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Colossians 2:16-17 NIV Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

This is a good scripture and links very nicely into the previous section of scriptures that disagrees with your teachings of lawlessness as shown above. The chapter of Colossians 2:11-17 is also in regards to the shadow laws. Let's see which ones though...

Colossians 2:16-17 [16] Let no man therefore judge you in MEAT OR IN DRINK, or in respect of A HOLY DAY [Feast day in the Greek], or of THE NEW MOON, or of THE SABBATH DAYS :[17], Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The above scriptures are in context and in reference to the MEAT AND THE DRINK OFFERINGS; THE NEW MOONS and THE SABBATHS (plural) IN THE FEAST DAYS that are a shadow of things to come but the body is of Christ. Paul is quoting from the old testament scriptures in Ezekiel here and elsewhere...

Ezekiel 45:17 [17] And it shall be the prince's part to give BURNT OFFERINGS, and MEAT OFFERINGS, and DRINK OFFERINGS, in the FEASTS, and in the NEW MOONS, and in the SABBATHS, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.

The reference to both Colossians 2:16 and also to Ezekiel 45:17 is to the meat and drink offerings, the new moons and the sabbaths (plural) with the context and application to the Feast days not God's 4th commandment outside of the annual Feast days. Colossians 2:17 says that these are all shadows fulfilled in the body of Christ.

It is the shadow sabbaths (plural) in the annual Feast days and their meat and drink offering and the new moons are now fulfilled and continued in the body of Christ in the new covenant. In the old covenant there were many "shadow sabbaths" in the feast days and it is these that Colossians 2:16 are in reference to not God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments that give us a knowledge of what sin is when broken in the new covenant *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4.

These annual shadow sabbaths connected to the Feast days included; (1) Feast of Unleavened Bread (first and last day) *Leviticus 23:6-8 (2) Feast of Trumpets *Leviticus 23:24-25 (3) Day of Atonement *Leviticus 23:27-32 (4) Feast of Booths *Leviticus 23:34-36 (5) Feast of First Fruits *Leviticus 23:39 (6) Feast days of Holy convocation of no work (sabbaton Colossians 2:16 *Leviticus 23:7-8; 21;24; 27; 35-36. Unlike God's 4th commandment that is linked only to the "seventh day" of the week. These ceremonial sabbaths are linked directly to the Feast days and can fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle.

It is impossible that Colossians 2:16 is in reference to God's 4th commandment as God's 4th commandment is a part of the "finished work of creation" *Genesis 2:1-3. It point backwards to the finished work of creation (Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11) not forwards to things to come (Colossians 2:17). There was no sin and no law and no plan of salvation for unfallen man when the Sabbath was made for mankind *Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3. Now notice something very important. God's 4th commandment does not point forward to things to come *Colossians 2:17 it points backward (Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy - Exodus 20:8). Gods 4th commandment points backwards because it is a memorial of the finished work of creation and the celebration of God as the creator of heaven and earth...

All the above link back in to the book of Hebrews...

HEBREWS 9:1-12 [1] Then verily THE FIRST COVENANT HAD ALSO ORDINANCES of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.... [9] WHICH WAS A FIGURE for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;[10] WHICH STOOD ONLY IN MEATS AND DRINKS, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.[12] NEITHER BY THE BLOOD OF GOATS AND CALVES, BUT BY HIS OWN BLOOD he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

HEBREWS 10:1-9
[1], FOR THE LAW HAVING A SHADOW OF GOOD THINGS TO COME, AND NOT THE VERY IMAGE OF THE THINGS, CAN NEVER WITH THOSE SACRIFICES which they offered YEAR BY YEAR continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
[2], For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshipers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
[3], But in those SACRIFICES there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. [Annual day of Atonement = Feat day and annual Sabbath not weekly ]
[4], For it is not possible that THE BLOOD OF BULLS AND GOATS should take away sins.
[5], Why when he comes into the world, he said, SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS YOU WOULD NOT BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME:
[6], IN BURNT OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES FOR SIN YOU HAVE HAD NO PLEASURE.
[7], Then said I, See, I come in the VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME, to do your will, O God.
[8], Above when he said, SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS AND BURNT OFFERINGS AND OFFERINGS FOR SIN YOU WOULD NOT, neither had pleasure therein; WHICH ARE OFFERED BY THE LAW;
[9], Then said he, See, I come to do your will, O God. He takes away the first, that he may establish the second.

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CONCLUSION: Context matters dear friend. Colossians 2:16-17 is in reference to the
meat and the drink offerings and the new moons and all the sabbaths in the Feast days not God's 10 commandments of Gods' 4th commandment of God's 10 commandments. Gods Word does not teach lawlessness.

Hope this is helpful.
 
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Well, it appears you are JUMPING to conclusions that are NOT "the Word of God".

I've had to point out several times the difference between the actual word of God, and someone's conclusions regarding of the word of God.
 
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... it is explained to you you’re only interested in the answer you like...
That saw cuts both ways, friend.

How assumptive of you.
I must be wrong, because you declare yourself to be right.
Rather suffocating to productive discussion.
Take a break if you are tired.
 
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You missed the punch line. They tried to kill him by throwing him off a cliff. Why?
Was it because of his sabbath-supportive teaching?

Luke 4:28-30 NIV
All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29 They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff. 30 But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.
Not sure the point you are trying to make.

Do you follow Jesus in His footsteps or follower of “others’ with what they did to Jesus?
 
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John 5:18 says flat out that he was breaking the sabbath. And who else knew Jesus better than John? But seeing as he pointed out that he is lord of the sabbath, he of course had the authority to do so.
Yes, exactly.
And this was supported by public opinion. Scripture below.
If the Sabbath was of any importance at all, wouldn't Jesus had been the perfect example? But what do we find?

John 9:16 NIV
Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others asked, “How can a sinner perform such signs?” So they were divided.
 
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That saw cuts both ways, friend.

How assumptive of you.
I must be wrong, because you declare yourself to be right.
Rather suffocating to productive discussion.
Take a break if you are tired.
True thats why it’s important to follow God’s Word. You claim there is no law in the NT but have yet to respond to the Words from Jesus saying the opposite.
 
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Yes, exactly.
And this was supported by public opinion. Scripture below.
If the Sabbath was of any importance at all, wouldn't Jesus had been the perfect example? But what do we find?

John 9:16 NIV
Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others asked, “How can a sinner perform such signs?” So they were divided.
So now you are believing Pharisees that accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath over believing Jesus when He said He did not? John 15:10.
 
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Do you follow Jesus in His footsteps or follower of “others’ with what they did to Jesus?
That's a ridiculous question for you to ask me, on so many levels.

1) Jesus wasn't the "law-keeper" you tryi8ng to make him out to be.
2) Jesus went from town to town casting out demons, healing the sick, and raising the dead. Are you following "Jesus in His footsteps or follower of “others’ with what they did to Jesus?"

How are you doing on your list of Jesus' commands?

Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.
 
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That's a ridiculous question for you to ask me, on so many levels.

1) Jesus wasn't the "law-keeper" you tryi8ng to make him out to be.
2) Jesus went from town to town casting out demons, healing the sick, and raising the dead. Are you following "Jesus in His footsteps or follower of “others’ with what they did to Jesus?"

How are you doing on your list of Jesus' commands?

Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.
What is it you don’t believe about this statement Jesus made?
John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

You claim Jesus wasn’t the law keeper but thats not what Jesus told us.
 
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So now you are believing Pharisees that accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath over believing Jesus when He said He did not? John 15:1?
Yea I kind of cannot believe what I see written on these forums sometimes with people trying to claim that Jesus is a sinner in order to try and justify breaking God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments all in order to follow man-made teachings and traditions that have led many away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God. It does not matter if you show from the scriptures that Jesus says if we knowingly follow man-made teachings and traditions we are not worshiping God in Matthew 15:2-9. It begs the question though doesn't it. If Jesus says if we are knowingly following man-made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God who are we following by doing this; God or man?


God bless sis keep up the good work God is our strength and refuge. :clap:
 
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Yes, exactly.
And this was supported by public opinion. Scripture below.
If the Sabbath was of any importance at all, wouldn't Jesus had been the perfect example? But what do we find?

John 9:16 NIV
Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others asked, “How can a sinner perform such signs?” So they were divided.

The sabbath was fulfilled in Jesus. Some like to say that Jesus didn't abolish it, and that's correct. Fulfillment and abolishment are two different things.

“Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30

"Since this is the case, why are you putting God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our forefathers nor we have been able to bear? Acts of the Apostles 15:10
 
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I've had to point out several times the difference between the actual word of God, and someone's conclusions regarding of the word of God.
You may have to post a link to that claim. That is one that I have never seen here.
 
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Yea I kind of cannot believe what I see written on these forums sometimes with people trying to claim that Jesus is a sinner in order to try and justify breaking God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments all in order to follow man-made teachings and traditions that have led many away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God. It does not matter if you show from the scriptures that Jesus says if we knowingly follow man-made teachings and traditions we are not worshiping God in Matthew 15:2-9. It begs the question though doesn't it. If Jesus says if we are knowingly following man-made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God who are we following by doing this; God or man?


God bless sis keep up the good work God is our strength and refuge. :clap:
It's heart-breaking considering the sacrifice Jesus made for each of us.
 
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The sabbath was fulfilled in Jesus. Some like to say that Jesus didn't abolish it, and that's correct. Fulfillment and abolishment are two different things.

“Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” (Matthew 11:28-30)

Your mixing up the rest we receive through believing and following Gods' Word says with Gods' 4th commandment that defines the "Sabbath" as "the seventh day" of creation (See Exodus 20:10).

THE GOSPEL REST OF BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING GOD'S WORD

Matthew 11:28-20 [28], COME TO ME, ALL YOU THAT LABOR AND ARE HEAVY LADEN, AND I WILL GIVE YOU REST. [29], TAKE MY YOKE ON YOU, AND LEARN OF ME; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and you shall find rest to your souls. [30], For MY YOKE IS EASY, AND MY BURDEN IS LIGHT.

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GOD'S SABBATH REST OF GOD'S 4TH COMMANDMENT

Exodus 20:10 BUT THE SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH OF THE LORD THY GOD.

Your reading into the scriptures what the scriptures do not say and teach as you call it eisegetical interpretation of the scriptures (reading into the scriptures what the scriptures do not say and teach)

Take Care.
 
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Since when is YOUR OPINION God’s Word?
Jesus says: IF you love Me keep the Commandments (the law) John 14:15

Steve says:
The law was our guardian until Christ came, that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. (the law) Faith = the end of the law. (actually, we were never under the law, so... double whammy)

James says:

James 2:17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Steve says:
The law was our guardian until Christ came, that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. (the law) Faith = the end of the law. (actually, we were never under the law, so... double whammy)

Paul says

Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
1 Cor 7:19 keeping the commandments of God is what matters

Steve says:
The law was our guardian until Christ came, that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. (the law) Faith = the end of the law. (actually, we were never under the law, so... double whammy)

John says:
Revelations 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelations 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Steve says:
The law was our guardian until Christ came, that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. (the law) Faith = the end of the law. (actually, we were never under the law, so... double whammy)

I am going with God's Word. God does give us free will though.

God bless
 
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Apparently whenever verse links are tagged onto it.
Scripture is Gods Word is it not? Accept when it is twisted to say things it does not say through eisegesis (reading into the scriptures what they do not say and do not teach).
 
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