Who are the Antichrist...?

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Who are the Antichrist...?

Deny the Christ came in the flesh, deny that He was just like the Father, and was the Father incarnate, that He was just a man that they may kind of love or be fond of, but not the Father incarnate, not the Messiah, not God the Father wrapped up in flesh, etc, also deny that He got His ideas or all He knew from any kind of God, or God the Spirit, or a Holy Spirit, and that He came up with all these ideas or these theories or the spiritual things He claimed to know about God and things all on His own, etc, also deny the resurrection and that He needed to die for people's sins, etc, may have a love for him, be fond of him, but also maybe think He was a bit deluded or deceived, etc, also may pity him, etc... But they are antichrist, etc...

Know not the Father or the Son... Because that kind of special revelation/knowledge only comes to those believing this (the above)... (or rather, the opposite of the above, etc)....

God Bless!
 

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i think that you are talking about people who have fallen for the spirit of the antichrist and are now under its influence. Such people need a lot of prayer. Where we have to curse the antichrist spirituality in their hearts and ask Jesus to raise them into newness of life.

John teaches us that there are many anti Christ spirits and that we have to test them with the word.

1 John 4:1-6
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.


Just check out the spirits of unbelief, doubting God's loving truth, lusting pleasures, greed, arrogance, dishonesty, envy, selfishness, despair, hopelessness, shamefulness, rage, hate, fearfulness. All such realities come to life in the human heart because we believe lies about God, ourselves and other people around us, and are antichrist in nature, i have learned to understand.

Antichrist spirituality denies the Son in flesh, so we may know that all that lives in the human heart which is not prepared to have life in Jesus' Spirit, is antichrist spirituality, and are numbered to go out of our lives in Him and with Him. Revelation 19 explains this spiritual process really nicely.

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i think that you are talking about people who have fallen for the spirit of the antichrist and are now under its influence. Such people need a lot of prayer. Where we have to curse the antichrist spirituality in their hearts and ask Jesus to raise them into newness of life.

John teaches us that there are many anti Christ spirits and that we have to test them with the word.

1 John 4:1-6
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.


Just check out the spirits of unbelief, doubting God's loving truth, lusting pleasures, greed, arrogance, dishonesty, envy, selfishness, despair, hopelessness, shamefulness, rage, hate, fearfulness. All such realities come to life in the human heart because we believe lies about God, ourselves and other people around us, and are antichrist in nature, i have learned to understand.

Antichrist spirituality denies the Son in flesh, so we may know that all that lives in the human heart which is not prepared to have life in Jesus' Spirit, is antichrist spirituality, and are numbered to go out of our lives in Him and with Him. Revelation 19 explains this spiritual process really nicely.

Peace.
Yes, this only has to be just be going on in yours or my or their hearts, etc... Believing; or rather not believing, or not being like this, only in their hearts, etc, or somewhat believing right, etc...

Have to at least know the Son like this, as the not only just Jesus Christ, but as Jesus "The Christ", etc, and "The True Christ and/or Messiah", and all that means, etc, but most especially in these aspects I am right now mentioning, etc...

Those need to be realized/reconciled/resolved in people's hearts now, or else, etc...

These are trying times, etc, and they are only going to get tougher, and if you have this secure, then you have a lot, etc...

God Bless!
 
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Who are the Antichrist...?

Deny the Christ came in the flesh, deny that He was just like the Father, and was the Father incarnate, that He was just a man that they may kind of love or be fond of, but not the Father incarnate, not the Messiah, not God the Father wrapped up in flesh, etc, also deny that He got His ideas or all He knew from any kind of God, or God the Spirit, or a Holy Spirit, and that He came up with all these ideas or these theories or the spiritual things He claimed to know about God and things all on His own, etc, also deny the resurrection and that He needed to die for people's sins, etc, may have a love for him, be fond of him, but also maybe think He was a bit deluded or deceived, etc, also may pity him, etc... But they are antichrist, etc...

Know not the Father or the Son... Because that kind of special revelation/knowledge only comes to those believing this (the above)... (or rather, the opposite of the above, etc)....

God Bless!

There has already come many antichrists as scripture says. There is also to come one final antichrist, that is said to have magic powers derived from the evil one. I think he will declare himself as the Messiah, and many will follow him. All this is hard to understand, and feels like taken from a horror movie. We just need to be on guard against false prophets.

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.
— 1 John 2:18


Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke as a dragon. He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men.
— Revelation 13:11-13

No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.
— 2 Corinthians 11:14-15
 
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There has already come many antichrists as scripture says. There is also to come one final antichrist, that is said to have magic powers derived from the evil one. I think he will declare himself as the Messiah, and many will follow him. All this is hard to understand, and feels like taken from a horror movie. We just need to be on guard against false prophets.

This usually starts from one thinking he is equal with Jesus, and therefore God, and therefore is a god/God, etc...

Guard your hearts!, etc...

You have to let people know that right now, your not like Jesus, though you might still aspire to one day be, etc...

But that, this side of life, you do not think you will ever ever fully be, not ever completely, etc...

Just something we have to all accept for now until we get there, etc...

Which is only ever going to fully be on the other side of life only, etc, "there" is only, etc...

And that is just the truth only...

Your not as "great" as Him, etc... Some days not even close, etc...

And this is our roller coaster ride... etc... not as great as Him, etc... Not nearly, or not all that close yet, etc...

God Bless!
 
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This usually starts from one thinking he is equal with Jesus, and therefore God, and therefore is a god/God, etc...

Guard your hearts!, etc...

You have to let people know that right now, your not like Jesus, though you might still aspire to one day be, etc...

But that, this side of life, you do not think you will ever ever fully be, not ever completely, etc...

Just something we have to all accept for now until we get there, etc...

Which is only ever going to fully be on the other side of life only, etc, "there" is only, etc...

And that is just the truth only...

Your not as "great" as Him, etc... Some days not even close, etc...

And this is our roller coaster ride... etc... not as great as Him, etc... Not nearly, or not all that close yet, etc...

God Bless!
I can say I'm not Him, because while I do maybe know a few or more things about Him, and the Father and the Spirit sometimes, etc, about Them, etc, I still cannot say for sure I know them all, all each in all their full detail always fully, etc...

I am never no more than a fellow servant of His along with you always, nothing more, etc...

And I should never forget that, etc...

Or, maybe "should I ever forget that" maybe, etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!
 
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Who are the Antichrist...?

Deny the Christ came in the flesh, deny that He was just like the Father, and was the Father incarnate, that He was just a man that they may kind of love or be fond of, but not the Father incarnate, not the Messiah, not God the Father wrapped up in flesh, etc, also deny that He got His ideas or all He knew from any kind of God, or God the Spirit, or a Holy Spirit, and that He came up with all these ideas or these theories or the spiritual things He claimed to know about God and things all on His own, etc, also deny the resurrection and that He needed to die for people's sins, etc, may have a love for him, be fond of him, but also maybe think He was a bit deluded or deceived, etc, also may pity him, etc... But they are antichrist, etc...

Know not the Father or the Son... Because that kind of special revelation/knowledge only comes to those believing this (the above)... (or rather, the opposite of the above, etc)....

God Bless!

In other words, antichrists were never drawn to the Father in the first place.

To be drawn to the Father, you first love the orderly world controlled by His Laws.
Then you're drawn to the 10 Commandments: The entry-way.
Then you believe Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Then you do what Jesus says because you love Him.

Matthew 5:19-20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [that] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Matthew 19:16-21 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And He said unto him, Why callest thou Me good? none good but one, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto Him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow Me.

John 12:44-50 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on Me, believeth not on Me, but on Him that sent Me. 45 And he that seeth Me seeth Him that sent Me. 46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on Me should not abide in darkness. 47 And if any man hear My words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He that rejecteth Me, and receiveth not My words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49 For I have not spoken of Myself; but the Father which sent Me, He gave Me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that His Commandment is Life Everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto Me, so I speak.

Matthew 7:24-27 Therefore whosoever heareth these words of Mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon this rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon this rock.

Matthew 16:15-18 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but My Father which is in Heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art petros, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

petros = a (piece of) rock, (larger than lithos, a stone)
petra = a (mass of) rock

See what this is really saying?

ho = the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.
So, the translations that say "a rock" are deceptive.
In Greek, "a" is either a negative particle or means union.
It's not the definite article that the English makes it.
 
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Who are the Antichrist...?

Deny the Christ came in the flesh, deny that He was just like the Father, and was the Father incarnate, that He was just a man that they may kind of love or be fond of, but not the Father incarnate, not the Messiah, not God the Father wrapped up in flesh, etc, also deny that He got His ideas or all He knew from any kind of God, or God the Spirit, or a Holy Spirit, and that He came up with all these ideas or these theories or the spiritual things He claimed to know about God and things all on His own, etc, also deny the resurrection and that He needed to die for people's sins, etc, may have a love for him, be fond of him, but also maybe think He was a bit deluded or deceived, etc, also may pity him, etc... But they are antichrist, etc...

Know not the Father or the Son... Because that kind of special revelation/knowledge only comes to those believing this (the above)... (or rather, the opposite of the above, etc)....

God Bless!

That's the traditional idea of 'antichrist', but it's not completely accurate per God's Holy Writ. Don't get me wrong, those identifiers you list are written.

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

KJV

That first occurrence of "antichrist" is in the singular tense. It's about a certain one, 'the antichrist'.

But the second mention is about "many antichrists", i.e., servants of 'the antichrist'.

This is why John says, "even now are there many antichrists", which links to Paul's idea here...

2 Thess 2:7
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

KJV

What that's about is the Devil as the "antichrist", and the "many antichrists" as his followers that are already at work here on earth.


Lord Jesus showed the same idea in Matthew 24 but it's easy to miss...

Matt 24:4-5
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, 'Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in My name, saying, "I am Christ"; and shall deceive many.
KJV


Over the centuries, there's already been many that claimed to be Jesus Christ; those are like the "many antichrists" already at work.

Matt 24:23-26
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, 'Lo, here is Christ, or there'; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, 'Behold, He is in the desert'; go not forth: 'behold, He is in the secret chambers'; believe it not.
KJV


The above though, that is about a singular "antichrist" that others... will claim is Christ and will believe it. We are not to believe on that false Christ when he shows up in Jerusalem at the end of this world.

This is the actual subject by John, and Apostle Paul, and Lord Jesus, about the idea of antichrist. The word "antichrist" is actually two words in the Greek, 'anti' which can mean 'instead of', or 'in place of', and Christos, which means 'Christ'. Thus the idea behind the word antichrist means the 'instead of Christ', or 'in place of Christ'

Now just who... would want to place himself in Christ's Seat, and work great signs and wonders to fool the majority of the whole world into believing it?
 
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