Amish Survived COVID Better Than Most by Never Locking Down, Shuttering Churches

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That’s what we ALL get to do. Unbelief produces the despairing attitude, the inordinate fear of death and the ingratitude towards God that make it such a slog for some.
Sure, but if you have a choice not to get sick, it is stupid not to choose health. I had a week in hospital with pancreatitis. If I'd known it was coming and there was a vaccine, I most certainly would have had the jab. Physically, it was the worst week of my life.
I had the opportunity to see what the medical staff went through to stay protected. Just the N95 mask is bad enough. I don't know how they could work with one on. I did have one on briefly. It's awful.

You can be fatalistic if you wish. Not everyone will say que cera cera. Christians that I know do not fear death. I've faced death twice in the last two years. I'd be happy to go except that I have responsibilities here and now.
 
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You can be fatalistic if you wish. Not everyone will say que cera cera. Christians that I know do not fear death. I've faced death twice in the last two years. I'd be happy to go except that I have responsibilities here and now.

I'm not "fatalistic", else why would I contend on these matters? I have responsibilities, too.

For example, my friend who has Parkinson's. I've watched it take him from an active runner to a slow crawl. When I visit I do things for him he would have never asked me to do before...drive him around, shave him, wash clothes and bed linens, help him dress, etc. EVERYTHING takes him forever to do comparatively. But he was still holding his own in the apartment.

I didn't hear from him long enough to cause concern (no answer to calls or texts), so I drove to his town and knocked on his door. No answer. Went to apartment office and asked them to do a wellness check. Young manager went in and came running out full speed back to office. Ambulance appeared very shortly.

He had fallen and was unable to get back up. He was on the ground for days and was rushed to hospital in bad shape (wounds from carpet, dehydration, possible sepsis). Praise God he made it through that and is in a rehab for now. I have visited him in both places and followed every protocol required. Masks, gowns, gloves. I never break hospital rules (which do not require vaccination, FYI). My friend asked me to take off the N95 the other day and I said No.

Today at Starbuck's I wore my mask. I am not an uncaring rebel (as vaccine-hesitants are often portrayed). I am not fatalistic in practice, but I can come across that way in dialogue.
 
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God bless the Amish, as they remind us of an older way, a more family-centered way of dealing with this Covid pandemic.

I particularly liked this:

"It’s a worse thing to quit working than dying," he said, defending the community’s approach to COVID-19. “But to shut down and say that we can’t go to church, we can’t get together with family, we can’t see our old people in the hospital, we got to quit working … it’s going completely against everything that we believe.”

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https://www.faithwire.com/2021/10/1...st-by-never-locking-down-shuttering-churches/

And this embedded story, courtesy of the lovely Sharyl Attkisson:

It may be relevant that 'the lovely' Sharyl Attkinson apparently has a recent record of dubious reporting about vaccines...

Interesting too that the article suggests that the community reached herd immunity when 90%(!) of the families had at least one infected member. Not sure that's something to celebrate...

And I suspect herd immunity would take 85-90% of the population to have been infected.
 
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the vaccine may be dangerous[L]



More than 6.62 billion doses have been administered across 184 countries, according to data collected by Bloomberg. The latest rate was roughly 25.8 million doses a day.

In the U.S., 405 million doses have been given so far. In the last week, an average of 835,492 doses per day were administered.

millions & millions of doses safely given
how do you argue against millions?
 
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God bless the Amish, as they remind us of an older way, a more family-centered way of dealing with this Covid pandemic.

I particularly liked this:

"It’s a worse thing to quit working than dying," he said, defending the community’s approach to COVID-19. “But to shut down and say that we can’t go to church, we can’t get together with family, we can’t see our old people in the hospital, we got to quit working … it’s going completely against everything that we believe.”

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https://www.faithwire.com/2021/10/1...st-by-never-locking-down-shuttering-churches/

And this embedded story, courtesy of the lovely Sharyl Attkisson:


Yeah they live a life secluded from modern society.
 
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I'm not "fatalistic", else why would I contend on these matters? I have responsibilities, too.

For example, my friend who has Parkinson's. I've watched it take him from an active runner to a slow crawl. When I visit I do things for him he would have never asked me to do before...drive him around, shave him, wash clothes and bed linens, help him dress, etc. EVERYTHING takes him forever to do comparatively. But he was still holding his own in the apartment.

I didn't hear from him long enough to cause concern (no answer to calls or texts), so I drove to his town and knocked on his door. No answer. Went to apartment office and asked them to do a wellness check. Young manager went in and came running out full speed back to office. Ambulance appeared very shortly.

He had fallen and was unable to get back up. He was on the ground for days and was rushed to hospital in bad shape (wounds from carpet, dehydration, possible sepsis). Praise God he made it through that and is in a rehab for now. I have visited him in both places and followed every protocol required. Masks, gowns, gloves. I never break hospital rules (which do not require vaccination, FYI). My friend asked me to take off the N95 the other day and I said No.

Today at Starbuck's I wore my mask. I am not an uncaring rebel (as vaccine-hesitants are often portrayed). I am not fatalistic in practice, but I can come across that way in dialogue.
Thanks for clearing that up.
 
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It may be relevant that 'the lovely' Sharyl Attkinson apparently has a recent record of dubious reporting about vaccines...

Interesting too that the article suggests that the community reached herd immunity when 90%(!) of the families had at least one infected member. Not sure that's something to celebrate...

And I suspect herd immunity would take 85-90% of the population to have been infected.
We often forget that being infected with Covid 19 is not necessarily synonymous with getting seriously ill, or even dying. We have been trained by the media to feel alarm at the mention of a “case”.

But contracting this virus does not automatically equal serious illness, much less death. Most people survive. Most seriously ill people do recover. Some do not. The Amish were willing to take their chances, let the virus spread, and see what happened. They’re ok with dying. They’re ok with taking care of their sick relatives at home. It doesn’t look as though their society collapsed.
 
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I'm not "fatalistic", else why would I contend on these matters? I have responsibilities, too.

For example, my friend who has Parkinson's. I've watched it take him from an active runner to a slow crawl. When I visit I do things for him he would have never asked me to do before...drive him around, shave him, wash clothes and bed linens, help him dress, etc. EVERYTHING takes him forever to do comparatively. But he was still holding his own in the apartment.

I didn't hear from him long enough to cause concern (no answer to calls or texts), so I drove to his town and knocked on his door. No answer. Went to apartment office and asked them to do a wellness check. Young manager went in and came running out full speed back to office. Ambulance appeared very shortly.

He had fallen and was unable to get back up. He was on the ground for days and was rushed to hospital in bad shape (wounds from carpet, dehydration, possible sepsis). Praise God he made it through that and is in a rehab for now. I have visited him in both places and followed every protocol required. Masks, gowns, gloves. I never break hospital rules (which do not require vaccination, FYI). My friend asked me to take off the N95 the other day and I said No.

Today at Starbuck's I wore my mask. I am not an uncaring rebel (as vaccine-hesitants are often portrayed). I am not fatalistic in practice, but I can come across that way in dialogue.
Excellent post. Thank you. We are being tricked into seeing each other as black-or-white parodies of certain positions by the media. That is generally not true.

Thank you for giving real-life examples of nuance, opinions, and behaviors which don’t fit into a media caricature of someone who is not interested in the vaccine.
 
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Excellent post. Thank you. We are being tricked into seeing each other as black-or-white parodies of certain positions by the media. That is generally not true.

Thank you for giving real-life examples of nuance, opinions, and behaviors which don’t fit into a media caricature of someone who is not interested in the vaccine.

Thank you:pray: This helps me consider those I disagree with, too, that they are not caricatures...but loved by God.
 
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