Is the covid vaccine the mark of the beast part 2

Yes. And the mark won't be in your right or left arm, but on your right hand or on you forehead.

andreha said:

Yes. And the mark won't be in your right or left arm, but on your right hand or on you forehead.

Click to expand...

I made sure to get jabbed in the left arm just to be on the safe side .

Carl Emerson said:

The flue jab is different every year to keep up with strains that appear - what is the difference?

Heaps of medicines are derived from the same cellines - what about them?

Are we to conclude that taking medicine is no longer trusting God? I am not saying you meant that...

Click to expand...

I don't recall it, but my guess is people were claiming the 2009 H1N1 pandemic vaccine was the mark of the beast too. I do remember there was fear mongering over horrific side effects that were supposed to take place.

MMXX said:

I made sure to get jabbed in the left arm just to be on the safe side .

Click to expand...

I had #1 in right arm and #2 in left, rendering it useless also.

andreha said:

Yes. And the mark won't be in your right or left arm, but on your right hand or on you forehead.

Click to expand...

Are you absolutely 100% certain on that?

Because I was researching the words concerned (right hand, hand) used in the greek, and during my research, I have had to question if the reference to hand could also be a reference to the arm?

See the question still remains, is the translation accurate?

alertandawake said:

Are you absolutely 100% certain on that?

Because I was researching the words concerned (right hand, hand) used in the greek, and during my research, I have had to question if the reference to hand could also be a reference to the arm?

See the question still remains, is the translation accurate?

Click to expand...

Interesting point that. Ultimately we need to trust the Lord to give us the wisdom and insight when this MOTB thing gets real. I don't believe that God will allow satan to trick millions of Christians into damnation though.

Blaise N said:

Apparently to this guy on my other post he thinks it isn’t a vaccine but a jab, could you elaborate more?

Click to expand...

Jab is just a slang term for the needle going in your arm.

Blaise N said:

Hi everyone

I’d like to come back and continue a conversation I closed about a week and a half ago of the same title.So yesterday I got a notification of a person who said “yes the covid vaccine is the MOTB” and I’ve had anxiety ever since,I’m afraid I’m marked for hell.For the link to the original conversation:I’ve been vaccinated with many vaccines,is vaccination the mark of the beast

The name of the person is “watcher of the mountain” who claims that the vaccine had magnetic metal inside it that will connect to the WWW and thru 5G for mind control and he caused me to have a panic attack.

can someone offer some insight?Im scared

Click to expand...

Whether the Covid vaccine is the mark of the beast or whether the vaccine is to prepare us, that is going to be subject to debate.

WHat I will say is look where we are headed today. We are seeing a separation of people beginning to happen, we are seeing those who refuse to get the vaccine subject to threats of loss of job or loss of certain privileges. Depending where one is, or what articles they have come across, we starting to see evidence of people who are vaccinated wanting nothing to do with those who are unvaccinated (regardless whether they are family or friends)

The state that I live in looks like is going ahead to have those unvaccinated banned from entering certain venues and places (and I think there may be possible fines for those unvaccinated who choose to enter?)

You have to really start asking "What direction are we as a society headed towards?"

alertandawake said:

Are you absolutely 100% certain on that?

Because I was researching the words concerned (right hand, hand) used in the greek, and during my research, I have had to question if the reference to hand could also be a reference to the arm?

See the question still remains, is the translation accurate?

Click to expand...

Looking at the Greek it seems pretty clear to be the right hand (dexias cheiros).

Also the mark (charagma) is a stamp, impress, engraving, sign.

MMXX said:

Jab is just a slang term for the needle going in your arm.

Click to expand...

Yes jab is a slang term. Another slang term that could be used in reference to vaccines is peopel asking "did you get your shot?"

The only shot I will accept is whisky or vodka

andreha said:

We as Christians won't be around when the mark of the beast comes into existence? All / some of us will probaly be raptured by then, not so?

Click to expand...

i see all of that very differently.

i understand the mark of the beast to be much more how a person lives their lives in this world. When we think in our by our world taught minds, then i know we are numbered on our foreheads in such self. i also know that when we work for this world, we are marked on our right hand in such self. And i know when we don't do that it is very hard to make a living. Here The Word is telling me that in our worldly educated and focussed lives we are all numbered to go. Not invited into Christ's kingdom. It makes me very aware to seek out life in His loving truth and not remain worldly in what i do or think.

Such is the spiritual language of Scripture to me.

Physical creation, like satan, has been numbered to perish in my understanding of the truth. For flesh and blood do not inherit the kingdom of God Scripture teaches. Neither satan, as the prince of this world, nor the world, as it is, and operates, is going to survive God's wrath, and all of it is going down in flames when Jesus Comes.

However i know that each time The Truth of God's salvation penetrates through those nasty lies ruling this planet, a heart goes up in rapture. This process will go on right within the heart of the believer all their lives, as more and more The Holy Spirit leads them into all the truth.

i understand The truth of God to be wheels within wheels. How He works in small, He does in big. How He works within a short time, He works within a long time. Same loving truth working in all and through all.

So no i don't see a physical rapture coming our way any time soon. However i do see the truth of peoples spiritual rapture going on all the time, as believers experience God's love in their lives and they are taken up by His loving truth out of the darkness they are in and are placed in His light.

Amazing what a change when i see them ruling their lives beside Christ instead of being stuck with the darkness of lies, misery and sin.

Wish all people knew how good our Lord is don't you reckon?

So what do i think about the rapture? i reckon rather than wanting to see believers escape hardship and persecution being raptured by Jesus physically, i hope they will find His loving truth alive within their hearts, each day a bit more and witness His loving truth all around.

i hope God's loving truth sets all believers completely free from any lies that got hold of them, and all believers begin to love their neighbours truthfully, like Christ loves them, and change this rotten world with God's love. i work towards this in my own way as well. For if that would happen a lot more lives, and a lot more of our lives will be raptured into God's Kingdom.

Peace.

MMXX said:

Looking at the Greek it seems pretty clear to be the right hand (dexias cheiros).

Click to expand...

Not really, dexios could also be right side, but the word cheir is where things become a problem. I have been researching the word "cheir" but it is not easy, but some of the research I have come across some material to indicate this word also relates to "hand and arm".

Truth is, I don't know the greek at the time, and I don't think there will be many people in this world that do.

alertandawake said:

Not really, dexios could also be right side, but the word cheir is where things become a problem. I have been researching the word "cheir" but it is not easy, but some of the research I have come across some material to indicate this word also relates to "hand and arm".

Truth is, I don't know the greek at the time, and I don't think there will be many people in this world that do.

Click to expand...

That's possible. I'm not a Greek scholar either so I can't say for sure. But being right handed, I chose to have my left arm inoculated, because I was expecting muscle soreness like I get from flu and tetanus shots. I'm guessing many also chose their left arm for that reason. So if this is the mark of the beast it has a pretty big flaw in being administered.

Another thing is I think it's a good idea to read Revelation 13. There's a whole bunch of major stuff that happens before the mark is given, and I'm pretty sure that stuff hasn't happened yet.

Blaise N said:

Hi everyone

I’d like to come back and continue a conversation I closed about a week and a half ago of the same title.So yesterday I got a notification of a person who said “yes the covid vaccine is the MOTB” and I’ve had anxiety ever since,I’m afraid I’m marked for hell.For the link to the original conversation:I’ve been vaccinated with many vaccines,is vaccination the mark of the beast

The name of the person is “watcher of the mountain” who claims that the vaccine had magnetic metal inside it that will connect to the WWW and thru 5G for mind control and he caused me to have a panic attack.

can someone offer some insight?Im scared

Click to expand...

You might want to read the text.

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

If you worship the beast and his image and receive the mark of his name.

Do you worship the beast?

I think the mark is the acceptance of the authority of the beast.

klutedavid said:

You might want to read the text.

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

If you worship the beast and his image and receive the mark of his name.

Do you worship the beast?

I think the mark is the acceptance of the authority of the beast.

Click to expand...

The problem is Revelation 13:16:

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads NIV

Although other translations say caused rather than forced (or similar wording).

MMXX said:

The problem is Revelation 13:16:

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads NIV

Although other translations say caused rather than forced (or similar wording).

Click to expand...

Maybe this could be in reference to a situation or event that has happened, and said event has required people to get this specific mark? The words "great and small" could also be translated as "old and young" if looking at the words in greek.

I suppose one question we should be asking "why do the people need a specific mark to buy and sell?"

You may not necessarily have to be forced directly, but indirectly? Has something happened that people were "blackmailed" into getting the mark?

Blaise N said:

no I’ll never worship the beast,I have horrible anxiety about the mark

Click to expand...

Who you worship determines whether you receive the mark or the Seal. See Revelation 13:4, Revelation 13:12, Revelation 13:15, Revelation 14:9, Revelation 14:11, Revelation 16:2, Revelation 19:4, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:4.

Apostasy was prophesied to happen in the church. See 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; a falling away (apostasia: a falling away, defection, apostasy). Apostasy is the abandonment or renunciation of a religious belief. It's made clear in Revelation that the saints keep the commandments of God. See Revelation 14:12, Revelation 12:17. The commandments of God include worship commandments (1 thru 4 of the 10).

The pandemic/vaccine situation appears to a precursor to beast worship. It is aligning the will of the people, to fall in line with the forthcoming beast power, and its narrative. Revelation prophesies of the sorceries (pharmakeia: the use or the administering of drugs; poisoning) by which all nations are deceived. See Revelation 18:23.

Considering it's a worship issue of a spiritual nature, the mark of the beast is not a physical mark. The symbols of the forehead and hand represent thought and action. There is no way to come to God without a transformation of the mind, and you can't earn your place in heaven by action (works). You can, however, deny God through your thoughts and actions.

The worship issue is a choice. Do we keep the commandments of God or do we stray from them? Do we worship God as He specified or do we deviate from His commandments and do it our own way? Do we believe and trust men or do we believe and trust God and His word?

I'm sure most will disagree with me on this. Rather than listen to what I have to say, seek the truth in scripture and come to your own conclusions.

Blaise N said:

Hi everyone

I’d like to come back and continue a conversation I closed about a week and a half ago of the same title.So yesterday I got a notification of a person who said “yes the covid vaccine is the MOTB” and I’ve had anxiety ever since,I’m afraid I’m marked for hell.For the link to the original conversation:I’ve been vaccinated with many vaccines,is vaccination the mark of the beast

The name of the person is “watcher of the mountain” who claims that the vaccine had magnetic metal inside it that will connect to the WWW and thru 5G for mind control and he caused me to have a panic attack.

can someone offer some insight?Im scared

Click to expand...

Sounds like a great plot for a sci-fi movie. But that is as far as I will go with this persons claim. Be blessed.