What was Jesus’ purpose if sins were forgiven before His Incarnation?

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Matthew chapter 25


31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

I see that this is one of your favorite passages you used to justify that you need works to be saved. You are correct but you are not rightly dividing the word of truth.

That is a Tribulation passage. In the Tribulation, God focus his attention on Israel once again during those 7 years, the gentile nations will again be judged by how they helped or refuse to help Israel during those 7 years.

If you read the passage in Matthew 25:31-46 properly, Jesus was addressing "all the nations" (vs 32), a term which always refers to gentiles.

He spoke to them saying those who feed his "brethren" (vs 40), which is a biblical term denoting the Jewish brothers and sisters of Christ, as Jesus was born a Jew.

It is for good reason, during the 7 years of Tribulation, or Jacob's trouble, the antichrist will be persecuting all of Israel, and it will indeed become the responsibility of gentiles, if they want to be saved, to protect the Jews.

For example, if you refuse to offer food, drinks, clothes to the people of Israel who will be persecuted by the antichrist, your faith in Christ alone will not save you too (Matthew 25:41-46).

For those tribulation saints who are saved during that time, the Antichrist will emerge to persecute the nation Israel during those 7 years.

Everyone in Israel will have to flee to the mountains and pray that this flight takes place neither in the sabbath nor the winter, as Jesus prophesied.

So if you are a gentile then, and still want to be considered saved at the end of the Tribulation, it takes more than just faith in Jesus alone.

Like what it popularly quoted from James, they need to have works together with that faith, which if you read that passage by Jesus in (Matthew 25:41-46), you are also required to feed and take care of the Jews, those who didn't manage to flee, who are being persecuted by the antichrist then.

At the end, Jesus on his throne will welcome you to his kingdom, because, as he said, if you did it for them, you are doing it for him.

In the age to come, You will be saved thru the nation Israel, just like how gentiles were in time past.

But now, we are not living in the Tribulation period now, currently, Israel the nation has fallen in the eyes of God, we gentiles are saved thru the fall of Israel. (Romans 11:11)

We are saved by grace thru faith alone apart from works of any kind (Romans 4:5).
 
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Title says it all. Also, just to start off, I am a believer but I always have questions like these pop up in my head when I read the OT. I was reading the Psalms tonight and the Sons of Korah and David both talk about their delight in the Lord for his forgiveness of sins and how He makes those who love Him righteous. If God forgave the sins of those who love Him before sending His Son, and made people righteous, then why did we need Jesus in the first place?
The sin of those who believed in the Promise (Jesus Christ) were forgiven in anticipation of the cross which paid for them (Romans 3:25-26).
 
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Title says it all. Also, just to start off, I am a believer but I always have questions like these pop up in my head when I read the OT. I was reading the Psalms tonight and the Sons of Korah and David both talk about their delight in the Lord for his forgiveness of sins and how He makes those who love Him righteous. If God forgave the sins of those who love Him before sending His Son, and made people righteous, then why did we need Jesus in the first place?
easy answer the incarnation isnt about forgiving sins haha its about becoming one with God through Christ we can see that in 2 Peter
 
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easy answer the incarnation isnt about forgiving sins haha its about becoming one with God through Christ we can see that in 2 Peter
The purpose of the incarnation--the Word became flesh (John 1:14)--was to shed his blood (Matthew 20:28) in atonement for sin
(Romans 3:25).

Matthew 20:28 - "The Son of Man came. . .to give his life as a ransom for many."

Romans 3:25 - "God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement through faith in his blood."
 
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The purpose of the incarnation--the Word became flesh (John 1:14)--was to shed his blood (Matthew 20:28) in atonement for sin
(Romans 3:25).

Matthew 20:28 - "The Son of Man came. . .to give his life as a ransom for many."

Romans 3:25 - "God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement through faith in his blood."
correct and is that about forgiving sins i think thats a complete misunderstanding on what i was addressing i was addressing his misconception on the incarnation Jesus dying on the cross was atoning us so we can be partakers of the divine grace of God as we can see in 2 Peter 2:1-4 Christ being our ransom gives us a way to be back in the divine grace of God just like Adam and Eve was until they have fallen from grace and giving us a corrupted nature, Christ ransom for us is our way to be back in the grace of God through faith Ephesians 2:8-9 atonement has nothing for forgiveness of sins but rather atoning for our sins God can and will forgive any sin we ask for forgiveness on
 
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correct and is that about forgiving sins i think thats a complete misunderstanding on what i was addressing i was addressing his misconception on the incarnation Jesus dying on the cross was atoning us so we can be partakers of the divine grace of God as we can see in 2 Peter 2:1-4 Christ being our ransom gives us a way to be back in the divine grace of God just like Adam and Eve was until they have fallen from grace and giving us a corrupted nature, Christ ransom for us is our way to be back in the grace of God through faith Ephesians 2:8-9 atonement has nothing for forgiveness of sins but rather atoning for our sins God can and will forgive any sin we ask for forgiveness on
Okay, I see.

Actually, Jesus' atonement paid the debt of sin, and payment is applied to our own sin through faith in (apart from its works; i.e.,
justification--Romans 4:5 3:21, 3:28) and trust on the person and work of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sin and right standing with God's justice; i.e., not guilty.
 
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I think it’s more like the jubilee, when all debts are forgiven, all slaves set free.

A covenant agreement is more like a true marriage. Each party gives of himself to the other, until death.

the wage for sin is death, & mankind is under that covenant agreement until death. But God in His mercy died, though He was not at fault. Releasing mankind from that covenant. The covenant of sin & death and forming a new covenant of love.

Following the law does not make you holy, as your Father in heaven is holy. But the holiness of your Father in heaven, the love of the Father (grace) makes you follow the law.

God loves us, we in turn love our neighbors.

Jesus dying on the cross was about freeing Israel (& subsequently mankind) from the law of sin & death, where Old Testament temple sacrifices were forgiveness of sin. None of us will die. We will live forever. As was the plan from the beginning. Some will live forever with God, because we are like God. Perfect reflections of His image. The rest of us will live apart from God, complete abominations.
 
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Title says it all. Also, just to start off, I am a believer but I always have questions like these pop up in my head when I read the OT. I was reading the Psalms tonight and the Sons of Korah and David both talk about their delight in the Lord for his forgiveness of sins and how He makes those who love Him righteous. If God forgave the sins of those who love Him before sending His Son, and made people righteous, then why did we need Jesus in the first place?
{These are the 2 best verses that I think answer your ?} (1 John 3:8) 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. (Psalm 51:16-17) 16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering. 17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
 
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Title says it all. Also, just to start off, I am a believer but I always have questions like these pop up in my head when I read the OT. I was reading the Psalms tonight and the Sons of Korah and David both talk about their delight in the Lord for his forgiveness of sins and how He makes those who love Him righteous. If God forgave the sins of those who love Him before sending His Son, and made people righteous, then why did we need Jesus in the first place?
Gen 15:5-6 NASB 5 And He took him outside and said, "Now look toward the heavens, and count the stars, if you are able to count them." And He said to him, "So shall your SEED be." 6 Then he believed in the LORD; and He credited it to him as righteousness.​

That "credit" of righteousness? Who paid for that? Who redeemed that? Where did that righteousness come from?

Gal 3:13-18 NASB 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE" 14 in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 15 Brethren, I speak in terms of human relations: even though it is [only] a man's covenant, yet when it has been ratified, no one sets it aside or adds conditions to it. 16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, "And to seeds," as [referring] to many, but [rather] to one, "And to your seed," that is, Christ. 17 What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. 18 For if the inheritance is based on law, it is no longer based on a promise; but God has granted it to Abraham by means of a promise.​

That righteousness came from Jesus Christ. Jesus gave up his righteousness in exchange for our sin and the specifically the sin of Abraham. Those who have the same faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ that Abraham had are considered the "sons" of Abraham. God promised that the righteousness given to Abraham would be an everlasting inheritance by the children of Abraham.

Gal 3:6-9 NASB 6 Even so Abraham BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS. 7 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. 8 The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, [saying,] "ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU." 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer. 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.​

Rom 4:8-13, 16-17 NASB 8 "BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT." 9 Is this blessing then on the circumcised, or on the uncircumcised also? For we say, "FAITH WAS CREDITED TO ABRAHAM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS." 10 How then was it credited? While he was circumcised, or uncircumcised? Not while circumcised, but while uncircumcised; 11 and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while uncircumcised, so that he might be the father of all who believe without being circumcised, that righteousness might be credited to them, 12 and the father of circumcision to those who not only are of the circumcision, but who also follow in the steps of the faith of our father Abraham which he had while uncircumcised. 13 For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith. ... 16 For this reason [it is] by faith, in order that [it may be] in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, 17 (as it is written, "A FATHER OF MANY NATIONS HAVE I MADE YOU") in the presence of Him whom he believed, [even] God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist.​

Quite simply, the purpose of Jesus was to qualify (by the Law of Moses) as the first righteous person in existence since the Fall so that SOMEONE could bring righteousness into the equation. The sacrificial system allowed him to give up that righteousness as a substitutionary atonement for sin. God's promise to Abraham that all of his (spiritual) descendants would inherit the righteousness he was credited was how the righteousness of One man (Jesus) multiplied to many.

Rom 5:19 NASB 19 For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.​

Jesus purpose is summed up in the book of Revelation:

Rev 5:1-10 NASB 1 I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a book written inside and on the back, sealed up with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the book and to break its seals?" 3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the book or to look into it. 4 Then I [began] to weep greatly because no one was found worthy to open the book or to look into it; 5 and one of the elders said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals." 6 And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth. 7 And He came and took the book out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne. 8 When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood [men] from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. 10 "You have made them [to be] a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth."​
 
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Title says it all. Also, just to start off, I am a believer but I always have questions like these pop up in my head when I read the OT. I was reading the Psalms tonight and the Sons of Korah and David both talk about their delight in the Lord for his forgiveness of sins and how He makes those who love Him righteous. If God forgave the sins of those who love Him before sending His Son, and made people righteous, then why did we need Jesus in the first place?

This is such a great question.

And if a person sticks to the Scriptures, and resists the religious tradition of letting "another voice" answer this question for you, the Scriptures, and the Word's of Jesus Himself, actually answer it.

Matt. 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

So why were there "lost sheep"?

There was a religion which existed in the world Jesus was born into, that claimed the Biblical "God" as their God. They had the "Book of the Law". they had Priests and Preachers. They had huge Shrines of Worship and temples made of wood and stone. So how come were the Children lost with all of these things? Jeremiah and Jesus answers this question for us.

Jer 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.

Matt. 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Jesus continues;

Matt. 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Matt. 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

Remember, the masses did not have the "Book of the Law". They were forced to go to a man made Shrine of Worship, that the preachers had turned into a business. And listen to the preachers of that time, promote their religion that had led the people astray for centuries.

Jesus came, in part, to expose this Mainstream religion, who called His Father "Lord", as the Children of the Devil they were.

He ushered in a New Priesthood, "After the order of Melchizedek", as prophesied, which longer required the "works of the law" of a Priesthood Covenant HE made with Levi "After the order of Aaron".

This is promised in God's definition of a New Covenant. (Jer. 31)

We now have the Oracles of God in our own home, in our own hands, and in our own mind, and are not required any more, to go find a man made shrine of worship and let another voice define the Scriptures for us.

We no longer are required to perform sacrificial "works of the law" for forgiveness, as provided for in the Priesthood Covenant God made with Levi, "Because of Transgressions". God forgives our sins Himself as promised "after those days".

So Jesus came to usher in a New Priesthood, a New Ministry, based on better promises, as Prophesied in the Law and Prophets.

And to expose the religions of men who come in His Name, as the "other voice" in the Garden.

Trust the Scriptures, and avoid the pull of the religious traditions of this world. God is faithful to reveal Himself to you.
 
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Title says it all. Also, just to start off, I am a believer but I always have questions like these pop up in my head when I read the OT. I was reading the Psalms tonight and the Sons of Korah and David both talk about their delight in the Lord for his forgiveness of sins and how He makes those who love Him righteous. If God forgave the sins of those who love Him before sending His Son, and made people righteous, then why did we need Jesus in the first place?

I think the sins forgiven in the past also need to be paid for. If Christ wasn't to be crucified, God couldn't have forgiven those sins in the past, at least not and at the same time being righteous.

being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;
— Romans 3:24-25
 
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Title says it all. Also, just to start off, I am a believer but I always have questions like these pop up in my head when I read the OT. I was reading the Psalms tonight and the Sons of Korah and David both talk about their delight in the Lord for his forgiveness of sins and how He makes those who love Him righteous. If God forgave the sins of those who love Him before sending His Son, and made people righteous, then why did we need Jesus in the first place?

God exists outside of time. So there is no linier progression of events for God.
But there is for us, so we are always asking "WHY?" for everything.
But for God, it's all already finished.
 
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“ without the shedding of blood, there is no Sacrifice for Sin......”

Because of the Shed Blood Of The Perfect Lamb Of God, EVERY sin ever committed on this planet and every Sin that can be committed in the Future has been wiped out.....Fully paid for......” It is Finished”
To “ cash in” on what has already been accomplished for you , you must “ Turn to God, with Faith in Jesus Christ”...... Do this by hearing and Resting in the Gospel Of Pure Grace Plus Nothing found in 1Cor15:1-4......
The Good News!!!!!!!!
 
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Because of the Shed Blood Of The Perfect Lamb Of God, EVERY sin ever committed on this planet and every Sin that can be committed in the Future has been wiped out.....Fully paid for-it is finished.

Wrong, only the sins for Gods chosen people in Christ have had every sin taken away, for many people shall yet die in their sins in unbelief.
 
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Wrong, only the sins for Gods chosen people in Christ have had every sin taken away, for many people shall yet die in their sins in unbelief.

That is their own problem. Their sins have been forgiven. They only need to accept forgiveness, freely given. Not accepting? Too bad. It's up to God as usual.
 
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That is their own problem. Their sins have been forgiven. They only need to accept forgiveness, freely given. Not accepting? Too bad. It's up to God as usual.
Nobodys sins are forgiven by God and they still die in their sins.
 
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Nobodys sins are forgiven by God and they still die in their sins.

Nobody's sins are forgiven by God? The all of Christianity is in error? Really?

Romans 3:16-18, " For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God."

Matthew 26:27-28, "And after taking the cup and giving thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood, the blood of the covenant, that is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."

Mark 3:28, "I tell you the truth, people will be forgiven for all sins, even all the blasphemies they utter."

Luke 5:24, "But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—he said to the paralyzed man—“I tell you, stand up, take your stretcher and go home.”

Acts 2:38, "Peter said to them, “Repent, and each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

Acts 10:43, "About him all the prophets testify, that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."

Acts 13:38, "Therefore let it be known to you, brothers, that through this one forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you"

Ephesians 1:7, "In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our offenses, according to the riches of his grace"

... and many more statements from Scripture.
 
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Nobodys sins are forgiven by God and they still die in their sins.
Luke 6:37
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

Colossians 3:13
Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.
 
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Nobody's sins are forgiven by God? The all of Christianity is in error? Really?

Romans 3:16-18, " For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God."

Matthew 26:27-28, "And after taking the cup and giving thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood, the blood of the covenant, that is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."

Mark 3:28, "I tell you the truth, people will be forgiven for all sins, even all the blasphemies they utter."

Luke 5:24, "But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—he said to the paralyzed man—“I tell you, stand up, take your stretcher and go home.”

Acts 2:38, "Peter said to them, “Repent, and each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

Acts 10:43, "About him all the prophets testify, that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."

Acts 13:38, "Therefore let it be known to you, brothers, that through this one forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you"

Ephesians 1:7, "In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our offenses, according to the riches of his grace"

... and many more statements from Scripture.
I believe you are in error my friend. What Im saying, if anyone dies in their sins, their sins were never forgiven in the first place.
 
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