Can Biden supporters name 1 area where america is better off under his regime

1rreducibly Complex said:

CNN: "Trump is too mentally unstable to have nuclear launch codes."

Fox News: "Joe Biden can't remember the launch codes."

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That IS one thing where Biden is better than Trump. But then I'm not a Biden supporter at all.

1rreducibly Complex said:

The keystone pipeline imported oil from canada.

Into the united states.

Joe Biden and democrats shut the pipeline down. They may have chosen to export oil which normally travels into the USA, into foreign markets instead.

Which of course, would drastically raise gasoline prices in america.

This is why some say Joe Biden and democrats put america last.

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Again, false. The fact is, the oil imported through the Keystone Pipeline was likely mostly going to be exported -- since the gulf refineries are already exporting 2/3rds of the oil they refine. Biden would have had nothing to do with that.

Instead, we know that trying to ship heavy crude through pipelines ends up with major oil spills. Even the short portion of Keystone Pipeline that has already been built had spilled 12,000 barrels of oil over a five year period. Oil sands oils are highly corrosive and cause major leaks in pipes -- again, because they are corrosive.

Putting triple the amount of oil through a pipeline that was thousands of miles longer would have led to some major oil spills, which is why Biden cancelled it. It had zero effect on the amount of American oil produced and shipped, nor did it effect the price of oil.

1rreducibly Complex said:

Which is more or less foreign.

Canada a bordering nation on the same continent.

Or the middle east on the other side of the planet.

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I don't know why this is so hard. Canada is *not* part of the US, or a US territory, therefore IT IS FOREIGN.

Goods that travel from Canada to the US are *IMPORTED*.

Canada is the same amount of foreign as Mexico (which is also an adjoining foreign nation on the same continent).

1rreducibly Complex said:

Which is more or less foreign.

Canada a bordering nation on the same continent.

Or the middle east on the other side of the planet.

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Foreign is foreign.

1rreducibly Complex said:

Gasoline prices are basic supply and demand.

Exporting less oil, increases the supply of oil in the US. Prices decline.

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This is a major oversimplification that doesn't work in the real world. Oil is a commodity and those that deal in it are in it to make money. If another country offers more money for oil, someone is going to sell to them (often US companies), and it will raise the price of oil worldwide.

Of course, the oil we are talking about here is foreign oil, specifically foreign oil from Canada and owned by "foreigners" who likely have no care if they sell it to Americans or foreigners -- they just want the best price. So, the foreign oil may be "exported" from the US if another country offers more money for the oil.

1rreducibly Complex said:

Exporting greater quantities of oil, as occurs under the Biden administration. Decreases supply. Oil and gas become scarce commodities. Prices skyrocket.

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What oil is Biden "exporting"? You were talking about the Keystone pipeline, which wouldn't have been completed until late next year, and likely 2023 (at a minimum). The Keystone oil is still being transported the same ways it would have been, even had the Keystone Pipeline construction continued. Not sure how a pipeline that won't deliver oil for at least another year would be effecting gas prices this spring and summer?

1rreducibly Complex said:

If you're disagreeing, you need to provide an alternative explanation behind the cost of fuel increasing.

Biden shutting down the keystone pipeline and exporting greater quantities of oil that were supposed to be imported into the US is the only explanation there is.

There is a very long list of weird things that were very bad for the country. That only happened after Biden was sworn in.

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If Canada doesn't send oil to the US, that is not the US "exporting" oil. And, again, the pipeline would not have been finished for at least another year. Nothing has changed about the amount of oil we are getting from Keystone. Even if the Keystone pipeline would have changed who we import oil from, it still wouldn't have happened for another year.

1rreducibly Complex said:

The keystone pipeline imported oil from canada.

Into the united states.

Joe Biden and democrats shut the pipeline down. They may have chosen to export oil which normally travels into the USA, into foreign markets instead.

Which of course, would drastically raise gasoline prices in america.

This is why some say Joe Biden and democrats put america last.

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Oil from Alberta will now go west and end up in China.

1rreducibly Complex said:

Gasoline prices are basic supply and demand.

Exporting less oil, increases the supply of oil in the US. Prices decline.

Exporting greater quantities oil as occurs under the Biden administration. Decreases supply. Oil and gas become scarce commodities. Prices increase.

If you're disagreeing, you need to provide an alternative explanation behind the cost of fuel increasing.

Biden shutting down the keystone pipeline and exporting greater quantities of oil that were supposed to be imported into the US is the only explanation there is.

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exporting less oil does not necessarily make prices decline. Not all oil is equal and it may be oil we don't use/want and others do, and beyond that it primarily the production of oil, not the export or import that affects the price, since it is a global market. Using less oil will also drop prices by reducing demand.

prices are up because use is up as economies recover from covid, and because production has decreased. Things are ramping back up, and winter is coming on top of it. I would expect prices to drop unless OPEC cuts back again.

Desk trauma said:

Saying that Canadian oil isn’t foreign is beyond a semantic error. It’s nonsensical to say we are less dependent on foreign oil by importing foreign oil.

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They aren’t foreign they’re white.

1rreducibly Complex said:

Trump supported the keystone oil pipeline which brought gas prices down and made america less dependant on foreign oil.

Biden canceled the keystone pipeline, which had all of the opposite effects.

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Keystone pipeline didn't get done. How will a pipeline that doesn't exist affect prices? Spoiler ..it will not.

1rreducibly Complex said:

Donald Trump was a far better President.

Than Joe Biden is now.

Can supporters of Joe Biden name a single thing Biden does better than Trump as President?

I doubt they can. But it could be entertaining and humorous to see them try.

CNN: "Trump is too mentally unstable to have nuclear launch codes."

Fox News: "Joe Biden can't remember the launch codes."

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You do realize that this image has nothing to do with gas prices in the last 5 years per gallon in this country. Even worse posting obviously false information that is easily checked just reduces your credibility to zero. Everybody who sees this can comfortably dismiss anything you say as you are obviously not an informed or honest person. Is that really how you wish to come across?

1rreducibly Complex said:

Trump supported the keystone oil pipeline which brought gas prices down and made america less dependant on foreign oil.

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What? Stage IV wasn't built in Trump's time, how does a planned pipeline bring down oil prices. Heck, how does an existing pipeline bring down oil prices? Also, how dos a pipeline which brings in oil from Canada help make you less dependent on foreign oil?

Biden canceled the keystone pipeline, which had all of the opposite effects.

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So to reiterate, it's your belief just saying yes to a pipeline brings down prices, and just saying no sends them up, even though said pipeline doesn't exist. Obama said no, and the oil prices in his time were about the same as Trumps.

You really thing the base price of Crude and the activities of OPEC, neither of which are in anyway controllable by the US president, aren't maybe a bit more relevant?

1rreducibly Complex said:

The two available options are

1. Oil pipeline
2. Transport oil by rail and train

Pipelines do the job cheaper and more reliably.

Eliminating keystone means oil will be transported by rail instead. Which is a lose/lose scenario for all involved. The owners of the rail who profit.

But there were other steps the Biden administration took which drastically increased the cost of oil and gasoline in the US.

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Maybe you should tell us about those.

rambot said:

Keystone pipeline didn't get done. How will a pipeline that doesn't exist affect prices? Spoiler ..it will not.

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We’d’ve surely had 23¢/gal gasoline, though.
Yup.

1rreducibly Complex said:

All phases of the pipeline (except the last phase) were completed and operational when Biden shut it down.

Keystone Pipeline - Wikipedia

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Biden didn't shut the 1st 3 phases down. Only the 4th which wasn't built yet. Did you even read your own source???

Phase 1 (complete)
Keystone 30 in (760 mm) pipeline (phase 1) near Swanton, Nebraska (2009)
This 3,456-kilometre-long (2,147 mi) pipeline runs from Hardisty, Alberta, to the junction at Steele City, Nebraska, and on to the Wood River Refinery in Roxana, Illinois, and Patoka Oil Terminal Hub (tank farm) north of Patoka, Illinois.[101] The Canadian section involves approximately 864 kilometres (537 mi) of pipeline converted from the Canadian Mainline natural gas pipeline and 373 kilometres (232 mi) of new pipeline, pump stations and terminal facilities at Hardisty, Alberta.[102]

The United States section is 2,219 kilometres (1,379 mi) long.[102] It runs through Nemaha, Brown and Doniphan counties in Kansas and Buchanan, Clinton, Caldwell, Montgomery, Lincoln and St. Charles counties in Missouri, before entering Madison County, Illinois.[38] Phase 1 went online in June 2010.[1]

Phase 2 (complete)
The Keystone-Cushing pipeline phase connected the Keystone pipeline (phase 1) in Steele City, Nebraska, south through Kansas to the oil hub and tank farm in Cushing, Oklahoma, a distance of 468 kilometres (291 mi) long. It was constructed in 2010 and went online in February 2011.[3]
Truck hauling 36 in (910 mm) pipe to build Keystone-Cushing pipeline (phase 2) southeast of Peabody, Kansas (2010)
Phase 3a (complete)
The Cushing MarketLink pipeline phase started at Cushing, Oklahoma, where American-produced oil is added to the pipeline, then runs south 435 miles (700 km) to a delivery point near terminals in Nederland, Texas, to serve refineries in the Port Arthur, Texas, area. Keystone started pumping oil through this section in January 2014.[4][5][103] Oil producers in the U.S. pushed for this phase so the glut of oil can be distributed out of the large oil tank farms and distribution center in Cushing.
Phase 3b (complete)
The Houston Lateral pipeline phase is a 47-mile (76 km) pipeline to transport crude oil from the pipeline in Liberty County, Texas, to refineries and terminal in the Houston area. This phase was constructed 2013 to 2016 and went online in 2017.[6]

Phase 4 (cancelled)