.. I'm just going by what the video stated.

I do agree with you when you say that air cannot move through solid ice.

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

JacksBratt said:
I didn't say that it compresses. BeyondET stated that the air gets squeezed out of it. How does that not make it more dense.

Ice cream is can be scooped because it is whipped and frozen with thousands of tiny air bubbles in it. It is less dense than if you let it melt.. and refreeze it when all that air is gone.

If you have a block of ice with air bubbles and "squeeze" the air out.. It would be more dense.

The video stated that the blue "sky ice" was lighter than normal ice and left no moisture when it was melted.

I have no way of proving this.. I'm just going by what the video stated.

I do agree with you when you say that air cannot move through solid ice.

That frozen oxygen thing is nonsense.
A little common sense should tell you it could not
exist. It would vaporize like water on a hot stove at
far below the temp of dry ice.

Yes, ice is marginally more dense if bubbles are
compressed. The air is still present of course.

JacksBratt · Oct 15, 2021

Estrid said:
That frozen oxygen thing is nonsense.
A little common sense should tell you it could not
exist. It would vaporize like water on a hot stove at
far below the temp of dry ice.

Yes, ice is marginally more dense if bubbles are
compressed. The air is still present of course.

OK, so you believe that the video is bunk. Fair enough.

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

JacksBratt said:
OK, so you believe that the video is bunk. Fair enough.

Uh no. It's total woo woo garbage.

BeyondET · Oct 15, 2021

Estrid said:
It's got nothing to do with moving to the ocean, plus,
there is no way air moves (is squeezed out)
through solid ice.
I found where you must have read that bit
about being squeezed out.
Think tho- it's obviously not true.
Read what the USGS says.

indeed what they USGS say about why it is blue in color, thus the lack of air bubbles allows light to penetrate the ice deeper.

Why is glacier ice blue? USGS

Glacier ice is blue because the red (long wavelengths) part of white light is absorbed by ice and the blue (short wavelengths) light is transmitted and scattered. The longer the path light travels in ice, the more blue it appears.

Air bubbles in the ice get squeezed and moved around because the ice is moving downwards they can carve out gorges in the earth.

https://asf.alaska.edu/information/glacier-power/glacier-power-why-is-glacier-ice-blue/

Glacier ice is highly pressurized. Bubbles in glacier ice get squeezed and pushed around. Sometimes you can see round bubbles that have been squeezed into long rods or flat plains. Coarse-bubbly ice looks whiter than most other ice because it is filled with small bubbles. This kind is usually found near ablation areas of a glacier. Coarse-clear ice is free of bubbles and is the bluest ice of all. This kind is usually found near the margins and terminus of a glacier.

BeyondET · Oct 15, 2021

JacksBratt said:
I would think that this would make the ice heavier, more dense and it would not explain why it leaves no moisture when it melts.

its heavy and pressurized.

JacksBratt · Oct 15, 2021

BeyondET said:
its heavy and pressurized.

I guess... but frozen water is ice... I know that I can hang wet clothes on my line here on cold sunny winter days and they will dry. Even well below freezing.
But, I don't think that ice will sublimate at temps above freezing.

BeyondET · Oct 15, 2021

JacksBratt said:
I have no way of proving this.. I'm just going by what the video stated.

I do agree with you when you say that air cannot move through solid ice.

the video made me laugh, at first they said you can not touch it with bare hands and then the next couple of clips there are people holding it with bare hands to funny.

BeyondET · Oct 15, 2021

JacksBratt said:
I guess... but frozen water is ice... I know that I can hang wet clothes on my line here on cold sunny winter days and they will dry. Even well below freezing.
But, I don't think that ice will sublimate at temps above freezing.

I'm not quite understanding what you mean?, but this was on one of the links i posted Alaska EDU.

It’s Not Just Frozen Water!
Sometimes the glacial ice appears almost turquoise. Its crystalline structure strongly scatters blue light. The ice on a glacier has been there for a really long time and has been compacted down so that its structure is pretty different from the ice you normally see. Glacial ice is a lot different from the frozen water you get out of the freezer.

renniks · Oct 15, 2021

Sunshinee777 said:
Have you seen this video
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY DRILLED INTO AN ICE WALL NEAR THE ANTARCTICA??

Looks interesting to me. I haven’t seen pictures about that ’ice’ before and im not sure if that is genuine picture but I need to know more. If you have any links to share about antarctica and icewall, please share. Thanks.

And if you are not interested please don’t waste your time posting tinfoilhat- shaming. Move on.

Hire a plane...fly to Antarctica. See for yourself that there's no edge of the earth.

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

JacksBratt said:
I guess... but frozen water is ice... I know that I can hang wet clothes on my line here on cold sunny winter days and they will dry. Even well below freezing.
But, I don't think that ice will sublimate at temps above freezing.

Why not? It's largely a matter of vapor pressure.

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

renniks said:
Hire a plane...fly to Antarctica. See for yourself that there's no edge of the earth.

Absolutely! Make the biggest geographical discovery of all time,
if it is there!

(I wonder why the edge is so small...)

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

BeyondET said:
its heavy and pressurized.

And when it isnt?

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

BeyondET said:
indeed what they USGS say about why it is blue in color, thus the lack of air bubbles allows light to penetrate the ice deeper.

Why is glacier ice blue? USGS

Glacier ice is blue because the red (long wavelengths) part of white light is absorbed by ice and the blue (short wavelengths) light is transmitted and scattered. The longer the path light travels in ice, the more blue it appears.

Air bubbles in the ice get squeezed and moved around because the ice is moving downwards they can carve out gorges in the earth.

https://asf.alaska.edu/information/glacier-power/glacier-power-why-is-glacier-ice-blue/

Glacier ice is highly pressurized. Bubbles in glacier ice get squeezed and pushed around. Sometimes you can see round bubbles that have been squeezed into long rods or flat plains. Coarse-bubbly ice looks whiter than most other ice because it is filled with small bubbles. This kind is usually found near ablation areas of a glacier. Coarse-clear ice is free of bubbles and is the bluest ice of all. This kind is usually found near the margins and terminus of a glacier.

That isn't what you said, so good you read so you will get it right next time.

BeyondET · Oct 15, 2021

Estrid said:
And when it isnt?

snow

BeyondET · Oct 15, 2021

Estrid said:
That isn't what you said, so good you read so you will get it right next time.

it is what i said, air bubbles get squeezed out and the ice becomes free of bubbles.

next time before you go on rant about bubbles not being squeezed you should look it up my friend.

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