Old Covenant vs. New Covenant Leadership in the Church

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There is no mention of time zones in the 4th commandment. Exodus 20:8-11
Sister, the time zone is present in the commandment in the sense that it takes you back to the creation week where God made the Seventh day "Holy" in that time zone. The Sabbath is the seventh day of Eden and not the seventh day of the week in Israel, where it falls 10 hours earlier than the local seventh day of the week because remembered it is in the Eden time zone.

Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. (Exodus 20:8-11 NIV)​

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Brother, those led by the Spirit must understand that when the Holy Spirit is quiet on Sunday versus Sabbath, it is not because He does not care what day you "rest", but that the truth about the Sabbath has not been found for the Holy Spirit to help us separate truth from error. Hebrews 4 says that during the 40 years that Israel kept the Seventh-day Sabbath with manna from morning to morning, that Sabbath was not the "rest" that God kept on the seventh day of creation. It would have been God's "rest" if Israel were in Eden, but not near the promised land where the Sabbath falls from evening to evening and not from morning to morning as in Eden.

There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience. (Hebrews 4:9-11 NIV)​

The "rest" that God wants us to enter is the "rest" of the Sabbath because it is the only "rest" that we know that God kept. We are called above to enter the "rest" of ceasing from our own works "just as God did from His" on the seventh day of creation.

For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.” (Hebrews 4:4 NIV)​

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Hebrews 4 is not about the Saturday weekly sabbath.
 
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Hebrews 4 is not about the Saturday weekly sabbath.
Brother, you cannot support that the "rest" in Hebrews is anything other than the "rest" of the Sabbath with what Hebrews tells us. I can support with Scripture that God's "rest" in Hebrews is the true "rest" of the Sabbath that those "whose corpses lay in the wilderness" did not enter. The "oath" in Hebrews 3 and 4 made it clear with the manna that the seventh day of the week is not God's Sabbath "rest" near the Promised Land. In Israel, the Sabbath is not a day of the week from morning to morning, as established were the days of the week in Genesis. Evening to evening is not a day of the week and the Sabbath in Israel falls between two days of the week. Those before Jesus "whose corpses lay in the wilderness" could not have entered what was still future. We must enter the "rest" in which they had not entered for 40 years by "oath" due to their disobedience. The only "rest" available to them as for us is the "rest" on the Sabbath.

And who made God angry for forty years? Wasn’t it the people who sinned, whose corpses lay in the wilderness? And to whom was God speaking when he took an oath that they would never enter his rest? Wasn’t it the people who disobeyed him? So we see that because of their unbelief they were not able to enter his rest. (Hebrews 3:17-19 NLT)​

The "rest" they could have entered into as we "can" is the Sabbath "rest".

For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” (Hebrews 4:3-4 NLT)​

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The early church, such as Barnabas, taught the sabbath-millennial doctrine, which is that God took six days for creation (instead of the split second He could easily have done it in) and then rested on the seventh day,as the prophetical foreshadow of their being six thousand years, or six days, between Adam and the return of Jesus, with the thousand year millennial reign of Jesus being the seventh day aka Gods rest for His people, that remains.

Hebrews 4 alludes to that millennial rest, calling it the REST THAT REMAINS, and saying that no one has entered into that rest yet.

Obviously the seventh day sabbath command can’t be a future rest that remains, because it’s been in effect as a command to the nation of Israel, since it was given to Moses on Mount Sinai.

Modern English bibles make that passage more understandable:

Heb 4:8 If Joshua had really given the people rest, there would not be any need for God to talk about another day of rest.

Heb 4:9 But God has promised us a Sabbath when we will rest, even though it has not yet come.

Heb 4:10 On that day God's people will rest from their work, just as God rested from his work.

Sabbath just means REST by the way.

God has promised us a sabbath (rest) that is yet to come - the millennial reign of Jesus on the earth.
 
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Where do you rest from your works in attempting to keep the Sinai Covenant?

Are you come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18, instead of to the New Covenant of Mount Zion in Hebrews 12:22-24?

Have you failed to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage" from Galatians 4:24-31?

Are you still placing your faith in the Old Covenant now made "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13?

I now rest in the "Gospel", which is found in Hebrews chapter 4.
I do believe in the rest Jesus Christ has given me, instead of my dead works.

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That’s exactly right but I’ve found sabbath keepers won’t read the relevant scriptures.

Also in 2 Corinthians 3 Paul says they are minsters of the new covenant of the spirit that brings life, which He compares with the ten commands given to Moses on the mountain, which is the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation, which past glory has ended.

So it’s the letter that kills, condemns and brings death, versus the ministry of the spirit, which gives life.

The covenant was given to Moses and three thousand Israelites died, while the new covenant church started in Acts 2, and three thousand were born again and made alive.

The letter kills, but the spirit gives life.
 
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while its true that God rested one time after 6 days of creation, He never COMMANDED anyone to keep the sabbath as a law - until He gave it to Israel as a memorial of remembrance, of being set free from Egyptian slavery after their Exodus - and as a covenant sign only between the nation of Israel, and Himself:


Deu 5:15 And thou shalt remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and Jehovah thy God brought thee out thence by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm: therefore Jehovah thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.


REMEMBER that YOU (Israel) were slaves in Egypt and I took you out with a mighty hand and outstretched arm, THEREFORE (because of your deliverance from Egyptian slavery) I gave YOU (Israel) this sabbath day command.


That wouldn’t be much of a memorial of REMEMBRANCE and a covenant SIGN - as God calls the sabbath day command in Exodus 31:13 - to give them a command that was ALREADY kept since the 6th day of creation, now would it?


Obviously not.


In fact Moses refutes the claim that any of their ancestors already had the sabbath day command, when he was about to give Israel the covenant law God gave to them, which includes the Decalogue:


Note the chapter heading in the Bible for this passage:


The Ten Commandments.


Deu 5:1 And Moses called unto all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and the ordinances which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may LEARN them, and observe to DO them.


Deu 5:2 Jehovah our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.


Deu 5:3 Jehovah made NOT this covenant with our fathers, but with US - even us, who are all of us here alive THIS day.


No one had the covenant law and ten commands until Moses received them after the Exodus from Egypt, as proven by Moses telling them THEY HAD TO LEARN THEM and then DO them, and said neither THEY nor their FATHERS had that law and commands until then.


In fact Paul made it known that the law was not given until 430 years AFTER Abraham lived, which is when Moses received it - and therefore was not given in Eden:


Gal 3:16 Now, God made his promises to Abraham and to his descendant. The scripture does not use the plural "descendants," meaning many people, but the singular "descendant," meaning one person only, namely, Christ.

Gal 3:17 What I mean is that God made a covenant with Abraham and promised to keep it. The Law, which was given four hundred and thirty years later, cannot break that covenant and cancel God's promise.

Gal 3:18 For if God's gift depends on the Law, then it no longer depends on his promise. However, it was because of his promise that God gave that gift to Abraham.

Gal 3:19 What, then, was the purpose of the Law? It was added in order to show what wrongdoing is, and it was meant to last until the coming of Abraham's descendant, to whom the promise was made. (Jesus) The Law was handed down by angels, with a man acting as a go-between.

Gal 3:20 But a go-between is not needed when only one person is involved; and God is one.

Gal 3:21 Does this mean that the Law is against God's promises? No, not at all! For if human beings had received a law that could bring life, then everyone could be put right with God by obeying it.

Gal 3:22 But the scripture says that the whole world is under the power of sin; and so the gift which is promised on the basis of faith in Jesus Christ is given to those who believe.

Gal 3:23 But before the time for faith came, the Law kept us all locked up as prisoners until this coming faith should be revealed.

Gal 3:24 And so the Law was in charge of us until Christ came, in order that we might then be put right with God through faith.

Gal 3:25 Now that the time for faith is here, the Law is no longer in charge of us.

Gal 3:26 It is through faith that all of you are God's children in union with Christ Jesus.


Now, here’s the fact that the sabbath day command was a covenant sign only between God and the nation of Israel:


Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of ISRAEL, saying, Verily YE shall keep my sabbaths: for it is A SIGN between ME and YOU throughout YOUR generations; that ye may know that I am Jehovah who sanctifieth YOU.



Every SDA needs to read 2 Corinthians chapter three, where Paul says the apostles are the ministers of the new covenant and the law of the Spirit that gives life, which he compares with the ten commands, given to Moses on the mountain, that brings death..


The Ten Commands are called the ministration of DEATH, the letter which KILLS, and the ministration of CONDEMNATION.


2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the NEW testament; not of the letter, but of the SPIRIT : for the letter KILLETH , but the spirit giveth life.

2Co 3:7 But if the ministration OF DEATH written andengraven in stones (The Ten Commandments) was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glorywas to be DONE AWAY:

2Co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation beglory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

2Co 3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

2Co 3:11 For if that which is DONE AWAY wasglorious, much more that which remaineth isglorious.


The reason the Ten commands kills, brings death, and condemnation, and has been done away, is due to the fact that the penalty under the law for breaking any of the Ten, was being put to death by stoning.


The penalty for homicide - being put to death by stoning:

Exo 21:12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.


The penalty for not honoring your mother and father: put to death by stoning:

Lev 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put todeath: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall beupon him.


The penalty for adultery: put to death by stoning:

Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with anotherman's wife, even hethat committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.


The penalty for breaking the sabbath by doing any work, such as picking up sticks for kindling: put to death by stoning:

Exo 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it isholy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth anywork therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.


If the Ten Commands are still in effect, the penalty for breaking them is still in effect, thus those who insist on keeping the ended covenant that contained the Ten Commands, are breaking the law themselves, by not stoning to death those who break the commands.


You can't have one without the other.

Imagine you were doing a ride along with a police officer, and you see that he ignores traffic law violations: speeding, running red lights, reckless driving, drunk driving, etc.


During the conversation you have with the officer, he says, "yes, I believe in the traffic laws. I keep those laws, myself - I just don't enforce them".


Sabbath day keepers, and Ten Commandment keepers are saying, those commands are still in effect and we keep them, but we don't enforce the law, as is required BY the law.


The ten commands ended when the old covenant ended, because the ten are called “the covenant on two tables of stone” in scripture - thus when the old covenant ended, the ten commands ended with it - including the fourth command.


Deu 9:11 And it came to pass at the end of forty days and forty nights, thatthe LORD gave me the two tables of stone, eventhe tables of the covenant.
 
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God has promised us a sabbath (rest) that is yet to come - the millennial reign of Jesus on the earth.
Brother, the contemporary English Version (CEV) you chose removes the verb "oath" in the original language, which clarifies who compared we are to as those "whose corpses lay in the wilderness" for 40 years due to an "oath". We must enter the "rest" in which they had not entered for 40 years by "oath" due to their disobedience. The only "rest" available to them as for us is the "rest" on the Sabbath.

And who made God angry for forty years? Wasn’t it the people who sinned, whose corpses lay in the wilderness? And to whom was God speaking when he took an oath (3660) that they would never enter his rest? Wasn’t it the people who disobeyed him? So we see that because of their unbelief they were not able to enter his rest. (Hebrews 3:17-19 NLT)​

The "rest" that they could have entered as we "can" is the Sabbath "rest".

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath (3660): ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” (Hebrews 4:1-4 NLT)​

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Honestly I wish you would consider the harm you are doing to the Seventh day Adventist church by spreading so much misinformation. The SDA church is united in its 28 fundamental beliefs What do Seventh Day Adventists Really Believe? - Adventist.org previously you stated you do not believe in the 28 and said you do not attend SDA church nor have a pastor. I wish you would consider sharing your own beliefs instead of sharing beliefs on behalf of the Seventh day Adventist church that are outside of it's official 28. If you don't believe in everything the church stands for that's fine but please stop speaking on behalf of the church.

This is the Official stance on the Sabbath of the SDA church so there is no confusion to other posters.

What Adventists Believe about the Sabbath - Adventist.org
The gracious Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God’s unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God’s kingdom. The Sabbath is God’s perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God’s creative and redemptive acts. (Gen. 2:1-3; Exod. 20:8-11; 31:13-17; Lev. 23:32; Deut. 5:12-15; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Ezek. 20:12, 20; Matt. 12:1-12; Mark 1:32; Luke 4:16; Heb. 4:1-11.)
Do you not allow your members to express diversity of thought?
 
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Brother, the contemporary English Version (CEV) you chose removes the verb "oath" in the original language, which clarifies who compared we are to as those "whose corpses lay in the wilderness" for 40 years due to an "oath". We must enter the "rest" in which they had not entered for 40 years by "oath" due to their disobedience. The only "rest" available to them as for us is the "rest" on the Sabbath.

And who made God angry for forty years? Wasn’t it the people who sinned, whose corpses lay in the wilderness? And to whom was God speaking when he took an oath (3660) that they would never enter his rest? Wasn’t it the people who disobeyed him? So we see that because of their unbelief they were not able to enter his rest. (Hebrews 3:17-19 NLT)​

The "rest" that they could have entered as we "can" is the Sabbath "rest".

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath (3660): ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” (Hebrews 4:1-4 NLT)​

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There is a rest that remains that no one has entered into.

That is not the weekly sabbath.
 
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There is a rest that remains that no one has entered into. That is not the weekly sabbath.
Brother, the "rest" is not future because God has set the "time for entering His rest" as "today", announced in the time of David to call us to correct the Saturday-tradition of Judaism since the writing of Hebrews. The "rest" spoken of in Hebrews 3 and 4 "has been ready since He made the world". God did not give them this "rest" for 40 years with manna, them keeping a seventh day Sabbath from morning to morning which was correct in Eden, but not near the Promised Land until they reached the Promised Land and kept a Sabbath from evening to evening that is not a day of the week as defined in Genesis from morning to morning because the Sabbath remembered is in the time zone of Eden. Although God gave them His Sabbath in the Promised Land, under Joshua they did not understand the "rest" of God's Sabbath to keep the Sabbath outside the time zone of the Promised Land. To correct this misunderstanding since Joshua, "God set another time for entering His rest, and that time is today", in the new covenant with the call in Hebrews 3 and 4 to keep God's true Sabbath "rest". The "rest" that God wants us to enter "today", in the new covenant when believers find themselves living outside the time zone of the Promised Land, "has been ready since He made the world".

For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God. Everything is naked and exposed before his eyes, and he is the one to whom we are accountable. (Hebrews 4:3-13 NLT)​

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To correct this misunderstanding since Joshua, "God set another time for entering His rest, and that time is today", in the new covenant with the call in Hebrews 3 and 4 to keep God's true Sabbath "rest". The "rest" that God wants us to enter "today", in the new covenant when believers find themselves living outside the time zone of the Promised Land, "has been ready since He made the world".

Do you understand the difference between the Gospel and a day of the week?


Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.


Heb 8:13 In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

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Do you understand the difference between the Gospel and a day of the week?
Brother, let the passage tell you what it means and not what the translators of the King James Version assumed was the Gospel, by capitalizing it, when it doesn't fit the context. The translators also incorrectly assumed that Joshua was Jesus.

For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. (Hebrews 4:2 NLT)​
Heb 8:13 In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Don't assume you know what was wrong with the previous covenant! Based on what the Bible tells us, what wasn't working was trusting us to "remember" God's law. Now it is the job of the Holy Spirit to remind us of the law so that those of us, like Josiah, will turn to the Lord more quickly, because we "share the faith of those who listened to God" without the need to find the book of law in the temple of the Lord.

Josiah was eight years old when he became king. He ruled in Jerusalem for 31 years … Josiah did what was right in the eyes of the Lord. He lived the way King David had lived. He didn’t turn away from it to the right or the left … The king heard the words of the Book of the Law. When he did, he tore his royal robes … “Your heart was tender. You made yourself humble in the eyes of the Lord. You heard what I spoke against this place and its people. I said they would be under a curse. I told them they would be destroyed. You tore your royal robes and wept in front of me. And I have heard you,” announces the Lord. “You will join the members of your family who have already died. You will be buried in peace. Your eyes will not see all the trouble I am going to bring on this place” ... He got rid of everything else the Lord hates that was in Judah and Jerusalem. He did it to carry out what the law required. That law was written in the book that Hilkiah the priest had found in the Lord’s temple. There was no king like Josiah either before him or after him. None of them turned to the Lord as he did. He obeyed the Lord with all his heart and all his soul. He obeyed him with all his strength. He did everything the Law of Moses required. (2 Kings 22:1-2, 11, 19-20, 23:24-25 NIV)​

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Brother, let the passage tell you what it means and not what the translators of the King James Version assumed was the Gospel, by capitalizing it, when it doesn't fit the context. The translators also incorrectly assumed that Joshua was Jesus.

For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. (Hebrews 4:2 NLT)


Do you understand the fact that the Gospel is the "good news" that Christ has done for us what we could not do for ourselves?


If you do not like what the Bible says, do you blame the translators?


Gal 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
Gal 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Gal 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?


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Do you understand the fact that the Gospel is the "good news" that Christ has done for us what we could not do for ourselves? If you do not like what the Bible says, do you blame the translators?
Brother, these are two different words used in a different part of speech! The New Living Translation translates these two words better than the King James Version translators did when they did not capitalize the noun to differentiate it from the verb as shown.

For this good news (Verb)—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. (Hebrews 4:2 NLT)​

The word above that is not capitalized is not the same word below in the original language that is capitalized in the New Living Translation (NLT).

And the Good News (Noun) about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:14 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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Brother, these are two different words used in a different part of speech! The New Living Translation translates these two words better than the King James Version translators did when they did not capitalize the noun to differentiate it from the verb as shown.

For this good news (Verb)—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. (Hebrews 4:2 NLT)​

The word above that is not capitalized is not the same word below in the original language that is capitalized in the New Living Translation (NLT).

And the Good News (Noun) about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:14 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge



(KJV+) ForG1063 unto us(G2532) was the gospel preached,G2070 G2097 as well asG2509 unto them:G2548 butG235 theG3588 wordG3056 preachedG189 did notG3756 profitG5623 them,G1565 notG3361 being mixed withG4786 faithG4102 in them that heardG191 it.


G2097
εὐαγγελίζω
euaggelizō
yoo-ang-ghel-id'-zo
From G2095 and G32; to announce good news (“evangelize”) especially the gospel: - declare, bring (declare, show) glad (good) tidings, preach (the gospel).
Total KJV occurrences: 55



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to announce good news (“evangelize”) especially the gospel
Brother, happy Sabbath! The "rest" cannot be the gospel of the kingdom of Jesus because it wasn't available for "them" to "enter".

For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. (Hebrews 4:2 NLT)​

The answer to who "them" are is found below. Those who were not allowed to "enter" God's "rest" for 40 years "whose corpses lay in the wilderness" by oath for their disobedience. The gospel of the kingdom of Jesus was not available to "them" to make it the "rest" they did not "enter" for 40 years.

And who was it who rebelled against God, even though they heard his voice? Wasn’t it the people Moses led out of Egypt? And who made God angry for forty years? Wasn’t it the people who sinned, whose corpses lay in the wilderness? And to whom was God speaking when he took an oath that they would never enter his rest? Wasn’t it the people who disobeyed him? So we see that because of their unbelief they were not able to enter his rest. (Hebrews 3:16-19 NLT)​

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Brother, happy Sabbath! The "rest" cannot be the gospel of the kingdom of Jesus because it wasn't available to "them" to "enter".

For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. (Hebrews 4:2 NLT)

Are you claiming none of the Israelites during the time of Moses have eternal life?
How about Joshua, and Caleb?


If you are, please read Hebrews chapter 11.


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Are you claiming none of the Israelites during the time of Moses have eternal life? How about Joshua, and Caleb? If you are, please read Hebrews chapter 11.
Brother, even most of those "whose corpses lay in the wilderness" for 40 years have eternal life, because they obeyed God during the 40 years of manna, but because of their disobedience before having manna they were not allowed to enter the "rest" of God's Sabbath for those 40 years. With manna they were keeping the wrong Sabbath near the Promised Land. They were punished and not destroyed. United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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Brother, even most of those "whose corpses lay in the wilderness" for 40 years have eternal life, because they obeyed God during the 40 years of manna, but because of their disobedience before having manna they were not allowed to enter the "rest" of God's Sabbath for those 40 years.

How many of those people in the Old Testament actually kept the ten commandments perfectly?

Zero.

King David committed adultery, and conspired to have Uriah killed.


See Hebrews chapter 11, which is the Faith chapter.


Only Christ has ever kept the commandments perfectly.


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Early Church Fathers who lived before the Council of Nicaea comment on the Sabbath:
Friend, what were "the Scriptures" that were able, Paul said, to make Timothy wise unto salvation? All there was then was what we have as The Old Testament. When weighing out any of the "Church Fathers" after John died, keep in mind that John and Peter warned about the wolves ready to destroy the Flock and deceive the Elect. Jesus said His sheep hear His voice. Are you sure Ignatius and the others had authority for the significant directional shifts they instituted? Is there any rationale that God Who spoke what man can live by would actually change His mind on such important matters? It might be worth considering. God Himself says He doesnt lie or change. You can study and ground yourself in what He said to mankind and determine for yourself if you want to believe Him.

Ignatius of Antioch

If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death—whom some deny, by which mystery we have obtained faith, and therefore endure, that we may be found the disciples of Jesus Christ, our only Master(Letter to the Magnesians(shorter) Chapter IX.—Let us live with Christ [A.D. 110]).

During the Sabbath He continued under the earth in the tomb in which Joseph of Arimathæa had laid Him. At the dawning of the Lord’s day He arose from the dead, according to what was spoken by Himself, “As Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man also be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” The day of the preparation, then, comprises the passion; the Sabbath embraces the burial; the Lord’s Day contains the resurrection(The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians Longer Versions. Chapter IX.—Reference to the history of Christ.)

Justin Martyr

The Lawgiver is present, yet you do not see Him; to the poor the Gospel is preached, the blind see, yet you do not understand. You have now need of a second circumcision, though you glory greatly in the flesh. The new law requires you to keep perpetual sabbath, and you, because you are idle for one day, suppose you are pious, not discerning why this has been commanded you: and if you eat unleavened bread, you say the will of God has been fulfilled. The Lord our God does not take pleasure in such observances: if there is any perjured person or a thief among you, let him cease to be so; if any adulterer, let him repent; then he has kept the sweet and true sabbaths of God. If any one has impure hands, let him wash and be pure.(Dialogue with Trypho the Jew Chapter XII.—The Jews violate the eternal law, and interpret ill that of Moses.)

For we too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined you,—namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your hearts. For if we patiently endure all things contrived against us by wicked men and demons, so that even amid cruelties unutterable, death and torments, we pray for mercy to those who inflict such things upon us, and do not wish to give the least retort to any one, even as the new Lawgiver commanded us: how is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us, —I speak of fleshly circumcision, and Sabbaths, and feasts?(Dialogue with Trypho the Jew Chapter XVIII.—Christians would observe the law, if they did not know why it was instituted. [A.D. 155]).

And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday,1 all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.(First Apology Chapter LXVII.—Weekly worship of the Christians. [A.D. 155]).

“Wherefore, Trypho, I will proclaim to you, and to those who wish to become proselytes, the divine message which I heard from that man. Do you see that the elements are not idle, and keep no Sabbaths? Remain as you were born. For if there was no need of circumcision before Abraham, or of the observance of Sabbaths, of feasts and sacrifices, before Moses; no more need is there of them now, after that, according to the will of God, Jesus Christ the Son of God has been born without sin, of a virgin sprung from the stock of Abraham. For when Abraham himself was in uncircumcision, he was justified and blessed by reason of the faith which he reposed in God, as the Scripture tells. Moreover, the Scriptures and the facts themselves compel us to admit that He received circumcision for a sign, and not for righteousness.(The Second Apology of Justin for the Christians Addressed to the Roman Senate. Chapter XXIII.—The opinion of the Jews regarding the law does an injury to God.)

“As, then, circumcision began with Abraham, and the Sabbath and sacrifices and offerings and feasts with Moses, and it has been proved they were enjoined on account of the hardness of your people’s heart, so it was necessary, in accordance with the Father’s will, that they should have an end in Him who was born of a virgin, of the family of Abraham and tribe of Judah, and of David; in Christ the Son of God, who was proclaimed as about to come to all the world, to be the everlasting law and the everlasting covenant, even as the forementioned prophecies show.(The Second Apology of Justin for the Christians Addressed to the Roman Senate. Chapter XLIII.—He concludes that the law had an end in Christ, who was born of the Virgin.)

Tertullian

“[L]et him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day . . . teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges? . . . Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1–7, Heb. 11:4]. . . . Noah also, uncircumcised—yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath—God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God”(An Answer to the Jews Chapter II.—The Law Anterior to Moses. [A.D. 203]).

It follows, accordingly, that, in so far as the abolition of carnal circumcision and of the old law is demonstrated as having been consummated at its specific times, so also the observance of the Sabbath is demonstrated to have been temporary.For the Jews say, that from the beginning God sanctified the seventh day, by resting on it from all His works which He made; and that thence it was, likewise, that Moses said to the People: “Remember the day of the sabbaths, to sanctify it: every servile work ye shall not do therein, except what pertaineth unto life.” Whence we (Christians) understand that we still more ought to observe a sabbath from all “servile work” always, and not only every seventh day, but through all time. And through this arises the question for us, what sabbath God willed us to keep? For the Scriptures point to a sabbath eternal and a sabbath temporal. For Isaiah the prophet says, “Your sabbaths my soul hateth;” and in another place he says, “My sabbaths ye have profaned.”9 Whence we discern that the temporal sabbath is human, and the eternal sabbath is accounted divine; concerning which He predicts through Isaiah: “And there shall be,” He says, “month after month, and day after day, and sabbath after sabbath; and all flesh shall come to adore in Jerusalem, saith the Lord;” which we understand to have been fulfilled in the times of Christ, when “all flesh”—that is, every nation—“came to adore in Jerusalem” God the Father, through Jesus Christ His Son, as was predicted through the prophet: “Behold, proselytes through me shall go unto Thee.” Thus, therefore, before this temporal sabbath, there was withal an eternal sabbath foreshown and foretold; just as before the carnal circumcision there was withal a spiritual circumcision foreshown. In short, let them teach us, as we have already premised, that Adam observed the sabbath; or that Abel, when offering to God a holy victim, pleased Him by a religious reverence for the sabbath; or that Enoch, when translated, had been a keeper of the sabbath; or that Noah the ark-builder observed, on account of the deluge, an immense sabbath; or that Abraham, in observance of the sabbath, offered Isaac his son; or that Melchizedek in his priesthood received the law of the sabbath

But the Jews are sure to say, that ever since this precept was given through Moses, the observance has been binding. Manifest accordingly it is, that the precept was not eternal nor spiritual, but temporary, which would one day cease. In short, so true is it that it is not in the exemption from work of the sabbath—that is, of the seventh day—that the celebration of this solemnity is to consist, that Joshua the son of Nun, at the time that he was reducing the city Jericho by war, stated that he had received from God a precept to order the People that priests should carry the ark of the testament of God seven days, making the circuit of the city; and thus, when the seventh day’s circuit had been performed, the walls of the city would spontaneously fall. Which was so done; and when the space of the seventh day was finished, just as was predicted, down fell the walls of the city. Whence it is manifestly shown, that in the number of the seven days there intervened a sabbath-day. For seven days, whencesoever they may have commenced, must necessarily include within them a sabbath-day; on which day not only must the priests have worked, but the city must have been made a prey by the edge of the sword by all the people of Israel. Nor is it doubtful that they “wrought servile work,” when, in obedience to God’s precept, they drave the preys of war. For in the times of the Maccabees, too, they did bravely in fighting on the sabbaths, and routed their foreign foes, and recalled the law of their fathers to the primitive style of life by fighting on the sabbaths. Nor should I think it was any other law which they thus vindicated, than the one in which they remembered the existence of the prescript touching “the day of the sabbaths.” Whence it is manifest that the force of such precepts was temporary, and respected the necessity of present circumstances; and that it was not with a view to its observance in perpetuity that God formerly gave them such a law.(An Answer to the Jews Chapter IV.—Of the Observance of the Sabbath.)

Therefore, since it is manifest that a sabbath temporal was shown, and a sabbath eternal foretold; a circumcision carnal foretold, and a circumcision spiritual pre-indicated; a law temporal and a law eternal formally declared; sacrifices carnal and sacrifices spiritual foreshown; it follows that, after all these precepts had been given carnally, in time preceding, to the people Israel, there was to supervene a time whereat the precepts of the ancient Law and of the old ceremonies would cease, and the promise3 of the new law, and the recognition of spiritual sacrifices, and the promise of the New Testament, supervene;4 while the light from on high would beam upon us who were sitting in darkness, and were being detained in the shadow of death.5 And so there is incumbent on us a necessity6 binding us, since we have premised that a new law was predicted by the prophets, and that not such as had been already given to their fathers at the time when He led them forth from the land of Egypt,7 to show and prove, on the one hand, that that old Law has ceased, and on the other, that the promised new law is now in operation.

And, indeed, first we must inquire whether there be expected a giver of the new law, and an heir of the new testament, and a priest of the new sacrifices, and a purger of the new circumcision, and an observer of the eternal sabbath, to suppress the old law, and institute the new testament, and offer the new sacrifices, and repress the ancient ceremonies, and suppress8 the old circumcision together with its own sabbath, and announce the new kingdom which is not corruptible. Inquire, I say, we must, whether this giver of the new law, observer of the spiritual sabbath, priest of the eternal sacrifices, eternal ruler of the eternal kingdom, be come or no: that, if he is already come, service may have to be rendered him; if he is not yet come, he may have to be awaited, until by his advent it be manifest that the old Law’s precepts are suppressed, and that the beginnings of the new law ought to arise. And, primarily, we must lay it down that the ancient Law and the prophets could not have ceased, unless He were come who was constantly announced, through the same Law and through the same prophets, as to come.(An Answer to the Jews Chapter VI.—Of the Abolition and the Abolisher of the Old Law. [A.D. 203]).

But you, many of you, also under pretence sometimes of worshipping the heavenly bodies, move your lips in the direction of the sunrise. In the same way, if we devote Sun-day to rejoicing, from a far different reason than Sun-worship, we have some resemblance to those of you who devote the day of Saturn to ease and luxury, though they too go far away from Jewish ways, of which indeed they are ignorant.(Apology Chapter XVI.)

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