Hebrews 3 and 4 do not delete God's Sabbath commandment

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Heb 4:9 "there REMAINS therefore a SABBATH rest for the people of God" (uses the word "remains" instead of "deleted")

Heb 3: (Quotes Ps 95 at the time of DAVID)
7 Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,
Today if you hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as when they provoked Me,
As on the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers put Me to the test,
And saw My works for forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with this generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they did not know My ways’;
11 As I swore in My anger,
They certainly shall not enter My rest.’”

12 Take care, brothers and sisters, that there will not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another every day, as long as it is still called “today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end,

Note that the risk of rebellion and falling away was not limited to the OT - the risk is the SAME in both OT and NT. This is not about a "Change in the NT".

========== part II

Heb 3: 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who were disobedient? 19 And so we see that they were not able to enter because of unbelief.

Disobedience and unbelief are "the risk"/"the danger" to be avoided.

=========== Part III

Heb 4
Therefore, we must fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good news (GOSPEL) preached to us, just as they also did;

SAME Gospel according to Heb 4:2 - and SAME warning given to us in Heb 3 and 4 as we see in Ps 95 given to Israel by David. And the SAME example of "failure" given to BOTH the saints of David's day AND the NT saints - regarding the ones who rebelled against God in the wilderness.

Obviously Moses, Aaron, Miriam and others who died in the wilderness were prophets of God , faithful saints and Moses is affirmed in Heb 3 as well as Heb 11 as a saint. In fact in Matt 17 Moses appears in glory with Elijah and Christ on the mount of transfiguration BEFORE the cross even happens.

Heb 4:6 Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who previously had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience,
Heb 4:7 He again sets a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,

“Today if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

The "rest" is past tense in Heb 4. "HAS also rested", "HAS entered His rest". Heb 3 ends on the note of "perseverance" to continue 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end
 
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============== part IV

The law "taken away" in Heb 10:4-12 is the Law of "animal sacrifice and offerings" where the text says "He takes away the first to establish the second".

In Heb 10 it is a Law taken away.

in Heb 4 we have the example of Law that remains used as an argument to continue in faith.

The Example in Heb 4 would FAIL if he had used a deleted/expired law as the illustration saying "there REMAINS therefore animal sacrifices and offerings for the people of God" - that would make no sense to the reader.
 
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It only works one way - for Heb 4 to encourage continued perseverance he cannot appeal to deleted law as in "There remains this deleted command" to argue for continued perseverance.

Notice that in Heb 11 the writer insists that the OT saints continue to be an example for NT saints.

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Heb 3: 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who were disobedient? 19 And so we see that they were not able to enter because of unbelief.

Heb 4 says this

Heb 4:6 Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who previously had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience,

Paul argues that the only ones who did not enter were those in rebellion - who did not enter due to unbelief.

He does not claim he is one who has not entered it.
He does not claim no one not even the saints can enter for another 2000 years.
He does not claim that the saints of the OT did not enter.

This means the Sabbath is being used as a symbol of the saving relationship with Christ in Heb 4 and this only works as a symbol if it is not "deleted". So for example if he says "there remains therefore an animal sacrifice for the people of God" it would not work - because in fact that does NOT remain and as a symbol it would not work. Only something that actually does remain could be used as a symbol for something "that remains"
 
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Heb 4:9 "there REMAINS therefore a SABBATH rest for the people of God" (uses the word "remains" instead of "deleted")

Heb 3: (Quotes Ps 95 at the time of DAVID)
7 Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,
Today if you hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as when they provoked Me,
As on the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers put Me to the test,
And saw My works for forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with this generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they did not know My ways’;
11 As I swore in My anger,
They certainly shall not enter My rest.’”

12 Take care, brothers and sisters, that there will not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another every day, as long as it is still called “today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end,

Note that the risk of rebellion and falling away was not limited to the OT - the risk is the SAME in both OT and NT. This is not about a "Change in the NT".

========== part II

Heb 3: 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who were disobedient? 19 And so we see that they were not able to enter because of unbelief.

Disobedience and unbelief are "the risk"/"the danger" to be avoided.

=========== Part III

Heb 4
Therefore, we must fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good news (GOSPEL) preached to us, just as they also did;

SAME Gospel according to Heb 4:2 - and SAME warning given to us in Heb 3 and 4 as we see in Ps 95 given to Israel by David. And the SAME example of "failure" given to BOTH the saints of David's day AND the NT saints - regarding the ones who rebelled against God in the wilderness.

Obviously Moses, Aaron, Miriam and others who died in the wilderness were prophets of God , faithful saints and Moses is affirmed in Heb 3 as well as Heb 11 as a saint. In fact in Matt 17 Moses appears in glory with Elijah and Christ on the mount of transfiguration BEFORE the cross even happens.

Heb 4:7 He again sets a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,

“Today if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

The "rest" is past tense in Heb 4. "HAS also rested", "HAS entered His rest". Heb 3 ends on the note of "perseverance" to continue 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end
Yes ... it's just that relationship with God is no longer conditioned upon keeping the Law.

The Old Covenant is still effectual ... for non-believers, but for believers, the basis of Covenant with God is His grace extended towards us.

Romans 7:6 But now we have been delivered from the Law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
 
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IMO the new covenant Sabbath is a day of actual rest, and unless one rests on that day they cannot understand it. People don't generally understand how fatigued they actually are, mentally and physically. Only by regularly resting mind and body for a full day can we recover our mental, physical, and spiritual strength. Of course one needs to be advised that actually resting for a full day might be the most difficult of the commandments to keep. It takes strength of resolve to get through it in the beginning as most want to 'be doing something' all the time, but the fruits of a Sabbath day's rest will reveal the reason for and the wisdom of it.
 
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Hebrews 4 is talking about eternal rest.

Hebrews 4 makes it past tense not future.

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

The "rest" is past tense in Heb 4. "HAS also rested", "HAS entered His rest". Heb 3 ends on the note of "perseverance" to continue 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end
 
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IMO the new covenant Sabbath is a day of actual rest, and unless one rests on that day they cannot understand it. People don't generally understand how fatigued they actually are, mentally and physically.

True and Jer 31:31-34 pens the "New Covenant" while telling us that it writs the Law of God known to Jeremiah and his readers "on the heart and mind"
 
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Yes ... it's just that relationship with God is no longer conditioned upon keeping the Law.

The Old Covenant is still effectual ... for non-believers, but for believers, the basis of Covenant with God is His grace extended towards us.

Romans 7:6 But now we have been delivered from the Law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

No question that for the person that chooses to remain under the Gospel covenant - which is the New Covenant - we are no longer under the curse/condemnation of the Law. And that was true for Adam and for us -- one Gospel in all ages Gal 1:6-9.

In Matt 7 Jesus explains how our relationship to God is affected by our choice to accept or reject His Word.
 
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Heb 4:9 "there REMAINS therefore a SABBATH rest for the people of God" (uses the word "remains" instead of "deleted")

Heb 3: (Quotes Ps 95 at the time of DAVID)
7 Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,
Today if you hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as when they provoked Me,
As on the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers put Me to the test,
And saw My works for forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with this generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they did not know My ways’;
11 As I swore in My anger,
They certainly shall not enter My rest.’”

12 Take care, brothers and sisters, that there will not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another every day, as long as it is still called “today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end,

Note that the risk of rebellion and falling away was not limited to the OT - the risk is the SAME in both OT and NT. This is not about a "Change in the NT".

========== part II

Heb 3: 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who were disobedient? 19 And so we see that they were not able to enter because of unbelief.

Disobedience and unbelief are "the risk"/"the danger" to be avoided.

=========== Part III

Heb 4
Therefore, we must fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good news (GOSPEL) preached to us, just as they also did;

SAME Gospel according to Heb 4:2 - and SAME warning given to us in Heb 3 and 4 as we see in Ps 95 given to Israel by David. And the SAME example of "failure" given to BOTH the saints of David's day AND the NT saints - regarding the ones who rebelled against God in the wilderness.

Obviously Moses, Aaron, Miriam and others who died in the wilderness were prophets of God , faithful saints and Moses is affirmed in Heb 3 as well as Heb 11 as a saint. In fact in Matt 17 Moses appears in glory with Elijah and Christ on the mount of transfiguration BEFORE the cross even happens.

Heb 4:7 He again sets a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,

“Today if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

The "rest" is past tense in Heb 4. "HAS also rested", "HAS entered His rest". Heb 3 ends on the note of "perseverance" to continue 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end

Jesus explains here too, that your arguing is in vain.

John 7:21-24
Jesus answered them, “I did one work, and you all marvel at it. Moses gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. If on the Sabbath a man receives circumcision, so that the law of Moses may not be broken, are you angry with me because on the Sabbath I made a man's whole body well? Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”
 
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Heb 4:9 "there REMAINS therefore a SABBATH rest for the people of God" (uses the word "remains" instead of "deleted")

Heb 3: (Quotes Ps 95 at the time of DAVID)
7 Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,
Today if you hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as when they provoked Me,
As on the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers put Me to the test,
And saw My works for forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with this generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they did not know My ways’;
11 As I swore in My anger,
They certainly shall not enter My rest.’”

12 Take care, brothers and sisters, that there will not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another every day, as long as it is still called “today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end,

Note that the risk of rebellion and falling away was not limited to the OT - the risk is the SAME in both OT and NT. This is not about a "Change in the NT".

========== part II

Heb 3: 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who were disobedient? 19 And so we see that they were not able to enter because of unbelief.

Disobedience and unbelief are "the risk"/"the danger" to be avoided.

=========== Part III

Heb 4
Therefore, we must fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good news (GOSPEL) preached to us, just as they also did;

SAME Gospel according to Heb 4:2 - and SAME warning given to us in Heb 3 and 4 as we see in Ps 95 given to Israel by David. And the SAME example of "failure" given to BOTH the saints of David's day AND the NT saints - regarding the ones who rebelled against God in the wilderness.

Obviously Moses, Aaron, Miriam and others who died in the wilderness were prophets of God , faithful saints and Moses is affirmed in Heb 3 as well as Heb 11 as a saint. In fact in Matt 17 Moses appears in glory with Elijah and Christ on the mount of transfiguration BEFORE the cross even happens.

Heb 4:7 He again sets a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,

“Today if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

The "rest" is past tense in Heb 4. "HAS also rested", "HAS entered His rest". Heb 3 ends on the note of "perseverance" to continue 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end

Those Bible texts make the case - perfectly

Jesus explains here too, that your arguing is in vain.

I did not write the Bible.. you may have me confused with someone
 
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8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.
Brother, you are a brave person in addressing God's message in Hebrews 3 and 4! Hebrews 3 and 4 explains the story of God's Sabbath where God by oath did not allow them to enter His Sabbath "rest" for 40 years as punishment for their prior disobedience. How did they not enter God's Sabbath "rest" for the 40 years with manna while keeping the seventh day of the week near the Promised Land? What was wrong after those 40 years with their vision of God's Sabbath from Joshua onward? United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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Brother, you are a brave person in addressing God's message in Hebrews 3 and 4! Hebrews 3 and 4 explains the story of God's Sabbath where God by oath did not allow them to enter His Sabbath "rest" for 40 years as punishment for their prior disobedience.

They did not enter Canaan - but in Heb 4 the rest is "past tense" regarding those who "have entered".

Heb 4:7 He again sets a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,

“Today if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

The "rest" is past tense in Heb 4. "HAS also rested", "HAS entered His rest". Heb 3 ends on the note of "perseverance" to continue 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end

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The appeal for the one "who HAS entered His rest" is to remain steadfast

Heb3:12 Take care, brothers and sisters, that there will not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another every day, as long as it is still called “today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we keep the beginning of our commitment firm until the end,
 
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Hebrews 4 is talking about eternal rest.
Amen! Keeping the weekly sabbath day under the law as a legalistic prescription for salvation is certainly NOT the eternal rest that the writer of Hebrews was discussing in Hebrews 4, but instead was talking about our eternal rest in Christ which only genuine believers enter into.

Hebrews 4:1 - Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. 3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:

“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”

although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
 
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Ezekiel 20:13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths.

Hebrews 4:6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience,

This seems pretty clear to me. If you believe do you obey or disobey what God tells us? When God says Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy, do we believe Him?
 
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Amen! Keeping the weekly sabbath day under the law as a legalistic prescription for salvation is certainly NOT the eternal rest .

"Keeping the command to not take God's name in vain under the law as a legalistic prescription for salvation is certainly NOT eternal rest" is the kind of statement that applies to every command God gives in scripture and proves very little in a debate about any one command in the Word of God.
 
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They did not enter Canaan
Brother, there is no need to speculate what God meant by the word "rest" because the Hebrews 3 and 4 passage identifies the "rest" as referring to when God rested from His labor after creating the world on the seventh day of the week of creation.

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” (Hebrews 4:1-5 NLT)

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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Brother, there is no need to speculate what God meant by the word "rest" because the Hebrews 3 and 4 passage identifies the "rest" as referring to when God rested from His labor after creating the world on the seventh day of the week of creation.

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” (Hebrews 4:1-5 NLT)

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
So ... we all recognize that the failure of the Israelites, in regard to God not allowing them to enter His rest ... was their failure to advance into Canaan when God first instructed them to do so.

They had received the report of the spies, and did not move in FAITH ... that God would give to them the land.

Right ???

Numbers 14:20-38

And the Lord spoke to Moses and to Aaron, saying, this wicked congregation grumble against me? I have heard the grumblings of the people of Israel, which they grumble against me. ‘As I live, declares the Lord, what you have said in my hearing I will do to you: your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness, and of all your number, listed in the census from twenty years old and upward, who have grumbled against me, swore that I would make you dwell, except Caleb the son of Jephunneh and Joshua the son of Nun.

But your little ones, who you said would become a prey, I will bring in, and they shall know the land that you have rejected. your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness. shall be shepherds in the wilderness forty years and shall suffer for your faithlessness, until the last of your dead bodies lies in the wilderness.

According to the number of the days in which you spied out the land, forty days, a year for each day, you shall bear your iniquity forty years, and you shall know my displeasure.’ I, the Lord, have spoken. Surely this will I do to all this wicked congregation who are gathered together against me: in this wilderness they shall come to a full end, and there they shall die.”

And the men whom Moses sent to spy out the land, who returned and made all the congregation grumble against him by bringing up a bad report about the land— died by plague before the Lord. Only Joshua the son of Nun and Caleb the son of Jephunneh remained alive.
 
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So ... we all recognize that the failure of the Israelites, in regard to God not allowing them to enter His rest ... was their failure to advance into Canaan when God first instructed them to do so. They had received the report of the spies, and did not move in FAITH ... that God would give to them the land. Right ???
Brother, since God tells us what He means by the word "rest" as the rest of the seventh day of creation, we know that they did not enter God's Sabbath "rest" while keeping the seventh day of the week with manna for 40 years near the Promised Land. The reason is that the seventh day of the week is from morning to morning and remembering God's Sabbath "rest" near the Promised Land falls from evening to evening and not on the seventh day of the week from morning to morning. United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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Numbers 14:20-38

And the Lord spoke to Moses and to Aaron, saying, this wicked congregation grumble against me? I have heard the grumblings of the people of Israel, which they grumble against me. ‘As I live, declares the Lord, what you have said in my hearing I will do to you: your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness, and of all your number, listed in the census from twenty years old and upward, who have grumbled against me, swore that I would make you dwell, except Caleb the son of Jephunneh and Joshua the son of Nun.

But your little ones, who you said would become a prey, I will bring in, and they shall know the land that you have rejected. your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness. shall be shepherds in the wilderness forty years and shall suffer for your faithlessness, until the last of your dead bodies lies in the wilderness.

According to the number of the days in which you spied out the land, forty days, a year for each day, you shall bear your iniquity forty years, and you shall know my displeasure.’ I, the Lord, have spoken. Surely this will I do to all this wicked congregation who are gathered together against me: in this wilderness they shall come to a full end, and there they shall die.”

And the men whom Moses sent to spy out the land, who returned and made all the congregation grumble against him by bringing up a bad report about the land— died by plague before the Lord. Only Joshua the son of Nun and Caleb the son of Jephunneh remained alive.
Brother, the word "rest" is not mentioned in the passage you provided. The oath not to allow them to enter His Sabbath "rest" in Hebrews 3 and 4 was an extra punishment to what mentioned is here. United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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