Quantum Immortality Test

JohnEmmett said:

those in doubt seem unreal


because they will not deal with reality

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It’s only beneficial to make an appeal to “Reality” if reality is stable. Your “Mandela Effect Reality” by its own admission has no explanatory scope because it’s completely erratic, the ground of your “Reality” unpredictably shifts and moves all over the place. So it is pointless for you to make an appeal to reality for clarity of any kind, because the theory itself claims that there is no objective reality. What stable foundation stone of analysis does your “Reality” even give us? John’s reality conflicts with Sam’s reality which conflicts with Kylie’s reality which conflicts with Aaron’s reality according to the Mandela Effect…all that’s needed to justify anything at all with the theory is to just claim that you jumped to a different world again. It’s a bulletproof loophole.

The word “Reality” doesn’t work for your theory. You’re more suited for the radical claims of Heraclitus that nothing at all is stable, that you can never step in the same river twice. Think about it, your two axioms of knowledge are #1 - Common Memories. And #2 - that memories are totally relative and unrelated to each other because everyone’s memories are moving all over the place in different ways. Your foundational epistemological axioms defeat each other.

You keep moving the goalpost between your evidence being COMMON memories, and YOUR memories. If I challenge you that people individually have flawed memories you switch gears and claim that the appeal to COMMON memories are your proof for the Mandela Effect. But then if I challenge the self defeating claim that the Mandela Effect supports relative & contradictory public memories you then move the goalpost and insist that the proof lies in YOUR individual memories.

Strathos said:

I don't know why you guys even bother arguing with Mr. Emmett here. He literally has no points other than 'I'm right, you're wrong'. Even the flat earthers at least try to actually support their position with evidence.

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It's basically for the exercise and the lurkers (if any).

Vap841 said:

Lol not sure if I missed this part of the theory or if it’s a new twist and I’m just seeing it for the first time but I just saw commenters on YouTube who are alternate world flip floppers Haha. The one dude said he lived in the world where the Tiananmen Square tank stopped and didn’t run the guy over, but he moved to the new world where the tank runs him over, but now it seems he’s back again in the world where the tank stops lol.

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Yeah - I notice that these 'different worlds' almost always happen to differ by just the kind of trivial thing that cognitive & memory errors cause. You don't hear many (any?) people saying how glad they are to be out of that world where Hitler won World War II, or where there was a nuclear exchange between America & Russia in the 1960s & 70s, or a plague wiped out lots of people in the 1990s or 2000s...

JohnEmmett said:

The Faiyum Oasis is not trivial

New Zealand, Japan, India, not trivial

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C'mon John, integrate; context is relevant - these 'Mandela effects' rarely, if ever, involve significant repercussions beyond the observed difference itself; these people's lives are not significantly different with the change of memory. Why is that?

The reported memory differences seem like minor blips in history, not branching points - just as you'd expect from something misremembered, and not as you'd expect from a random changing of worldlines. That's the point.

JohnEmmett said:

Crazy theories that turned out to be true

"It sure sounded crazy … when the Ice Age theory was first proposed.

But like many radical theories about Earth's past, it was later proved to be true."

- Rachel J. Dickinson

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Therefore any conceivable fantasy could be true!

Well, science was the adjudicator - it was the discovery of evidence beyond reasonable doubt and the lack of reasonable alternative explanations for it, that established those discoveries. Abductively, there was no competition. And those discoveries were more unexpected than 'crazy' - don't let attention-seeking pop-sci headlines & articles mislead you.

Sadly, for the 'Mandela effect', the converse is true. Memory unreliability satisfies all the abductive criteria for the best explanation, hopping between worldlines satisfies none; it's not testable, has no predictive power, doesn't give an insight or understanding of the phenomenon, doesn't unify our understanding with other known phenomena, makes unnecessary assumptions, raises more questions than it answers - mostly unanswerable, and isn't consistent with our existing body of knowledge or even known physics (I think I already explained why multiverse theories are not the answer).

Sometimes the mundane answer just is the best explanation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

JohnEmmett said:

those in doubt seem unreal


because they will not deal with reality

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I'm not the one rejecting evidence from the real world and instead thinking that people travelling between different universes is the most plausible answers, mate.

JohnEmmett said:

Let me ask you then…

The names of the Four Horsemen

Death, Famine, War, ________?

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Pestilence.

Let me guess - you have no idea when it became Polution, right?

I also surmise that you are unaware that in Ezekiel, they were sword, famine, wild beasts and plague.

No idea what you think you're demonstrating other than your own ignorance.

JohnEmmett said:

Let me ask you then…

The names of the Four Horsemen

Death, Famine, War, ________?

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Are you just saying random things now?

JohnEmmett said:

because of the infinity of timelines

you will notice slight difference

but everything will be much the same

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If there is supposed to be an infinity of them, all possibilities will be there - why could they not be very different?

JohnEmmett said:

Sometimes you are too mundane to understand

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Says the fantasist...