The problem with Afghan Refugees

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So you're down to claiming that they're all lying? I think we've reached the endgame.

Minneapolis, MN – The U.S. Department of Justice announced riot charges on Friday against a suspect who is part of the anti-government Boogaloo movement after the suspect allegedly fired an AK-47 into the Minneapolis Police Department’s 3rd Precinct in May.


The criminal complaint filed by U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota Erica H. MacDonald said that a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) investigation had determined that 26-year-old Ivan Harrison Hunter had traveled from Texas to Minneapolis with the intent to participate in a riot, according to an Oct. 23 press release from the U.S. Department of Justice (DoJ).


Prosecutors said the investigation started after the FBI received a tip that Boogaloo Bois were maintaining an armed presence in Minneapolis during the George Floyd riots and had discussed committing violence in the city.
Feds Charge 'Boogaloo Boi' For Shooting Up Police Station During Minneapolis Riots - The Police Tribune


Right-wing terrorist kills police, is charged:
Two Defendants Charged with Murder and Aiding and Abetting in Slaying of Federal Protective Service Officer at Oakland Courthouse Building

Denial really won't do you any good here. Would you like to see some more? BTW, no one really thought you'd be able to show any evidence for those accusations. You're just making it clearer for us.

I didn't ask for the same old spam you keep posting. I asked for evidence. Spam is not evidence, it's a smokescreen.
 
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I didn't ask for the same old spam you keep posting.

You seem to regard evidence the way a vampire regards a crucifix. That should be a tip-off for you. Right now, you would be a lot more credible if you could come up with some evidence for your stories.

Your usual smokescreens aren't working for you.

I asked for evidence.

That's how warrants work. They have to have evidence. I assumed you knew. Just tossing up spam without any documentation ("in a video" or "black people") isn't working for you.

Spam is not evidence, it's a smokescreen.

There you go. Now, do something about it. Hint: get some facts.
 
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You seem to regard evidence the way a vampire regards a crucifix. That should be a tip-off for you. Right now, you would be a lot more credible if you could come up with some evidence for your stories.

Your usual smokescreens aren't working for you.



That's how warrants work. They have to have evidence. I assumed you knew. Just tossing up spam without any documentation ("in a video" or "black people") isn't working for you.



There you go. Now, do something about it. Hint: get some facts.

I'm still waiting for your evidence, but you keep posting spam, which is not evidence of anything other than the fact that your claims lack evidence.
 
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I'm still waiting for your evidence, but you keep posting spam,

If you consider news reports and law enforcement warrants and indictments to be "spam", we've located the problem.

You have a rather severe adverse reaction to facts. But you have to realize that without presenting some evidence, you're not going to do very well in these discussions.

Work on it.
 
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If you consider news reports and law enforcement warrants and indictments to be "spam", we've located the problem.

You have a rather severe adverse reaction to facts. But you have to realize that without presenting some evidence, you're not going to do very well in these discussions.

Work on it.

You've posted the exact same thing well over a dozen times. That's spam.
 
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You've posted the exact same thing well over a dozen times. That's spam.

You've posted the same errors again and again. If you don't want to be corrected again, all you have to do is stop doing it. As I said, if you consider news reports and law enforcement warrants and indictments to be "spam", we've located the problem.

The facts won't change; you'll keep seeing the same facts over and over again if you post the same errors again. Reality can be annoying, but it is real.
 
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Well great! Now I have a preview of what the Afghans that are already in my state are gonna have to be kept an eye on for. They can't even get through the process of being vetted before they start this kind of behavior. What happens once they're released into our neighborhoods? They won't be limited to 12 and 14 year old boys on a military base anymore.
These people are here while at least a hundred Americans are still stranded in Afghanistan.
 
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And therefore, because of George Nader, we should conclude all republicans are pedophiles. No, I don't think so.

I think the point is that if you were a refugee seeking asylum in a foreign nation,
the last thing on your mind would be to sexually abuse people.

Perhaps this was normal behavior in Afghanistan ? Lets face it, the culture in
Afghanistan for centuries has been based on brutality of the weak especially
women and children.
 
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Perhaps this was normal behavior in Afghanistan ? Lets face it, the culture in
Afghanistan for centuries has been based on brutality of the weak especially
women and children.

That was kind of the point of earlier stuff posted. They have been celebrating this stuff for centuries.

 
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The same argument could be made for republicans.

No it can't. I don't see Republicans keeping women out of school and beating them
with the law behind them. You're bias is keeping you blinded to reality.
 
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President Trump’s staff secretary, Rob Porter, quits after two ex-wives accuse him of abuse
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/07/tru...rter-quits-after-ex-wives-claim-violence.html


So there you are.
Don't know if he kept them out of school, though.


Accusations against wealthy men are often false and nothing ever developed from it.

Afghan culture's treatment of women is fact and was seen long before 9/11. The
women themselves who came to the West tell of how women are treated in most
of Afghan Culture, especially by the Taliban
 
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Accusations against wealthy men are often false and nothing ever developed from it.

I don't think "women who accuse men of abuse are liars" is going to be an adequate defense. And the far right's treatment of women has been noted for a long time. Women themselves have repeatedly pointed this fact out. Since the assumption was that an accusation against an Afghan refugee amounts to guilt of all Afghan refugees, by your standards, we should assume all republicans are abusers.
 
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I don't think "women who accuse men of abuse are liars" is going to be an adequate defense. And the far right's treatment of women has been noted for a long time. Women themselves have repeatedly pointed this fact out. Since the assumption was that an accusation against an Afghan refugee amounts to guilt of all Afghan refugees, by your standards, we should assume all republicans are abusers.

Why do you continue to defend what those Afghan refugees did to those children? Why do you keep responding with "Yeah but the Republicans are just as bad" comments?
 
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I don't think "women who accuse men of abuse are liars" is going to be an adequate defense. And the far right's treatment of women has been noted for a long time. Women themselves have repeatedly pointed this fact out. Since the assumption was that an accusation against an Afghan refugee amounts to guilt of all Afghan refugees, by your standards, we should assume all republicans are abusers.

Some are liars. The court ordered one woman to pay for Trump's legal costs as she could not provide
evidence that Trump actually abused her.

Heck, I saw a woman accuse a Trappist Monk of sexual abuse, despite the fact that he was dying of cancer and had spent 23 years in a communist prison before being release to the Trappists so he could die there.

I also saw other's falsely accused. Not all women lie about being sexually assaulted, but some do.
 
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Some are liars. The court ordered one woman to pay for Trump's legal costs as she could not provide
evidence that Trump actually abused her.

I believe Trump is still frantically trying to put off giving a cheek swab which would clear him if he was innocent of raping a woman who has now sued him for calling her a liar.

So there is that. If he was innocent, it's hard to see why he's spending all that money trying to avoid doing the one thing that could clear him and end the lawsuit.

And I very much doubt if the Trappist monk had been caught on an open microphone, bragging about how he got away with sexual assault of women.
 
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Why do you continue to defend what those Afghan refugees did to those children?

"Why did you defend that pedophile who was Trump's friend and advisor?" Yeah, I know, that's unfair, you never did that, right?

But you think it's O.K. to say I did that kind of thing, when I didn't? You are a Trump fan, aren't you?
 
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