Walmart To Employees, "White is not Right"

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

SilverBear said:
CHristopher Rufo has a long history of creating anti CRT propaganda like the time he claimed that the federal government had bankrolled CRT mandatory training for “white employees at the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve" that was in reality “obscene federal ‘diversity training’” Rufo claimed that: "the training begins with the premise that “virtually all white people contribute to racism” and hold narratives that “don’t support the dismantling of racist institutions.” Therefore, the trainers argue, white federal employees must “struggle to own their racism” and “invest in race-based growth.”" Actual journalists noted that Rufo wouldn't cite any of the "mountain of documentation" he had to back up his claims. Later when he did slip and identify the documents as the transcripts of a webinar “Beyond Words: Race, Work, and Allyship amid the George Floyd Tragedy,” (which is about creating an inclusive work environment and not CRT) and a pamphlet “Navigation Guide for Difficult Conversations about Race in Troubling Times.” the pamphlet talks about the importance of sincere dialogue on racial issues and providing general advice on holding successful group discussions on touchy topics.

My thoughts on this It's race bating propaganda at its worst and I have trouble understanding how anyone would believe that wal-mart or any cooperation is engaging in what Rufo claims.

This is my first encounter with said person.

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

KeithAC said:
Trump had once said, they aren't after me, they are after you, that he was just in the way. But that's not true, they aren't after us, they are after every thing and whites are just in the way because they love their freedom too much.
But it doesn't matter, in the end, every knee bends and every tongue confesses Jesus as lord. In the mean time, let every man be a liar but God be true, preaching the Gospel is still job one.

So nothing matters?

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

TheWhat? said:
If you're of a minority race in America, and you are at a disadvantage for it, nobody should have the right to take away the freedom to study why that would be the case.

I don't know if that's correct, but if it is, I'd say it has a lot in common with wage slavery, debt slavery, and now another kind of racially oriented slavery. Leave it to Walmart to show us why taking the study of racial disparities and turning it around can be a good thing, for Walmart.

As a member of a minority group in America I never felt
the least disadvantaged by that.
Not all my experiences were good, including some encounters with
racists, but, disadvantage?
Hardly.
I felt then and do now that my cultural/ racial background put me
at a considerable advantage.

ETA
Nobody is offering to " take away right to study"

TheWhat? · Oct 15, 2021

Estrid said:
As a member of a minority group in America I never felt
the least disadvantaged by that.
Not all my experiences were good, including some encounters with
racists, but, disadvantage?
Hardly.
I felt then and do now that my cultural/ racial background put me
at a considerable advantage.

ETA
Nobody is offering to " take away right to study"

Are you in Hong Kong or in America, and how long?

I don't know much about you but I recall bumping into a post from you I think saying you wanted to move to Canada. I noticed that because I have been thinking about the same thing. If you know much about Canada, then you should know about the difference between multiculturalism and American monoculturalism. They teach this in their public schools.

I've been in America all my life and I've seen how African Americans, especially, are at a real disadvantage. We, monoculturalists, justify the destruction of their community centers even, taking away from them the social means they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, so to speak. We afford them no autonomy.

And historically, it has been violent. Entire towns have been destroyed. Sometimes many were massacred. There is a real problem in America, and that deserves study at the very least.

But now how that is going to be turned around in a fine organization like Walmart is interesting to say the least.

GOD Shines Forth! · Oct 15, 2021

TheWhat? said:
I've been in America all my life and I've seen how African Americans, especially, are at a real disadvantage. We, monoculturalists, justify the destruction of their community centers even, taking away from them the social means they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, so to speak. We afford them no autonomy.

Having worked at FedEx for decades (now retired), among a sea of people who just happened to be black, none of that rings true in my experience. All the modern nonsense about race had no place there. We were all too busy working our tails off and making $$$ to get caught up in that.

essentialsaltes · Oct 15, 2021

Ana the Ist said:
The program suggests that whites are guilty of “white privilege”

Thoughts?

If the report is accurate, Walmart should get better training materials, because that's not how I understand the meaning of white privilege.

If the report is a hit piece with isolated and misleading quotes, then the author should be ashamed of himself, as should the conservative think tank that published it.

A_Thinker · Oct 15, 2021

GOD Shines Forth! said:
Having worked at FedEx for decades (now retired), among a sea of people who just happened to be black, none of that rings true in my experience. All the modern nonsense about race had no place there. We were all too busy working our tails off and making $$$ to get caught up in that.

So ... no racial disadvantage at FedEx. Wonderful ...

TheWhat? · Oct 15, 2021

GOD Shines Forth! said:
Having worked at FedEx for decades (now retired), among a sea of people who just happened to be black, none of that rings true in my experience. All the modern nonsense about race had no place there. We were all too busy working our tails off and making $$$ to get caught up in that.

You should have been working with habitat for humanity then. The effects of apartheid were still visible when I did.

I don't really care about what goes on inside of businesses -- I'm talking about physical changes to communities, closure of businesses, e.g. intentional gentrification via urban planning. And, sticking your head in the sand isn't going to erase history.

GOD Shines Forth! · Oct 15, 2021

TheWhat? said:
You should have been working with habitat for humanity then. The effects of apartheid were still visible when I did.

I don't really care about what goes on inside of businesses -- I'm talking about physical changes to communities, closure of businesses, e.g. gentrification. And, sticking your head in your sand isn't going to erase history.

Everybody has a story to tell. I know what I know and enjoy my relationship with many other humans who just happen to be black. They refuse to have their experience re-framed to fit some narrative, why on earth would I?

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

TheWhat? said:
Are you in Hong Kong or in America, and how long?

I don't know much about you but I recall bumping into a post from you I think saying you wanted to move to Canada. I noticed that because I have been thinking about the same thing. If you know much about Canada, then you should know about the difference between multiculturalism and American monoculturalism. They teach this in their public schools.

I've been in America all my life and I've seen how African Americans, especially, are at a real disadvantage. We, monoculturalists, justify the destruction of their community centers even, taking away from them the social means they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, so to speak. We afford them no autonomy.

And historically, it has been violent. Entire towns have been destroyed. Sometimes many were massacred. There is a real problem in America, and that deserves study at the very least.

But now how that is going to be turned around in a fine organization like Walmart is interesting to say the least.

Not sure what is your question. I'm native of HK, where
British colonialism is more a thing than American race relations.

Of course I know about racial issues in the USA. It just did not affect me
as a student there. If anything it worked to my advantage.

I encountered some "white saviour industrial
complex" which is kind of weird.
American feminism likewise does nothing for me.

Take into account that I inherited a lot of
privilege. Like the option to have lived in the
US for uni, move to Canada as it suits me.

Canada escaped the vice of black slavery and has a small population
of African descent. Their treatment of the native population was/ has
been comparable.

If wally world can make a contribution to
a more equitable nation, that's good.

The disadvantaged have plenty of responsibility
to deal with, things nobody can give them.
An awful lot of it is now self inflicted, telling
rhemselves the wrong stories.

I think all you Americans would do well
to get past your navel gazing and get serious.

There are huge and terribly dangerous challenges
being ignored amid "issues" about pronouns and
other such "pc" matters.

TheWhat? · Oct 15, 2021

GOD Shines Forth! said:
Everybody has a story to tell. I know what I know and enjoy my relationship with many other humans who just happen to be black. They refuse to have their experience re-framed to fit some narrative, why on earth would I?

So if I were to draw attention to Tulsa's race massacre, this is "reframing"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

Look, I'm not the one saying that employees in walmart need to be subjected to this stuff. In all likelihood they are far removed from it. Walmart is apparently the culprit, if it's happening at all.

anna ~ grace · Oct 15, 2021

I can verify this. I left just before they began rolling this out for management. It’s described as “how to be an inclusive leader” and “checking our unconscious bias” training, but I bet it was actually this.

iluvatar5150 · Oct 15, 2021

anna ~ grace said:
I can verify this. I left just before they began rolling this out for management. It’s described as “how to be an inclusive leader” and “checking our unconscious bias” training, but I bet it was actually this.

If you didn't see the training material, how can you verify it?

BNR32FAN · Oct 15, 2021

A_Thinker said:
I would also. Somehow, I doubt that the article fairly represents Walmart's actions ...

Are you suggesting that the media is representing this situation in a false manner? When did they start doing that? :scratch:

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

anna ~ grace said:
I can verify this. I left just before they began rolling this out for management. It’s described as “how to be an inclusive leader” and “checking our unconscious bias” training, but I bet it was actually this.

Verify what you bet. Hmm

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

iluvatar5150 said:
If you didn't see the training material, how can you verify it?

"White is not right" was put in quotation marks.

Is this a direct quote or a wink and nod, or sarcasm or what,
we wonder. Verification needed.

anna ~ grace · Oct 15, 2021

iluvatar5150 said:
If you didn't see the training material, how can you verify it?

What I can verify is that this was being rolled out; the topics included race, “unconscious bias”, “equity”, and “checking ourselves for bias”.

But we already had training videos covering being kind and gracious, inclusive, respectful and friendly to everyone, no matter what they looked like. We already had videos which covered the harm caused by and unacceptability of racial slurs, sexual harassment, bullying, and everything else. Those were good videos, and covered important topics.

I left just as these new training classes and videos were being rolled out. I’m betting it covered way more than “be kind to people”.

GOD Shines Forth! · Oct 15, 2021

A_Thinker said:
So ... no racial disadvantage at FedEx. Wonderful ...

It was and is. Great company that people stay at for decades. I was a "newb" at 22 years. So many 35-40 year employees at my huge station.

Estrid · Oct 15, 2021

anna ~ grace said:
What I can verify is that this was being rolled out; the topics included race, “unconscious bias”, “equity”, and “checking ourselves for bias”.

But we already had training videos covering being kind and gracious, inclusive, respectful and friendly to everyone, no matter what they looked like. We already had videos which covered the harm caused by and unacceptability of racial slurs, sexual harassment, bullying, and everything else. Those were good videos, and covered important topics.

I left just as these new training classes and videos were being rolled out. I’m betting it covered way more than “be kind to people”.

We'd already been convinced that you've verified that it's your opinion.

iluvatar5150 · Oct 15, 2021

Estrid said:
"White is not right" was put in quotation marks.

Is this a direct quote or a wink and nod, or sarcasm or what,
we wonder. Verification needed.

Actually, it didn't say "white is not right." It said "whites are not right," which is kind of an interesting clue and a good example of how the quotes in the OP's article aren't (or at least can't be trusted to be) direct quotes.

The only source the OP's article mentions is "Town newspaper‘s Christopher Rufo" and some documents that were leaked to him. I don't know what "Town newspaper" is, but a quick google search of that phrase turns up the bio of this guy at City Journal, whose most recent article seems to be the one in question: Walmart's Critical Race Theory Training Program | City Journal

Lo and behold, the OP's article appears to be nothing more than a low-quality rewrite of that. But the Rufo piece doesn't include the phrase "whites are not right." Amusingly, in misquoting the misquote, you (and the OP in his thread title) inadvertently corrected GWN's error and accurately quoted the Rufo piece.

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