Is there salvation without Mary?
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John 19:25 But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He *said to His mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27 Then He *said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” From that hour the disciple took her into his own household.
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Mark 3:19-21
Then he went home; and the crowd came together again, so that they could not even eat. And when his family heard it, they went out to seize him, for people were saying, “He is beside himself.”
John 7:2-5
Now the Jews’ feast of Tabernacles was at hand. So his brothers said to him, “Leave here and go to Judea, that your disciples may see the works you are doing. For no man works in secret if he seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world.” For even his brothers did not believe in him.
Matthew 20:20-21
Then the mother of the sons of Zeb′edee came up to him, with her sons, and kneeling before him she asked him for something. And he said to her, “What do you want?” She said to him, “Command that these two sons of mine may sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom.”
The above is consistent with them being Jesus' older siblings (Tradition holds that Salome is the daughter of Joseph). You claim they grew up in the same house, with Jesus as their older brother. The perfect man, who would have loved them and guided them with perfect wisdom and understanding. The impact He would have had on them would have been profound, which is not at all reflected in the Gospels.
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Mary had 2 other children besides Jesus. She was not a virgin when she died. Because of what Satan did with Eve and with the women to have created the Nephilim, he tainted our bloodline. Jesus says " You are of your father, the devil. " Jesus was the only man born of God, which is why He is perfect and without sin. We are born sinners because of satan. This is why we must be " born again".
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It is quite unfortunate that the four gospel writers teamed up to originate the rumors that Jesus Christ had brother and sisters.
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Joseph's children are indeed Christ's brothers and sisters, despite not coming from Mary's womb. What else do you think the Gospel writers would call them?
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She had at least SIX more, as 4 men are named in Scripture, and "sisters" are mentioned as well.
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Yes, it IS ! !
Matt. 13: 54 When He had come to His own country, He taught them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished and said, “Where did this Man get this wisdom and these mighty works? 55 Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? 56 And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this Man get all these things?”
Jesus had grown up there, living with Joseph & Mary the whole time. So, the Nazarenes certainly knew all about His earthly family. To deny God's word in order to try to justify a false RCC doctrine is WRONG !
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Read Matt. 13:54-56. They certainly WERE Mary's kids, ginen birth by her. Those Nazarenes knew His whole earthly family. as they'd lived there since Jesus was a toddler.
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Exactly! If they were just Joseph's kids by another woman, they would have been called his step-brothers and step-sisters. As it is all four gospel writers called them brothers and sisters.
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