I have to admit that your question seemed completely out of left field to me at the time, so it took me aback, but I can see where you were coming from now. I have personally not gone the fetal cell lines direction myself but I am aware of many who have, including several bishops. If it can be used to obtain exemption from the COVID experimental vaccines then I'm all for it. My issue is with the experimental vaccines themselves, not the manner in which they have been tested, so I would not consider it hypocrisy to use the argument to gain exemption from one 'medication' while using another, but rather an example of being as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves. If what Dr. Cole has begun to observe in his lab is any indication, it seems likely that the health care system is going to be inundated with a wide variety of health issues in the near future as a direct result of these vaccinations. It isn't something I'm looking forward to, especially as so many people have resigned from health care due to vaccine mandates.
I predict that when the effluent hits the ventilator, the media will blame it all on vaccine hesitancy. They will do everything in their power to turn brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor, and unfortunately they are finding success even amongst the Orthodox brethren, TAW being no exception.
In fairness to you I could have, and perhaps should have, multi-quoted you instead of merely replying. I was trying to refrain from posting on an issue this politically charged. However, I have been reading, keeping track throughout even making notice of the "agrees and likes." So my question, albeit direct and simple was really addressed with consideration of numerous comments - not just the one I replied to. (whew, that's a mouthful)
The way I see it: the Church's position is neutral on whether you take the vaccine or not. It's up to each individual to decide. So that, for me, takes the moral issue off the table.
Actually, that's a great thing - again as I see it - because the unfortunate truth is that all (without exception??? idk) of the therapeutics used to fight the disease also fall under the 'tested (if not completely developed)' on fetal cell lines category. As the Ancient Faith episode (posted earlier in the thread) indicated, even the supplements are
tested in that manner.
If that's where one draws the line in the sand, then you're left to prevent and recover using stuff you grow or dig up in your back yard - and even there - there's no guarantee that someone, somewhere hasn't tested that plant/item against a cell line for something.
Phizer was tested and approved by the FDA, beyond the emergency approval. It was not developed using the fetal cell lines, although there was subsequent testing against HEK293. That's the one I received in good conscience.
I live around too many who are immune compromised or older, for that manner I'm too old myself, to take the chances on recovery - mine or especially the others. ymmv
I do have one question for you; you said:
My issue is with the experimental vaccines themselves..
The use of Ivermectin or any other therapeutic not develpoed specifically as an anti-viral is no less experimental in regards to Covid. How do you reconcile that?
