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FreeGrace2 said: ↑
Let me ask you this: did a former believer EVER receive the gift of eternal life?
And, your position goes directly against what the Lord Jesus said about recipients of eternal life. He specifically said "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish".
How could He have made it any more clear than that? Those He gives eternal life shall never perish. You have not shown from Scripture anything contrary to that.
I think you are trying to compare apples to oranges.
Let me ask you this: did a former believer EVER receive the gift of eternal life?
This is the sticking point. Where does the Bible say in unambigous words that eternal life can be ever revoked, taken away, removed, lost, et? That's the problem with your position. There are no such verses. So this is a presumption. There is NO evidence of eternal life being lost.They possess eternal life until they no longer believe.
And, your position goes directly against what the Lord Jesus said about recipients of eternal life. He specifically said "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish".
How could He have made it any more clear than that? Those He gives eternal life shall never perish. You have not shown from Scripture anything contrary to that.
Yes. Destruction can take various forms. All will be painful. God's discipline IS painful according to Heb 12:11. The many warnings are to warn saved people of painful discipline when they are unfaithful or disobedient. However, NONE of the warnings mention loss of salvation or eternal life.That's why we are warned that falling for false teaching brings destruction.
Right. In the second verse you quoted, the context are unsaved false teachers."The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron."
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."
I think you are trying to compare apples to oranges.
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