vaccine mandates

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I read yesterday that as of about four days ago some 56% of American adults support some form of vaccine mandates; meanwhile over half 51% supported them as a condition for indoor dining.

Do you support them if so under what conditions?

I support a business owner's right to require them of employees and more and more I am supporting them as a condition of large gatherings think concerts, sports games and the like
 
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I read yesterday that as of about four days ago some 56% of American adults support some form of vaccine mandates; meanwhile over half 51% supported them as a condition for indoor dining.

Do you support them if so under what conditions?

I support a business owner's right to require them of employees and more and more I am supporting them as a condition of large gatherings think concerts, sports games and the like

Voted under certain conditions. There are already vaccine mandates for school and such with other vaccines, it is simply that to my knowledge it took a lot longer to implement, so I'd just want a longer time. Some of them I didn't get at all (like the HPV one which is newer AFAIK, I won't need it anyway even if it was old so I wouldn't get it). I am probably wrong on this though, I don't know vaccine mandate history.

Edit: having looked it up that current vaccine mandates that I fulfilled to go to school I was correct.
 
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I support them in schools and workplaces that require close contact or contact with the public.

WE are in an age where freedom of movement has a cost and we need to recognize that cost.
 
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Well, it seems there are people very convinced for vaccinations and others are very against it. And it seems we have educated and professional people, both ways. And I personally know people I have considered to be real Jesus people, and they are both ways.

And I prayed and trusted God to simply have me do what He wants. And I got the shot and have taken precautions. But I evaluated things by my personal education and experience with medicine; I did not go only by what public figures were claiming.

After all . . . for just one example . . . something so praised and trusted like Tylenol has now been said to be potentially dangerous. But it seems this is in very large quantities, though . . . though I suppose ones can turn this into Tylenol being bad in any quantity > ones can over-state things.

And it seems we have pro-vax and anti-vax people who are nasty and even brutal against each other. So, I am against this. Maybe there are ones overstating things, in either direction . . . overly praising or overly razing the COVID shots. And now I suspect shot reactions can be much more severe and ruining of a life, than getting the sickness would have been . . . at least for ones with an allergic reaction, since the injection can have or cause a high concentration of some substance getting the allergic reaction, more than in an infection with a virus which might bring a much smaller quantity of the substance to which someone reacts in a dangerous way. So, I don't feel I should push anyone, one way or the other, about how each person chooses to risk.

But I am satisfied with risking myself for others; so this could be part of why I have been fine with getting the shot, myself > loving others as myself, being willing to lay my life down for others.

And the Bible says, in Romans 13, to obey our secular leaders, unless there is an obviously wrong thing. I see there can be enough good in vaccinations to have them, though there is risk.

But for me as a Christian, I have >

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

So, to me this means I need to love each person, and not try to lord myself over anyone to pressure anyone to get a shot or not get a shot. Plus, knowing how ones can be bullied, if someone wears a mask and is the only one, I might put my mask on, to keep the person company or while talking with the person.

And I match how my lady friend chooses to take risks, since I am mainly sharing with her. And I stay with regulations where masks are requested or required.

So . . . my answer is "other" :) Mainly trust God to guide me, by the moment, in His peace, and be kind with everyone, and enjoy loving.
 
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Voted under certain conditions. There are already vaccine mandates for school and such with other vaccines, it is simply that to my knowledge it took a lot longer to implement, so I'd just want a longer time. Some of them I didn't get at all (like the HPV one which is newer AFAIK, I won't need it anyway even if it was old so I wouldn't get it). I am probably wrong on this though, I don't know vaccine mandate history.

Edit: having looked it up that current vaccine mandates that I fulfilled to go to school I was correct.
I should have been clearer I meant the current vaccines at this current time not a decade from now or anything.
 
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I support the right of any establishment to mandate Vaccinations of their employees or customer. But I do not support the Mandate itself.
You voted no in the poll. I meant no to mean that there is literally zero right to mandate the vaccine. That is why I listed the employer right to choose as an option.
 
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I read yesterday that as of about four days ago some 56% of American adults support some form of vaccine mandates; meanwhile over half 51% supported them as a condition for indoor dining.

Do you support them if so under what conditions?

I support a business owner's right to require them of employees and more and more I am supporting them as a condition of large gatherings think concerts, sports games and the like
Health insurance companies are probably pretty happy with vaccine mandates. Many people don't have insurance that will cover the cost of ICU care. Vaccines help keep people out of the hospital and out of the very expensive ICU care which can go on for months.
 
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Health insurance companies are probably pretty happy with vaccine mandates. Many people don't have insurance that will cover the cost of ICU care. Vaccines help keep people out of the hospital and out of the very expensive ICU care which can go on for months.
so do you support them?
 
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You voted no in the poll. I meant no to mean that there is literally zero right to mandate the vaccine. That is why I listed the employer right to choose as an option.
Your poll allows multiple selections. I vote no for supporting vaccine mandates and also voted "
support employer's right to enforce"

Maybe I was confused.....If you are asking whether I support the employer Right to mandate....I would of voted yes..... It is the idea of forcing others to take the vaccine in general, that I do not support. But I believe one should have to right to do so if the law allows.
 
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Do you support them if so under what conditions?

I support a business owner's right to require them of employees and more and more I am supporting them as a condition of large gatherings think concerts, sports games and the like

I know I answered in the other thread so I hope it s okay here too. This ^. I also support universal mandates but they may not work Constitutionally
 
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I do now during this pandemic but I don't want to see them as a permit mandate that can be abused.
Well that about anything can be abused. I am waiting to see if certain mandates go away when there gets to be way fewer cases and it stays that way.
 
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I know I answered in the other thread so I hope it s okay here too. This ^. I also support universal mandates but they may not work Constitutionally
It is a public forum so of course it is OK.
 
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Your poll allows multiple selections. I vote no for supporting vaccine mandates and also voted "
support employer's right to enforce"

Maybe I was confused.....If you are asking whether I support the employer Right to mandate....I would of voted yes..... It is the idea of forcing others to take the vaccine in general, that I do not support. But I believe one should have to right to do so if the law allows.
I meant for no to basically mean that it should be unlawful for any type of mandate. Again, maybe I should have been clearer.
 
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I meant for no to basically mean that it should be unlawful for any type of mandate. Again, maybe I should have been clearer.
Then my answers stand. I do believe that it should be unlawful to mandate that anyone inject anything into their bodies. But since it is lawful, I support the right for employers to do so.
 
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I support them in schools and workplaces that require close contact or contact with the public.

WE are in an age where freedom of movement has a cost

Only if you allow someone to take your Freedoms away.
 
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