Teacher Resigns After Parent Complains Pride Flag Is "Personal Agenda"

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Admiring the teachers is not the problem, it's acting like their success is comparable to today or that the successes are the rule rather than the exception. They worked within a gamed system, many black people didn't have the capacity to do so and that problem still exists in its own way.

How did he remotely say that was the rule? He described them as people he admired because they overcame the difficulties. The implication was that very few did.

Nor did he in the slightest disparage those who couldn't overcome those difficulties.
 
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But of course the person in question has to make it about some personal attack with little to no basis and grasping at straws. And they call everyone else a victim here or a bigot...the irony is palpable, if not just reflecting serious projection

There is no "person in question" here -- this is all hypothetical, of course.

That said, of course... most bullies do tend to follow a predictable pattern.
 
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I need a link. Cause I bet there is more to the story than you are telling. Just like the rest of the stuff you posted.

And here is from your really awesome article-

We assume that a racist is a bad, old bigot. That’s not how racism operates. It happens because whiteness is the unnamed water we sit in,” says Dowland. “So you have these largely homogenous student bodies where you don’t get defiant segregation like you might have in the 1960s, but whiteness is still quietly privileged in these settings.”

Children are not born racist. But the words kids hear from their parents and authority figures can instill prejudice. And walled fortresses that keep children from interacting with children of other races can, too.

And those schools, where is the evidence they are banning blacks?

And Anne Frank, well you admitted why people were concerned. It had nothing to do with Jews.

You just love twisting things don't you? Typical leftist nonsense. Cause you guys are always right and if we have a concern over whether something is appropriate for a certain age, why that's just ridiculous in the leftist mind. Cause this is all okay by them.

Here Are The Details On California’s Sex Education

So again, you crack me up with you twisted accusations. Lol!
 
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Lol Like interacting with their victims (aka bullying).

Well, a bully who doesn't interact with somebody can't be much of a bully.

So far, so obvious -- your point?
 
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Agendas being driven by a teacher are different than books which the school promotes or ROTC--another government program.
special pleading

Would you have a problem with a teacher who put a cross in the classroom to signal his faith, and to encourage Christian students to discuss their faith? That too would be prohibited, because it is pushing a personal agenda.
Not a good example as the teacher in question wasn't encouraging anyone to discuss their personal life.
 
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Marginalized just means "victim".
Marginalized - (of a person, group, or concept) treated as insignificant or peripheral.

Victim - a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.

He brought them up...not me. Removal of a flag is the topic of the thread.
he never mentioned any students being distraught over the removal of that flag. That was something you made up.
 
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The school didn't comment on that aspect, but on the personal agenda.
the school pushed its own agenda of supporting ignorance and outright bigotry.





This is the second time you tried to attribute to me things I did not say. I did not say I was offended by the agenda. Nor did the school officials.
your posts speak rather clearly even if you didn't use the precise word.

They just said it was a personal agenda and didn't belong in the classroom.

I could actually see the value of having someone to go to in order to discuss issues, whether for LGBT students, or Christian students. And I have known teachers who would like to fill that role as well. But they report they are not allowed to put any indication of that.
The school demanded that he sign a letter prohibiting him form speaking to students in any venue about sexuality, gender or relationships.
It would create a situation where say if a student revealed to him after class that they were being sexually abused he could not respond to the student in any way. The letter would also strictly prohibit the debate class form engaging in any debates about marriage, gender riles, the place of women in society and just about anything remotely attached to relationships.


Feel free to post the photo to evaluate.
they exist like it or not. What doesn't exist is anything from the teacher presenting anything to the class about his so called agenda.
 
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special pleading

No it is not. If the school decides books to promote, they can do that just as they determine the curriculum.

And ROTC is a government program.

You cannot equate government sanctioned material at a government school with a teacher putting up a sign not approved at all, and in fact discouraged.

Not a good example as the teacher in question wasn't encouraging anyone to discuss their personal life.

So you think they came to him privately to discuss the curriculum?

It was important to him, he said, and he felt that was proven when students who identified as LGBTQ came to him privately.

“It showed me specifically that what my intention was with the flag was actually happening, that students could see that I am a safe person to come to,” Wallis said. “That spoke to me a lot for them to be able to come to me and say that. It meant that I was doing what I intended to do.”
 
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the school pushed its own agenda of supporting ignorance and outright bigotry.

Your opinion, but not their statement. They indicated the problem was his personal agenda. This seems to be a consistent trend for you, mischaracterizing statements.

your posts speak rather clearly even if you didn't use the precise word.

So you admit I didn't say it. Yet you still go ahead with the smear.


The school demanded that he sign a letter prohibiting him form speaking to students in any venue about sexuality, gender or relationships.

Only after he demonstrated that this was a personal agenda.

It would create a situation where say if a student revealed to him after class that they were being sexually abused he could not respond to the student in any way.

He is a mandatory reporter in MO, and doing so would get those involved who could assist.

The letter would also strictly prohibit the debate class form engaging in any debates about marriage, gender riles, the place of women in society and just about anything remotely attached to relationships.

Given they are the ones who set the curriculum that must not have been an obstacle.

they exist like it or not.

I don't have a way to evaluate whether I like it or not without seeing it. But as I mentioned, if it is a teacher putting a cross in the classroom that is unrelated to the agenda, that would be the same issue, and would be a double standard.

But you are in luck. They have an anonymous tip form on their website.

What doesn't exist is anything from the teacher presenting anything to the class about his so called agenda.

Sure he did. He presented the flag. He even said it succeeded in its purpose, in that students came to him privately.

And then after he was asked why he took it down he said it "represented" him and LGBT students.
 
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I need a link. Cause I bet there is more to the story than you are telling. Just like the rest of the stuff you posted.

And here is from your really awesome article-

We assume that a racist is a bad, old bigot. That’s not how racism operates. It happens because whiteness is the unnamed water we sit in,” says Dowland. “So you have these largely homogenous student bodies where you don’t get defiant segregation like you might have in the 1960s, but whiteness is still quietly privileged in these settings.”

Children are not born racist. But the words kids hear from their parents and authority figures can instill prejudice. And walled fortresses that keep children from interacting with children of other races can, too.

And those schools, where is the evidence they are banning blacks?

And Anne Frank, well you admitted why people were concerned. It had nothing to do with Jews.

You just love twisting things don't you? Typical leftist nonsense. Cause you guys are always right and if we have a concern over whether something is appropriate for a certain age, why that's just ridiculous in the leftist mind. Cause this is all okay by them.

Here Are The Details On California’s Sex Education

So again, you crack me up with you twisted accusations. Lol!

The diary of a twelve year old girl who was in hiding from the Nazi's is inappropriate contentographic?

I'd ask if you ever read it....but i think that answer is obvious.
 
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