Walmart To Employees, "White is not Right"

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Welcome to Walmart, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Walmart CRT Training Encourages Employees To Accept "White Isn't Fair"

Walmart has given more than 1,000 employees critical training on race theory which teaches that the United States is a “white supremacist system” and that white interns are guilty of “white supremacist thinking” and “Internalized racial superiority,” according to a new report.

Classy. I remember thinking something was missing last time I was in Walmart. Turns out it was racial bigotry.

The program suggests that whites are guilty of “white privilege” and “internalized racial superiority”, the belief that “his comforts, wealth, privileges and success have been won by merit and hard workrather than by the benefits of systemic racism. The formation claims that the The “culture of white supremacy” is defined by several qualities, including “individualism”, “objectivity”, “paternalism”, “defense”, “hoarding of power”, the “right to comfort” and the “cult of writing”.

Cult of writing? That's a new one.

The program suggests that the solution is for whites to work on “white anti-racist development” and accept their “guilt and shame” and that “whites are not right.” Ultimately, they should be working towards “collective action” where “white people can do good
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Training people to accept guilt because of their skin color. I don't see how this can possibly go wrong.

Personally, I think delusional extremists who believe in vast power hoarding conspiracies belong in the shady corners of the internet where their nonsense is limited by voluntary participation.

On the upside, this seems like the sort of thing that qualifies as racial discrimination and Walmart has deep pockets.

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I think it's pretty hilarious that some weird conspiracy theory website can piece together their own ideas and words with 2-3 word out-of-context "quotes" from a document which they are unable to produce yet can somehow quote from and then people who want to believe what they're selling throw it out there as ultimate and undeniable proof of some kind of nefarious conspiracy against....white people. Just typing all of this makes me LOL!!!!! Thanks for the Friday afternoon laugh!!!
 
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You understand that Walmart isn't giving racial history lessons, right?

The left wing media had tried to paint parental opposition to CRT as something that had to do with "accurate portrayals of history"....but that was just misinformation.

CRT is a racial worldview that assumes the US is a racist nation, white people are immoral racist oppressors, and non-white people are moral and oppressed by whites and US society through "systems" and "structures" and "biases".

It pretends to be a "analytical framework" or "lens" for analyzing racism in the US....but that's not really true, and I'm pretty sure I can prove it.

Somehow, I don't think so. I do think there is a systemic disadvantage for some minority groups. That doesn't mean I think all white people in America are racists or that America is a racist nation. It does mean that I think disadvantage is baked into the system, probably for a number of reasons, which is what something like the study of systemic problems would be needed to figure out.

But, no, it's a "worldview that assumes the US is a racist nation" and "white people are immoral racist oppressors," because Walmart did a thing. These corporations have way too much leverage is opinion making, and the non-academic right eats it up.
 
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Somehow, I don't think so. I do think there is a systemic disadvantage for some minority groups. That doesn't mean I think all white people in America are racists or that America is a racist nation. It does mean that I think disadvantage is baked into the system, probably for a number of reasons, which is what something like the study of systemic problems would be needed to figure out.

But, no, it's a "worldview that assumes the US is a racist nation" and "white people are immoral racist oppressors," because Walmart did a thing. These corporations have way too much leverage is opinion making, and the non-academic right eats it up.

An example of something built into a system?
 
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Go have a look at racial disparity among inmates in our prison system -- noting that we have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

No crime, no time.

Asians don't have some "systemic advantage".
We just don't commpit many crimes in the USA.

Do you have an example of a disadvantage built into
" the system"?

What is a "system"?
 
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No crime, no time.

Asians don't have some "systemic advantage".
We just don't commpit many crimes in the USA.

Do you have an example of a disadvantage built into
" the system"?

What is a "system"?

You're permitted to suffer the consequences of willful ignorance.
 
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I felt then and do now that my cultural/ racial background put me
at a considerable advantage.

That is true, and it is perhaps the critical distinction between Asians and others who have immigrated to the US and those who are American descendants of slaves.
 
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That is true, and it is perhaps the critical distinction between Asians and others who have immigrated to the US and those who are American descendants of slaves.

There are huge differences in the achievement of immigrant groups.

Native Americans are not descendants of slaves but they seem very
disadvantaged
 
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Insulting me is a shabby way to hide your inability to
illustrate your claim with anything real.

I'm not going to do your homework for you.

I said "I think" there are systemic disadvantages, a claim which is very much true given that I am not lying. It derives from experience. My point, had you cared to follow, is that that in and of itself does not mean I think the things that were claimed in the post I was responding to. It's a contradiction -- I can see an academic study like CRT (though not necessarily CRT) as beneficial, without taking the pejorative stance that has been claimed in this thread.
 
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I'm not going to do your homework for you.

I said "I think" there are systemic disadvantages, a claim which is very much true given that I am not lying. It derives from experience. My point, had you cared to follow, is that that in and of itself does not mean I think the things that were claimed in the post I was responding to. It's a contradiction -- I can see an academic study like CRT (though not necessarily) as beneficial, without taking the pejorative stance that has been claimed in this thread.

In fewer words, you have no known basis for the "systemic" claim.

I was byw just asking not seeking a dispute.
 
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In fewer words, you have no known basis for the "systemic" claim.

I was byw just asking not seeking a dispute.

I was not making a claim about systemic problems. I was making a claim about myself, in contradiction to the claim that CRT "is a racial worldview that assumes the US is a racist nation ..."

By saying "I think ..." I'm referring to my view. And it is true. I think there are disadvantages baked into the system, but I do not think that means all white Americans are racist, or that America is an inherently racist nation (though some are). See how that contradicts the original claim?

In my view, a systemic problem is not like "there's a lot of racists here". Systemic is "of or related to a system", a systemic problem being a problem that maybe nobody had intended to exist.
 
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This has nothing to do with the color of the skin but more to do with the Lord's judgement.

It's simple cause and effect. Mishandling of the Lord's resources throughout time. It just happens that Whites are over-represented in that area. Just more Whites played the role of the "Unfaithful Servant". It could have been anyone.

And the Lord will punish the unfaithful servant regardless of the skin color.
All races and nations are to some extent racist. We cannot duck our responsibility by simply saying it is the Lord's judgement. This world is our test bed, this "G-d's Kingdom Now" for entry worthiness to the Heavenly realm. We are all G-d's servants and or hands and feet and hearts are at his service. If we do not accept that all mankind is in his realm now here on earth, ie. equal in every way in G-d's eyes then we need to humbly accept that we need correction and critical Race theory is a necessary reorientation in a balance of equality which we should in love, G-d given for us to share without distinction. AS far as unfaithful servants there is no lack in any race or nation. So be humble and do the training if it comes your way.
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I was not making a claim about systemic problems. I was making a claim about myself, in contradiction to the claim that CRT "is a racial worldview that assumes the US is a racist nation ..."

By saying "I think ..." I'm referring to my view. And it is true. I think there are disadvantages baked into the system, but I do not think that means all white Americans are racist, or that America is an inherently racist nation (though some are). See how that contradicts the original claim?

In my view, a systemic problem is not like "there's a lot of racists here". Systemic is "of or related to a system", a systemic problem being a problem that maybe nobody had intended to exist.

How about an example of systemic racism?
 
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How about an example of systemic racism?

I didn't make a claim about systemic racism.

But if I designed a system for cameras to automatically identify people jaywalking in a city, so that police could serve them with a ticket later, it would be a systemic race-related problem if it primarily caught people of a minority, who happen to own less cars per capita. It would be a racism problem if the law were intended to burden that demographic with intent to drive them out. Both cases are systemic. Both concern a problem faced by minorities. Only one is racist, and racism does happen.
 
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I didn't make a claim about systemic racism.

But if I designed a system for cameras to automatically identify people jaywalking in a city, so that police could serve them with a ticket later, it would be a systemic race-related problem if it primarily caught people of a minority, who happen to own less cars per capita. It would be a racism problem if the law were intended to burden that demographic with intent to drive them out. Both cases are systemic. Both concern a problem faced by minorities. Only one is racist, and racism does happen.

I was hoping for an actual example.

Is it racist to mostly catch Hispanics at the US border with Mexico?

Is intent a necessary component of " systemic" racism?

Is affirmative action systemic racism?
 
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I was hoping for an actual example.

Is it racist to mostly catch Hispanics at the US border with Mexico?

Is intent a necessary component of " systemic" racism?

Is affirmative action systemic racism?

Is this an inquisition?
 
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