Are there many on this forum who have received the Holy Spirit; with the bible evidence of tongues ?

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would be interested to know the doctrines ;as most here seem to be just religious !?

Hello John,

I have received what is referred to as the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, have spoken in tongues. It initially happened at a youth meeting in England. Second experience at a Morris Cerullo meeting in Glasgow, when I was about to go through a hard time.

I wouldn't label anyone as 'just religious' though. This sounds rather negative. There aren't two tiers of believers! God Bless :)
 
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would be interested to know the doctrines ;as most here seem to be just religious !?

I think I know what you mean by religious …and I think I know what Lizmore is stating.

And yes …spoke in tongues even before reading any of the Bible. Heck I didn’t even know what it was and never had heard it done. I read it in a book that said you could do it …and I did.

I continue to this day to operate the manifestation of tongues and the other 8 manifestations of the spirit.
 
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PS.. yes I have received the Holy Spirit with the bible evidence of speaking in tongues;(after full immersion baptism ) and many healings etc immediately followed. Doctrine basics = acts 2v38 repent (baby's cant ! man made rubbish ) be baptized (Greek , dip immerse etc symbol of burial ) ,Gods response to your token obedience = gives you the Holy Spirit and the signs as in mark 16v16+ .
This is a commandment, but most here don't seem interested in what Jesus said only a religious show ??
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Joh 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
so according to the word, how to pray in the spirit....

1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

1Co 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

in the church ( people not a building ! Ac 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,..) only max three and corresponding interpretation and prophecy,......
 
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Lismore..?? tiers of believers ?? Jesus said...

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

etc ??

if you claim to be a believer then you have these or your in word only !?

men make excuses why they dont .. by faith or grace or confess ( agree with,say same as etc) which they DONT..! (its a package deal ALL of)

Rom 8v9... Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his
 
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There are two words used in conjunction for receiving the holy spirit.

Dechomi – is receiving from God spiritually within oneself ……its a subjective reception.

Lambano - is to receive into manifestation (evidence)…after having received it spiritually. This objective reception to the end of manifestation.
 
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You guys do realize that "tongues" does not refer to unintelligible babbling but actual languages that people haven't been taught to speak before right?
Speaking in tongues would be you start speaking Mandarin despite never having learned the language.
Not gibberish.

1 Corinthians 13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
 
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if you claim to be a believer then you have these or your in word only !?

Hello Saint John. I don't believe someone has to speak in tongues to be saved. Nor do I believe that those who have spoken in tongues should look down on those who haven't. God Bless You :)
 
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I don't speak in tongues but I have received the baptism of the Holy Spirit
Then you have the ability to pray in tongues and you will when you are prepared to use your faith. Is is one of the tools of the Holy Spirit available to you when you are ready to use it.
 
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You guys do realize that "tongues" does not refer to unintelligible babbling but actual languages that people haven't been taught to speak before right?
Speaking in tongues would be you start speaking Mandarin despite never having learned the language.
Not gibberish.

1 Corinthians 13
Off topic and inappropriate for this thread. It is righteousness to respect the OP and to show love to the others who have the indwelling Spirit and use the gift of tongues in a sacred and holy manner.
 
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I agree with you. It is an expressive, articulate language spoken to God, who understands it and builds us up as a result. It is similar to when God spoke from heaven at the baptism of Jesus. Those who were in touch with God heard God say, "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased." The ignorant ones who did not have any sensitivity to what God was saying heard only something that sounded like thunder.

It is the same with those who have a religious spirit instead of the Holy Spirit. When they hear tongues being spoken it is to them just babbling. But for those who are filled with the Spirit, they hear wonderful languages that give them joy as they hear those who love God praising Him from their hearts as they praise Him in the Spirit.
 
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Off topic and inappropriate for this thread.
It is on topic and establishes something that must be considered, that any claim to speak in tongues should abide by the biblical standard.
 
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It is on topic and establishes something that must be considered, that any claim to speak in tongues should abide by the biblical standard.
It is off topic because the OP did not intend for the thread to be a debate about whether modern use of tongues is true or false. Therefore, I will not debate the issue with you here.
 
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Lismore..?? tiers of believers ?? Jesus said...

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

etc ??

if you claim to be a believer then you have these or your in word only !?

men make excuses why they dont .. by faith or grace or confess ( agree with,say same as etc) which they DONT..! (its a package deal ALL of)

Rom 8v9... Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his

Mark 16:17–18 is not a litmus test given to judge other believers by.

Certainly those signs can and do follow believers, but this does not mean all believers will do this all the time.
The verses here are not just about tongues while ignoring the rest, the entire verse indeed the entire chapter needs to be read as each part is of equal importance.
Mark 16:17-18 covers 5 signs.
cast out demons
speak with new tongues
pick up serpents
they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them
they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.

That is followed with
“And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them, and confirmed the word by the signs that followed,” (Mark 16:20)
The point to having the signs were and is to confirm the gospel as you preach, not to test each individual believer or as a test of your own faith. It isn't a matter of "Today I spoke in tongues so I am a true believer" That is not what they are for.

Even believers in the early church did not exhibit each and every sign either.
When the Bible says that the believers brought the sick to the apostles to receive healing did not mean the believers who did this were not true believers because they could not lay hands on the sick and have them recover. They were true believers but God had simply not gifted them with healing even though it is one of the signs mentioned there.


God gives as he wills and as needed for the common good.
1 Cor. 12:7-11,28-31, “But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 8 For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10 and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills…28 And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. 29 All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they? 30 All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they? 31 But earnestly desire the greater gifts.


If your gift is tongues then praise God for it and use it for the common good, but do not uphold it over others as a test of their faith.
 
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Lismore..?? tiers of believers ?? Jesus said...

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

etc ??

if you claim to be a believer then you have these or your in word only !?

men make excuses why they dont .. by faith or grace or confess ( agree with,say same as etc) which they DONT..! (its a package deal ALL of)

Rom 8v9... Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his
It is important not to confuse Justification with Sanctification.
The Scripture says that we are saved by God's grace through faith in Christ alone. It is God's gift to us, not through works. Therefore, a person is saved through total trust in the finished work of Christ on the cross.

But we carry on to growth in sanctification, and being filled with the Holy Spirit, receiving tongues, etc., is part of our growth in grace and in the knowledge of God. I believe that receiving the gift of tongues to enhance our prayer life is an integral component in our developing sanctification.

So, if tongues is viewed as being essential, then it is essential for our sanctification, and not for our Justification.
 
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