Ok. So, what are the specific things that the Holy Spirit teaches us to which Paul is referring?
There is a guiding spiritual authority over the bible. The gospel is the manifested life of the Christian. We have been moved from the fleshly carnal man because the fleshly carnal man has been crucified with Christ on the cross, Galatians 2:20. This work was God’s work, 2 Corinthians 5:19. Therefore the communication of true understanding of the gospel is taught by the Spirit, 1 John 2:27; It cannot be taught by fleshly man, or a man that don’t possess the spirit of God, Galatians 1:11-12. The Spirit bears witness with our spirit, not our carnal nature, because we are crucified with Christ, and we now walk by the spirit, Galatians 5:25, which is the same as walking in the new man, Ephesians 4:22-24. If we remain in the flesh reading the bible, and don’t walk by the spirit, and/or if there is no bearing witness with our spirit by the Holy Spirit, we have no way of understanding the bible, thus we remain blinded to the word of God, 2 Corinthians 4:4-6.
Spiritual gifts are given by the Spirit ushered through the gospel, 1 Corinthians 12:1-11. That’s why a teacher of the gospel must be filled with the Sprit to properly communicate what the Spirit is saying to the hearer in order for that hearer to understand the gospel. For this purpose, Jesus gave gifts unto men to be teachers, apostles, pastors, prophets, and evangelists, for the perfecting of the saints, Ephesians 4:8, and Ephesians 4:11-12. I do believe the work of King James in the translation of the bible was Holy Spirit inspired.
Ok. And which aspects of philosophy was Paul warning the Colossian church about? Any and all philosophy of his time? Or just some ideas floating around in the culture at large? How do we know what the referent is to which Paul is pointing?
What Apostle Paul is letting the Colossians know is they have received Christ Jesus and they must walk in Him, Colossians 2:6. Colossians 2:6-12. To walk in Christ in this way is only accomplished by the Spirit. The gospel is alive and is unto salvation, Hebrews 4:12. What Paul means about being spoiled through philosophy and vain deceit and traditions of men is we are to be complete in Christ, but when we introduce philosophy and traditions of men into the gospel, we cannot benefit from its POWER to do what the gospel is meant to do through the Holy Spirit, Romans 1:16. That’s the spoiling he’s talking about.
So, I may be incorrect here, so correct me if I'm wrong, but it almost sounds like your implying that when scholars (and they HAVE to be scholars) who translate the original manuscripts into English for us, they're ALL being led by the Holy Spirit to do so, to transcend the need to interpret within the translation process? Is this what you're implying?
Yes, the work done by these scholars in 1611 by King James were chosen by God to do His work! However, we as believers are responsible for understanding what the word of God says, which requires that we use study material to further our understanding. The bible says we must study to show thyself approved..., 2 Timothy 2:15. However, that's different from the issue of a full and complete new translation of the bible.
Well, the English language was created by man and not God, so what do we do then with the English language (or any modern language that isn't akin to either ancient Hebrew or Koine Greek)? I guess I'm not understanding how the Holy Spirit deposit 'right interpretations' in so many Christian minds when...so many Chrsitian minds end up reading the translations OF the Bible and then disagree with one another about what it is that the Holy Spirit is seemingly teaching in certain portions of the Bible. How are we to discern that our own "plain reading" is Holy Spirit inspired but that of Sally Sue at the other church down the street isn't when she also "plainly reads" the Bible by the power of the Holy Spirit.
It's kind of a modern confusion that I'm trying to sort out ...
Why?
This is where we must not look at man due to the confusion and look to God and the Holy Spirit. We can't judge whether there is truth to God's word or a spiritual process based on man's confusion. Our closeness with Jesus and the Holy Spirit will help us discern all that's wrong with the scenario you are describing, and lead you in the right way, John 14:26 and 1 Corinthians 2:13.
ok. So, what does Isaiah 28:10 mean in practical terms? You've quoted it as a place by which to be informed, but what is it telling us to do exactly in everyday terms?
The bible mentions the same events in different parts of the bible which fulfills the prophecy, "By the mouth of two witnesses, every word may be established." Matthew 18:16. God has established the truth of the His On word this way, which require that we now search His truth through "precept upon precept, line upon line." When we don't understand a scripture, we can be lead to others scriptures talking about the same thing to help increase our knowledge. That's why we use bible aides, like concordances and bible dictionaries, to help us with the process God Has designed to understand His Own word: "precept upon precept, line upon line. As I said before, this is different from creating whole new translations.
Ok. Well, why are so many Christians disagreeing on the essence and meaning on Eschatology in the Bible? Aren't they all being led by the Spirit?
I will repost what I posted above:
This is where we must not look at man due to the confusion and look to God and the Holy Spirit. We can't judge whether there is truth to God's word or a spiritual process based on man's confusion. Our closeness with Jesus and the Holy Spirit will help us discern all that's wrong with the scenario you are describing, and lead you in the right way, John 14:26 and 1 Corinthians 2:13.
I don't know. I've found that sometimes at least, we have to keep in mind the contexts and the flow of thought positied by an author in order to better understand what that author is attempting to convey. And that's not even just talking about the Bible but with any text or act of human communication.
I agree! But we also must pray for discernment.
Ok. Well, I can't say that I disagree, but aren't you interpreting the meaning of this bit from Romans 1:16 in order to understand what Paul is saying?
We have to understand what we read. if we don't understand something in the bible, we can find the meaning in another place, "precept upon precept, line upon line." For example, Romans 1:16', "It is the power of God unto salvation" can be found in other verses for better understanding, 1 Corinthians 4:20, 1 Thessalonians 1:5, etc. A study bible with references is good for finding other verses that relate which helps with interpreting what the bible is saying allowing the bible to interpret itself.
So, help me out here, because I don't want to misinterpet what your saying, but are you again implying that if the Holy Spirit is involved, we have no need for anyone else in the church to teach us? If that's the case, I guess I don't need to listen to any more sermons from any pastors or evangelists or prophets.
I mean, if I have a Bible, then there's no need for teachers and preachers and all that, right?
I will repost what I posted earlier.
If we remain in the flesh reading the bible, and don’t walk by the spirit, and/or if there is no bearing witness with our spirit by the Holy Spirit, we have no way of understanding the bible, thus we remain blinded to the word of God, 2 Corinthians 4:4-6.
Spiritual gifts are given by the Spirit ushered through the gospel, 1 Corinthians 12:1-11. That’s why a teacher of the gospel must be filled with the Sprit to properly communicate what the Spirit is saying to the hearer in order for that hearer to understand the gospel. For this purpose, Jesus gave gifts unto men to be teachers, apostles, pastors, prophets, and evangelists, for the perfecting of the saints, Ephesians 4:8, and Ephesians 4:11-12.
The gospel is alive and comes alive within the believer, Hebrews 4:12.
