do you feel bad when you sin?

Lifelong_sinner said:

hello all. simple question tonite. when i sin, its only certain sins that i feel bad about, while my habitual sins dont cause me any bad feelings. is this a sign that i dont have the Holy Spirit? do yall feel bad every time you sin?

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Dear brother sinful life within us does not care about sin but loves it that way. So when you see that you repent from your sins then you know that you will get God's grace and His love will bring you His New Life, while were you don't care about your sins you will perish when Jesus comes for a visitation, or if you die.

For those who sin shall die the Word teaches, so we either die to our sin willingly and find new life in Jesus or, we continue in sin and perish at the end of the road in that part of our lives. When Jesus will cut such sinful self out of heart with the truth of His Word. Hebrews 4:12-13 explains this process in detail.

So please brother understand that live in sin will die and will never get saved. So please strive after finding new life in Him, by repenting of wrong and letting His loving truth bring you new life, where now you love and serve Jesus instead of sin wilfully.

Honest i tarried in my sins for years, but it only brought me misery in the end. When Jesus was revealed in my life, i perished in all those selves where i sinned wilfully, while in those selves where i had repented and grown new life in Him, i am still present learned to love and serve Him faithfully true. Life with Jesus is awesome! So very much better than life in sin.

So i urge you brother to repent of your wilful sins - time and again - until you have completely broken free with them.

James 4:7-10
"Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up."

Those, born of God, doeth not commit sin......according to the bible.

Lifelong_sinner said:

hello all. simple question tonite. when i sin, its only certain sins that i feel bad about, while my habitual sins dont cause me any bad feelings. is this a sign that i dont have the Holy Spirit? do yall feel bad every time you sin?

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Depends. there are some "sins" that are not actually declared as sin by the bible but are treated as sin by men. Someone who is "torah observant" will declare that eating pork is still sin, but you'll be hard pressed to find a new covenant gentile Christian that feels the same way, I don't feel guilt when I eat bacon, because
1 Timothy 4:1-5

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

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Abstaining from Pork was not among the laws that Peter and Paul instructed for the gentiles. We were not burdened with it and while Peter had a different interpretation of this vision (that was not an incorrect interpretation but I think it also did have a foodstuffs meaning that Peter didn't want to acknowledge at first) in Acts 10, God declared all four footed beasts clean for food.

But if it is something explicitly said to be sin, in both the old and new testament.. yeah you probably should feel guilty about it. I know I feel convicted if I swear at someone even if I don't use any profanity to do so, but I don't feel convicted if I use profanity while by myself because I stubbed my toe against a door or something. The reasons why? Jesus told us that insulting or offending or being angry at others without cause was sin in Matthew 5

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

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But nowhere in scripture does it say that certain 4 letter words in English are sinful to use period. It's more about what are you intending to use those words for, is it to curse someone with a nasty thought going through your head about bad things you want to happen to them? Sin, there's conviction.
If you don't feel conviction after putting someone down.... okay there's something wrong on a spiritual level.
So yeah, use the bible as a guide to which actions are sin.. and if the bible is silent on an action... don't assume it is sin just because some pastor told you it was.

Lifelong_sinner said:

so how do you know if you are born of God??

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When you find new life in His Spirit. You have to leave your life of sin and find new life in Jesus - time and again - if need be.

So self in wilful sin is a big fat goat, where we love doing it wrong, and hate right, and want to continue having life like that for we are enjoying it so much.

While self under grace is the sheep in us. Where we hate our sin and don't want to do wrong, but long to be right and love to find freedom from our sins.

When Jesus delivers us from our sins then the will to sin dies out of us, each day with Him as King some more, while in our repentant self we find new life. Where in the Spirit of God we have being and receive all the spiritual blessings which come with that, while in our sinful life we die.

The Word warns you brother to repent of sins and not continue in it unabated. Pray to Jesus to bring a Spirit of supplication over you, so that you will willingly break with your sins in favour of having life in Him and with Him. Life with Him is so very much better than enslaved to sin.

2 Peter 2:20-22
If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit, and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”

Honest know within myself that where once I loved doing it wrong a confessing Christian, that now in such selves I wail and gnash my teeth, for in such sinful selves i missed out on God's kingdom, and have been cast out like the weeds in the parables of Jesus and burned with fire. i died horrific deaths in such selves when the word cut me down on a Day i did not expect to see Him.

That is how Jesus got rid of all my wilful sinning selves, and set me free in His love to have life in His truth, while my life in lies dies, every day a bit more.

i warn ever believer that the wrath of God is very real, and just as it says in The Word it is. i know for sure that those of us who have life in wilful sin shall die there in, always, while those who repent of their sins and die to them will find new life in The spirit of God instead of sinful spirit and find true life.

Hebrews 12:25-29
"See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven? At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens. The words “once more” indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain.

Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our “God is a consuming fire."

Life with Jesus is so very much better than life in sin. Eating God's grace is what delivers us from our sins if we do become bothered by them. His loving grace splitting sheep, those selves in us were we mourn our sin and long for right, from goats, those selves in us where we love doing it wrong and don't love God nor neighbour but only ourselves, living right within us, and setting us free in our sheep, instead of being enslaved by the goats having to have life in sinful spirit instead of His Spirit.

you do have to be careful though, that sometimes people can border on preaching "sinless perfection" which is now an offense site wide.
We're repentant forgiven sinners ultimately.

Lifelong_sinner said:

hello all. simple question tonite. when i sin, its only certain sins that i feel bad about, while my habitual sins dont cause me any bad feelings. is this a sign that i dont have the Holy Spirit? do yall feel bad every time you sin?

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I usually feel bad if it's something I genuinely believe to be a sin. Once I realize that I've hurt another person -- or that I'm cultivating an attitude that's going to hurt my relationship with another person -- it does bother me that I've caused that injury.

As Jamdoc has noted, however, Christians sometimes disagree about what things are sins. There are some things that were viewed as sins by the church I grew up in that I no longer believe to be sinful. Dancing is one example: Dancing was prohibited at all social events held by my Christian K-12 school. I now believe that view was mistaken, and that dancing is not a sin after all. Thus, I do not feel bad when I dance (I think dancing is wonderful, actually!).

I've been curious, reading your posts in recent weeks, about the habitual sins you've described. You say they don't cause you any bad feelings. If you don't feel bad about the actions, do you genuinely believe the actions to be sinful? That is, is it an action that you can see is hurting someone, but you don't feel bad about hurting them? Or, rather, is it like my example of dancing -- an action that someone told you was sinful, but you don't truly, deep-down agree that it's sinful?

PloverWing said:

I usually feel bad if it's something I genuinely believe to be a sin. Once I realize that I've hurt another person -- or that I'm cultivating an attitude that's going to hurt my relationship with another person -- it does bother me that I've caused that injury.

As Jamdoc has noted, however, Christians sometimes disagree about what things are sins. There are some things that were viewed as sins by the church I grew up in that I no longer believe to be sinful. Dancing is one example: Dancing was prohibited at all social events held by my Christian K-12 school. I now believe that view was mistaken, and that dancing is not a sin after all. Thus, I do not feel bad when I dance (I think dancing is wonderful, actually!).

I've been curious, reading your posts in recent weeks, about the habitual sins you've described. You say they don't cause you any bad feelings. If you don't feel bad about the actions, do you genuinely believe the actions to be sinful? That is, is it an action that you can see is hurting someone, but you don't feel bad about hurting them? Or, rather, is it like my example of dancing -- an action that someone told you was sinful, but you don't truly, deep-down agree that it's sinful?

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Dancing is in fact, a form of worshiping the Lord.
I understand where some churches feel dancing is sinful, if it's done for a purpose of sexualizing people then yeah.
But dancing in celebration of something good? David did that for bringing the Ark to Jerusalem in 2 Samuel 6:14-16
Note that David was celebrating something Godly, so the context was right
and note that someone was not happy with David doing this and judging him for it, and I'd say.. unjustly.

also Psalm 149 and Psalm 150

1 Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.
2 Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.
3 Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.
4 For the Lord taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.
5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;
7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;
8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;
9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the Lord.

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1 Praise ye the Lord. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.
2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.
3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.
4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.
6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the Lord. Praise ye the Lord.

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Personally, while I hate singing, I have always loved dancing. I miss being able to do it, my body is just in no condition for it now, but loved to dance.
It'd better not be considered sin.
Because after decades of not being able to do something I loved doing? Giving me a new body? He'd have to declare it sin for me not to do it.

But I don't think He will, because He has promised me
Isaiah 35

4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.

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Anyway, despite being able to dance sinfully, dance itself is no more sin than singing, just as you can sing sinful songs.
But really, singing, and dancing are meant as acts of celebrating God and worship.

"when i sin, its only certain sins that i feel bad about, while my habitual sins dont cause me any bad feelings"




Sin is the transgression of the law, and the law was given against the lawless.

Christ came to earth, to give the knowledge of salvation, by the remission of our sins.

That knowledge is not to feel good or bad in sins, but to cease from them.

Then, right away, you know who has the knowledge of Christ, and who does not, as the ones who believe in righteousness, speak of righteousness, and the ones who do not believe in righteousness ( in their heart and unto the risen Lord Jesus Christ) speak of unrighteousness. Their discussion is about sin.


All the topics, and threads on this entire forum are about sin, ( and all forums and between all people on this earth right now ) what else would thy be, when the god of this world wills it that way, and when the wolves entered into the flock, and when the whole world is deceived by the beast.


Just because people try to seduce with great swelling words of vanity, or are lying in wait to deceive, or speak good words and fair speeches, to deceive the hearts of the simple, does not mean they are discussing about God, they are instead doing what God said they would be doing, turning the grace of God into lasciviousness, and wicked men crept in, ordained to that condemnation, ungodly men denying the only Lord God and the Lord that bought them Jesus Christ.

But, this thread is one of the much more obvious ones, whereas the others begin the other way around, by making a title and idea that they are discussing righteousness, then turn it around into unrighteousness. This one however, showing the depravity level, openly discusses sin, as if it is a discussion God wanted us to have, and that this somehow is their basis, on the righteousness of the Kingdom of Heaven ?


It i as far away from salvation as is possible, it is the same as the serpent appearing in the garden of Eden and advising Adam and Eve how to be with God?

Yes, that advise was to disobey God, to sin, and not die ? That somehow it is NOT DISOBEDIENCE, NOT SIN, AND NOT DEATH?


Nothing more to say, all are answered against the subtle deceivers on all the other threads on this whole salvation section of the forum, by me. People cant feel bad when they sin, they do not even feel bad having a discussion about sin.

Where do you want it brought down to, to hell to the sides of the pit?


The conversation is supposed to be in heaven, not in hell



Talk of sin is what those in hell do for eternity, wondering why their wicked way was not covered by grace



But in the ages to come, the conversation is of the glory of what the Lord Jesus Christ did for us ( taking the body of the sins away)



Philippians 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

2 Peter 2:7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.


Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Jamdoc said:

you do have to be careful though, that sometimes people can border on preaching "sinless perfection" which is now an offense site wide.
We're repentant forgiven sinners ultimately.

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Are you saying that we are now only allowed to advise people to continue in sin?

Lifelong_sinner said:

so how do you know if you are born of God??

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It is an experiences you cant forget.....and would not question, but is hard to explain.... You are changed.

It would be like someone asking Paul, how does he know he was knocked down and blinded on the street called strait. No one would be able to convince him that it did not happen.

Jeshu said:

When you find new life in His Spirit. You have to leave your life of sin and find new life in Jesus - time and again - if need be.

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I disagree. You do not find.....you are Found..... You do not leave sin.....Sin leaves you.... All by no works of your own.....lest any man should boast.

Raymond: "I disagree. You do not find.....you are Found..... You do not leave sin.....Sin leaves you.... All by no works of your own.....lest any man should boast."


That is fair/right enough Raymond.


Born again also, is when anyone stops seeking for themselves, that would be how they would not be able to describe it, as all who describe it are yet seeking it, and seeking for themselves.


It is a way I know instantly if anyone has the Spirit of Christ or not, by who they are talking about, and who for.

But to clarify more, and as Raymond mentioned, lest any man boast.


If God speaks for us, we are fortunate, if God says go up higher, we can do.

If we live, or die, all is by the Lord, and poor sheep in the world, have to be decided for, if they are top be killed, or left alive, and living yet.

The wolf devours them, it has no mercy, but sheep are harmless, unless they are the fat and the strong, and they are fed with judgement and are destroyed, but God feeds and strengthens the sick ( he gives grace to the humble).



Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

Ezekiel 34:16 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.

Luke 1:53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.

1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

Luke 14:10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.

James 4:13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain:
14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.
16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.



Zechariah 11:7 And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock.
8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
9 Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the Lord.

prophecy_uk said:

Where do you want it brought down to, to hell to the sides of the pit?


The conversation is supposed to be in heaven, not in hell



Talk of sin is what those in hell do for eternity, wondering why their wicked way was not covered by grace



But in the ages to come, the conversation is of the glory of what the Lord Jesus Christ did for us ( taking the body of the sins away)



Philippians 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

2 Peter 2:7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.


Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

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Lot was not damned, Lot was saved, and is used as an example for the rapture (Luke 17:28-29). He was backslidden like crazy but he's an example of it being grace that saves, and that salvation is not based on works or even how well YOU keep the law but is entirely based on the Goodness and Grace of God and the completed work of Jesus Christ.

as far as talking about sin...
Jesus talked about sin
so did Paul
so did John.

What we're talking about is someone struggling with sin, and trying to figure out, is he actually sinning against what God has deemed sin, or is he doing things that God has not said are sin but man has said is sin and worried about a lack of conviction?

Because from 1 John 3

19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

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If you're doing something that the bible has not condemned, but man condemns it, and you're not feeling conviction from the spirit.. I'd go out on a limb that it's not sin.
things as what have been mentioned in this thread like a gentile eating pork, or dancing.

while OP has not mentioned what he's doing that he thinks is sin, I'd advise that he look in the bible, see what the word of God says about this thought or behavior and help to determine "is this sin"?

because that may be the principal issue. Doing something that the world says is sin but God has not condemned.

Jam: "Lot was not damned, Lot was saved, and is used as an example for the rapture (Luke 17:28-29). He was backslidden like crazy but he's an example of it being grace that saves, and that salvation is not based on works or even how well YOU keep the law but is entirely based on the Goodness and Grace of God and the completed work of Jesus Christ.

as far as talking about sin...
Jesus talked about sin
so did Paul
so did John."




Lot is described by God as a righteous man, and by Jamdocs words, is backslidden like crazy, opposing God does not make you right, either use Gods word or be quiet when Gods word is exampled.

2 Peter 2:8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds


Jesus can talk about sin, as it had to be destroyed in man by placing it on His cross.

Paul had to teach the Gentiles, how to not be sinners as Israel in the covenant that is a curse of sin and death.

John was a witness of Christ, and witnesses have to speak about what they witnessed, which is Christ overcoming sin by sin being nailed to His cross in all its thoughts and accusations.

RaymondG said:

Are you saying that we are now only allowed to advise people to continue in sin?

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No, of course not the attitude is not to go on sinning but to wage war against sin.
But, the salvation issue is.. we're not saved by our ability to follow the law, we're saved by the fact that Jesus followed the law perfectly and took our sin on Himself and bestowed His righteousness on us.
Obedience is not out of trying to deserve or earn your way in
Obedience is out of love for Jesus and a desire to honor God.
so we wage war against sin.
But sometimes, we fail.

But John tells us in his first epistle
1 John 1:8-10

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

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and continuing on in 1 John 2:1-2

1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

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and Jesus Himself.. with this attitude on it.
Luke 17:3-4

3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

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it is the attitude of agreeing you're guilty and repenting from it that is important, not your track record.
But that begins with conviction, maybe chastisement or rebuking, to get the person to understand and agree, that they've sinned, and need to repent.
which is where OP comes in, he's feeling a lack of conviction.