If evolution is true

dlamberth · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
I just know we have no real understanding of that possibility... and that His ways are not our ways.

What I know as Truth is that the whole of Nature (which includes time) is nakedly honest. God made it that way. To suggest that God does time warps because what we see around us does not fit our cherished beliefs, that in my mind makes God and by association everything else in this Creation to be something other than Truth. That's why from my perspective the whole idea of God messing with time is complete nonsense.

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

dlamberth said:
What I know as Truth is that the whole of Nature (which includes time) is nakedly honest. God made it that way. To suggest that God does time warps because what we see around us does not fit our cherished beliefs, that in my mind makes God and by association everything else in this Creation to be something other than Truth. That's why from my perspective the whole idea of God messing with time is complete nonsense.

I can see that.

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Because we have no evidence of a non-natural origin. It's really not that hard.

Wait a minute now, you have no evidence of a natural one either... do you?

Warden_of_the_Storm · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
Wait a minute now, you have no evidence of a natural one either... do you?

Hypothesis based on current evidence of life.
Which is a lot more than the religious belief of the super-natural, which has no evidence.

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

tas8831 said:
And YOUR origin for DNA is...? Silicates being 'willed' into being a collection of monosaccharides, phosphates, and nitrogenous bases, all at once? The mechanism for that is...?

Divine power

pitabread · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
Divine power

How does that make DNA?

Warden_of_the_Storm · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
Divine power

If you have to rely on that to solve everything, then you can't really solve anything.

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

pitabread said:
How does that make DNA?

How did natural processes make it?

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
If you have to rely on that to solve everything, then you can't really solve anything.

And yours is still just a hypothesis.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
And yours is still just a hypothesis.

A hypothesis is much better than what you have. Which is nothing. You just go "Goddidit" and run off. No way to test, no way to validate. You rely so much on the idea of time not being consistent in history along with your reliance on the supernatural that you have nothing scientific to give.

pitabread · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
How did natural processes make it?

Chemical reactions between molecules. In fact, synthesizing nucleotides via chemical reactions isn't that big a mystery any more. Scientists have even synthesized whole new nucleotide bases in the lab.

So how does this divine power thing make DNA?

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
A hypothesis is much better than what you have. Which is nothing. You just go "Goddidit" and run off. No way to test, no way to validate. You rely so much on the idea of time not being consistent in history along with your reliance on the supernatural that you have nothing scientific to give.

Don't you ever wonder why time is the only dimension we're sort of a prisoner to... one direction and one speed only? The other well-known ones have at least two directions with variable speeds.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
Don't you ever wonder why time is the only dimension we're sort of a prisoner to... one direction and one speed only? The other well-known ones have at least two directions with variable speeds.

Not really doing anything to prove you right. Just bluster and blather.

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

pitabread said:
Chemical reactions between molecules.

So how does this divine power thing make DNA?

You make fun of Divine power and all you have is a 'chemical reaction'???

pitabread · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
You make fun of Divine power and all you have is a 'chemical reaction'???

Chemical reactions are how nucleotides forms. We can even synthesize nucleotides in the lab via chemistry.

Here's a video on nucleotide synthesis:

So meanwhile, how does this divine power thing make DNA? Please explain how it works.

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

pitabread said:
Chemical reactions are how nucleotides forms. We can even synthesize nucleotides in the lab via chemical reactions.

Here's a video on nucleotide synthesis:

So meanwhile, how does this divine power thing make DNA?

Sorry, I don't have time to watch right now. I know CRISPR technology has come a long way with gene editing (and that's great), but you're not suggesting you can make DNA from scratch are you?

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

pitabread said:
So meanwhile, how does this divine power thing make DNA? Please explain how it works.

Sorry, I see you asked this again... missed it. I don't know, that's the way Divine power works.

pitabread · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
Sorry, I don't have time to watch right now. I know CRISPR technology has come a long way with gene editing (and that's great), but you're not suggesting you can make DNA from scratch are you?

Depending on what you mean by "from scratch" (*anticipated sounds of goal posts moving*), yes we can.

So how does divine power work? How does it make things like DNA, nucleotides, or anything related to biological matter?

Please explain.

pitabread · Oct 6, 2021

inquiring mind said:
Sorry, I see you asked this again... missed it. I don't know, that's the way Divine power works.

Then why suggest it as an origin for DNA?

If you don't know how it works, how do you know it could have made DNA?

inquiring mind · Oct 6, 2021

pitabread said:
Depending on what you mean by "from scratch" (*anticipated sounds of goal posts moving*), yes we can.

So how does divine power work? How does it make things like DNA, nucleotides, or anything related to biological matter?

Please explain.

So, you've discovered the origin of DNA???

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