The Word Is One

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The Law and the Prophets, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Paul's teachings by the Holy Spirit,
all apostolic doctrine, and the Spirit in me are One. Why would Jesus pray John 17?

John 17:
20
I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me
through
their word;
21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they
also may
be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one
just as
We are one:
23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that
the world
may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

The Spirit In Me has a message for you. He knows Paul and his teaching well.
He knows us just as well. We are One. Paul wrote:

2 Corinthians 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you,
always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work.

I Am still able! I am not limited by any theological teaching or doctrine that would oppose the
knowledge of God. All denominations, doctrines and dogma that would oppose the work that
the body of Christ has been tasked with My Help will come to desolation, and soon.
Do you not know that the testimony of the Son of God is the spirit of prophecy?

Matthew 12:
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: Every kingdom divided against itself is
brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.

31 Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

Now I am well aware that there are those who try to put limits on the authority of Holy Spirit.
That includes limiting the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, even to this one instant, giving the
Word of God a very narrow berth. And yet in this very narrative, Jesus goes on to say:

36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account
of it in the day of judgment.

37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

In so doing, the Lord is giving His Word as wide a berth as possible. Every idle word!
Here is the significance of that statement, that many do not seem to have learned.
When you are in your group meeting, you are supposed to be under the Anointing, and
speak
only under the Anointing. Jesus is not talking about the barber shop here.
"If any man speak, let him speak as an oracle of God". 1 Peter 4:11. See also 1 Corinthians 14
If Christians are speaking prophetically to one another, it is by the Holy Spirit.
If Christians are speaking falsehood to one another, while supposedly speaking under
the Anointing of the Holy Spirit, then the prophetic Word of Christ in Matthew 12:25-37
stands today, as an eternal Word of testimony, and will be a basis for judgment (idle words)
individually, as well as factions within the kingdom that would oppose Truth that will be brought
to desolation. Matthew 12:25
This is why Paul said:
1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which
are approved
may be made manifest among you.
This holds true for this forum. And the judgment Jesus has already spoken is ready
to be made swiftly against those who hold such doctrines.

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God,
surely the kingdom of God has come upon (against) you.

He has made clear that the kingdom of heaven will prevail.
2 Corinthians 13:8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.
 

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The Law and the Prophets, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Paul's teachings by the Holy Spirit,
all apostolic doctrine, and the Spirit in me are One. Why would Jesus pray John 17?

John 17:
20
I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me
through
their word;
21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they
also may
be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one
just as
We are one:
23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that
the world
may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Jesus was not praying for anyone but the Galilean Disciples and those who would believe their witness, because they were with Jesus from the beginning, John 15:27.

Ephesians 2:15 abolished the law,
Colossians 2:14 nailed to the cross,
Romans 3:21 righteousness without the law... need I go on?
Because this is certainly not the same thing Jesus teaches.
And the Law and the Prophets both speak of an Everlasting Covenant in the circumcision... the sure mercies of David wouldn't be remotely possible unless there were laws to break. In fact, the Laws of the Kingdom, given in the Sermon on the Mount... has a warning attached to it... against breaking those commandments.

Jesus says those who don't keep His commandments don't love Him, John 14:24.
John 12:44-50 says Jesus' commandments are the Father's Commandments... and that we who believe and do what He says... actually believe the Father.

Till Heaven and Earth pass away, the Law will not pass away.

The Spirit In Me has a message for you. He knows Paul and his teaching well.
He knows us just as well. We are One. Paul wrote:

2 Corinthians 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you,
always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work.

I Am still able! I am not limited by any theological teaching or doctrine that would oppose the
knowledge of God. All denominations, doctrines and dogma that would oppose the work that
the body of Christ has been tasked with My Help will come to desolation, and soon.
Do you not know that the testimony of the Son of God is the spirit of prophecy?

Matthew 12:
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: Every kingdom divided against itself is
brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.

31 Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
The house divided:

Matthew 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard [it], they said, This [fellow] doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. 12:27 by whom do your children cast [them] out? therefore they shall be your judges.

Again:

Matthew 9:34 But the Pharisees said, He casteth out devils through the prince of the devils.

Matthew 10:25 It is enough for the Disciple that he be as his Master, and the servant as his Lord. If they have called the Master of the house Beelzebub, how much more [shall they call] them of His household?

And Again:

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 11:22 Are they Hebrews? so [am] I...

Galatians 2:7-9
VS
Galatians 3:5 and John 14:15-17
 
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Jesus was not praying for anyone but the Galilean Disciples and those who would believe their witness, because they were with Jesus from the beginning, John 15:27.
So Jesus was not praying that I would be one with Him? That you would be one with me?
That we would be one with the Father? That we all would be one in Him?
Jesus prayed for the Will of His Father to be done.
Your statement contradicts the sound comprehension of this truth:
Psalm 22:30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
One God, One Spirit, One Will, one seed, one generation in His Purpose.
God All, In All.
 
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So Jesus was not praying that I would be one with Him? That you would be one with me?
That we would be one with the Father? That we all would be one in Him?
Jesus prayed for the Will of His Father to be done.
Your statement contradicts the sound comprehension of this truth:
Psalm 22:30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
One God, One Spirit, One Will, one seed, one generation in His Purpose.
God All, In All.

Matthew 7:21-25 Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in Heaven. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of Mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon the rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon the rock.

Matthew 16:15-19 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but My Father which is in Heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art petros, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

petros = a (piece of) rock (larger than lithos)
petra = a (mass of) rock
 
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How does this help clarify the topic of the thread.

Matthew 12:
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: Every kingdom divided against itself is
brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.

31 Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

Now I am well aware that there are those who try to put limits on the authority of Holy Spirit.
That includes limiting the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, even to this one instant, giving the
Word of God a very narrow berth. And yet in this very narrative, Jesus goes on to say:

36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account
of it in the day of judgment.

37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

In so doing, the Lord is giving His Word as wide a berth as possible. Every idle word!
Here is the significance of that statement, that many do not seem to have learned.
When you are in your group meeting, you are supposed to be under the Anointing, and
speak
only under the Anointing. Jesus is not talking about the barber shop here.
"If any man speak, let him speak as an oracle of God". 1 Peter 4:11. See also 1 Corinthians 14
If Christians are speaking prophetically to one another, it is by the Holy Spirit.
If Christians are speaking falsehood to one another, while supposedly speaking under
the Anointing of the Holy Spirit, then the prophetic Word of Christ in Matthew 12:25-37
stands today, as an eternal Word of testimony, and will be a basis for judgment (idle words)
individually, as well as factions within the kingdom that would oppose Truth that will be brought
to desolation. Matthew 12:25
This is why Paul said:
1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which
are approved
may be made manifest among you.
This holds true for this forum. And the judgment Jesus has already spoken is ready
to be made swiftly against those who hold such doctrines.

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God,
surely the kingdom of God has come upon (against) you.

He has made clear that the kingdom of heaven will prevail.
2 Corinthians 13:8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.
 
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Matthew 12:
25
But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: Every kingdom divided against itself is
brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
31 Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men.

blasphemia = from blasphemos; vilification (especially against God):--blasphemy, evil speaking, railing.
blasphemos = from a derivative of blapto and pheme; scurrilious, i.e. calumnious (against men), or (specially) impious (against God):--blasphemer(-mous), railing.
blapto = a primary verb; properly, to hinder, i.e. (by implication) to injure:--hurt.
pheme = phemi; a saying, i.e. rumor ("fame"):--fame.

So then, Blasphemy hinders the words and/or works of God... maligns God's character, gives Him a bad name. Which is what we see the Pharisees doing.

Matthew 9:34 But the Pharisees said, He casteth out devils through the prince of the devils.
Matthew 10:25 If they have called the Master of the house Beelzebub, how much more [shall they call] them of His household?

They called the works of the Holy Spirit the works of the devil... this is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit... and they called Jesus the son of the devil, by implication.

So... the Pharisees blasphemed the whole Trinity... twice

Matthew 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard [it], they said, This [fellow] doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.


Now I am well aware that there are those who try to put limits on the authority of Holy Spirit.
That includes limiting the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, even to this one instant, giving the
Word of God a very narrow berth. And yet in this very narrative, Jesus goes on to say:

36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account
of it in the day of judgment.

37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

In so doing, the Lord is giving His Word as wide a berth as possible. Every idle word!

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God,
surely the kingdom of God has come upon (against) you.

He has made clear that the kingdom of heaven will prevail.
(you don't see the connections, so... let me clarify)

Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees and like-minded people:

Matthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by [his] fruit. 34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

argos = from a (as a negative particle) and ergon (work); inactive, i.e. unemployed; (by implication) lazy, useless:--barren, idle, slow.

These are people of the same mind:

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in Heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.

anomia = from anomos; illegality, i.e. violation of law or (genitive case) wickedness:--iniquity, X transgress(-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.
anomos = from a (as a negative particle) and nomos (law); lawless, i.e. (negatively) not subject to (the Jewish) law; (by implication, a Gentile), or (positively) wicked:--without law, lawless, transgressor, unlawful, wicked.

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But this is to Jesus' Disciples:

(The will of My Father which is in Heaven =)
Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these words of Mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon the rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon the rock.
(The rock = the words of the Father, John 12:44-50, spoken to Jesus' Galilean Disciples.)

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew 7:21-25 Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in Heaven. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these words of Mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon the rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon the rock.

Matthew 16:15-19 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but My Father which is in Heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art petros, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

petros = a (piece of) rock (larger than lithos)
petra = a (mass of) rock
(Matthew 16:16 is a piece of rock from the mass of rock.)
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