Christian Anarchism

Jesus is YHWH

my Lord and my God !
Site Supporter
Dec 15, 2011
3,496
1,726
✟389,967.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Christian Anarchists do not fight, or fight back if we are challenged. We turn the other cheek. We give our shirt if our assailant takes our coat. We try not to get angry. If punished by worldly powers (We are not punished by God. He is not a punishing God. He is a God of love. Worldly punishments come from the devil.) we pray to God for strength to endure, and submit without a fight. I am sure this comes from the teachings of Jesus in His Sermon on the Mount. Jesus was an anarchist, not a political one but an anarchist all the same.
Isaiah 53
Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.

And if the above is not enough proof then look at Joseph where we read what they meant for evil God meant for good. Then there is all the sufferings of Job which God allowed to happen by His will. And if that is not enough Paul attributes his persecutions and sufferings according to the will of Christ. He identified with Christ via his persecutions, beatings, sufferings, hardships all for the sake of the Gospel.

People can misuse and abuse the bible to support just about anything by taking things out of context.

hope this helps !!!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Norman70
Upvote 0

Norman70

Active Member
Nov 8, 2018
398
222
81
St Philip
✟62,302.00
Country
Barbados
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
@Jesus is YHWH. Many thanks for your posts, I am not an avid reader of the Bible but to have Scriptures presented to me always makes interesting reading. I believe Jesus was and is God, not just the Son of God, and He would not inflict that suffering on Himself. He is not a punishing God, and certainly would not indulge in self-flagellation. The pain was experienced by the Man (I use an upper case 'M' because He was not an ordinary mortal man, even though He suffered death but He then arose again), and in this world all pain is the result of the works of the devil. not God. The devil was responsible for compelling others to inflict the punishment. Job is only a story, and if he was a real person then his afflictions were delivered by the devil, not God, as is all disease, illness and injuries.
 
Upvote 0

GodsGrace101

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Apr 17, 2018
6,713
2,298
Tuscany
✟231,507.00
Country
Italy
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I perhaps should begin another thread on this topic, but I will throw it out here for now. In my blog I am asking how Christian Anarchists deal with depression. Many SDA friends and family are doing their best for me.
Hi Norman
Sorry I haven't followed along, but I'm in agreement with your post no. 62
I don't know what a Christian Anarchist is, but the only way to help with depression is to take a pill.
 
Upvote 0

GodsGrace101

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Apr 17, 2018
6,713
2,298
Tuscany
✟231,507.00
Country
Italy
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
@GodsGrace101. I have written quite a lot in my last blog entry about depression. Medication is no good for me. Talk therapy is working. Try the Wiki entry on Christian Anarchism as a beginning if you are interested. God bless.
Yes. Talk for me is useless.
We're all different.
Will check out Wiki.
Thanks!
 
Upvote 0

SkyWriting

The Librarian
Site Supporter
Jan 10, 2010
37,279
8,500
Milwaukee
✟410,948.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Hi Norman
Sorry I haven't followed along, but I'm in agreement with your post no. 62
I don't know what a Christian Anarchist is, but the only way to help with depression is to take a pill.
Exercise works as well.
20190723-running.jpg
 
Upvote 0

SkyWriting

The Librarian
Site Supporter
Jan 10, 2010
37,279
8,500
Milwaukee
✟410,948.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Please do not be put off by the title of this thread. Because of the pejorative use of the word anarchy, by politicians, the mainstream media and the general public I am tending to avoid stating my interest in it (more or less my adult life) when in fellowship with other Christians. Kingdom Christians has been one suggested alternative.
Claiming to be a member of the universal church of Christ, as clearly described in a recent SDA Quarterly " Oneness In Christ", with excellent Scripture references and fascinating questions for discussion in their Sabbath School, is more my cup of tea.
In such a discussion as a visitor, referring to their quoted Scripture, Acts 4:32-37, the members simply laughed and said it would not work. I did not ask them why, I knew. My question now then is why do so many Christians attend an established, institutionalised and probably denominational Church? Tithing is definitely out for me.

Tithing helps you save money when you take it seriously.
 
Upvote 0

GodsGrace101

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Apr 17, 2018
6,713
2,298
Tuscany
✟231,507.00
Country
Italy
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Tithing helps you save money when you take it seriously.
How?

According to you, depression should not exist.
Running releases endorphins.....
Depression is caused by lack of serotonin .
Some "depression" can be helped by running,,,,but not clinical depression.
It's complicated and there is no easy answer.
 
Upvote 0

prophecy_uk

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2004
1,216
131
✟11,107.00
Faith
Christian
GRACE 101: "Jesus is not the messenger...
Jesus is The Message."



Malachi 3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: AND THE LORD, WHOM YE SEEK, SHALL SUDDENLY COME TO HIS TEMPLE, EVEN THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT, whom ye delight in: BEHOLD, HE SHALL COME, saith the Lord of hosts.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Norman70
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Norman70

Active Member
Nov 8, 2018
398
222
81
St Philip
✟62,302.00
Country
Barbados
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
If people want to organise a Church and give it a name it needs maintenance. Tithing and offerings then become necessary. Christian Anarchists do not need an organised Church, but when we are depressed we need something from this world, preferably not medication or ECT (see my blog entry), We have God, but is that enough? I am trying an SDA professional counselling service. Watch my blog entries. What do Christian Anarchists think and try?
 
Upvote 0

SkyWriting

The Librarian
Site Supporter
Jan 10, 2010
37,279
8,500
Milwaukee
✟410,948.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
How?

According to you, depression should not exist.

I wouldn't say that. And I didn't.


Tithings help you save more money than before you start tithing.
But you need to take it seriously. You currently spend 30% of your income, as you see fit. Keep all your receipts for everything and check for yourself.
 
  • Useful
Reactions: Norman70
Upvote 0

GodsGrace101

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Apr 17, 2018
6,713
2,298
Tuscany
✟231,507.00
Country
Italy
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I wouldn't say that. And I didn't.


Tithings help you save more money than before you start tithing.
But you need to take it seriously. You currently spend 30% of your income, as you see fit. Keep all your receipts for everything and check for yourself.
OK Skywriting, I still don't understand about the tithing...
If I give 10% to my church, I'm spending 10% more than I would have.
I still would buy all that other stuff for which I would be saving receipts.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't contribute to the costs of our church...
It's OK to end the convo here...
:blush:
 
Upvote 0

SkyWriting

The Librarian
Site Supporter
Jan 10, 2010
37,279
8,500
Milwaukee
✟410,948.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
OK Skywriting, I still don't understand about the tithing...
If I give 10% to my church, I'm spending 10% more than I would have.
I still would buy all that other stuff for which I would be saving receipts.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't contribute to the costs of our church...
It's OK to end the convo here...
:blush:
DO save all your receipts for everything you buy for a week or two.
You will discover you are overspending about 30% over your needs.
Minus 10% that leaves you 20% that you can save.
Get back to me next week.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

GodsGrace101

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Apr 17, 2018
6,713
2,298
Tuscany
✟231,507.00
Country
Italy
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
DO save all your receipts for everything you buy for a week or two.
You will discover you are overspending about 30% over your needs.
Minus 10% that leaves you 20% that you can save.
Get back to me next week.
Did you ever hear this?:
My needs are simple...
But my wants are very expensive.

I live in italy and here persons from different income levels live in the same neighborhoods,,,unlike the situation know NYC where I lived most of my life.

I know many that DO buy only what they need.
Most buy stuff they don't really need. The lower income receivers cannot spend 30% on things they don't need.

This reminds me of Mark 12:41...
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

SkyWriting

The Librarian
Site Supporter
Jan 10, 2010
37,279
8,500
Milwaukee
✟410,948.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Did you ever hear this?:
My needs are simple...
But my wants are very expensive.

I live in italy and here persons from different income levels live in the same neighborhoods,,,unlike the situation know NYC where I lived most of my life.

I know many that DO buy only what they need.
Most buy stuff they don't really need. The lower income receivers cannot spend 30% on things they don't need.

This reminds me of Mark 12:41...

Yes, the low income people spend more than they need to, like everyone else does. About 30%.
 
Upvote 0

SkyWriting

The Librarian
Site Supporter
Jan 10, 2010
37,279
8,500
Milwaukee
✟410,948.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Did you ever hear this?:
My needs are simple...
But my wants are very expensive.

I live in italy and here persons from different income levels live in the same neighborhoods,,,unlike the situation know NYC where I lived most of my life.

I know many that DO buy only what they need.
Most buy stuff they don't really need. The lower income receivers cannot spend 30% on things they don't need.
Yet they do. Thanks.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

GodsGrace101

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Apr 17, 2018
6,713
2,298
Tuscany
✟231,507.00
Country
Italy
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
If anything you have said to me is a lie
can I have all your blessings from God?
Yes or no?
If you answer with anything
but a "yes" or not at all then
it will be counted as a "NO".
??
No lies.
And yes, may you be blessed all your life.
 
Upvote 0