One Reason to Reject Amill Doctrine

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Not only that, but why would Paul go from saying he hoped that some of them would be saved in Romans 11:14 to saying they would all be saved in verse 26? Did he suddenly change his mind in that short amount of time and decide that they would all be saved after just saying he hoped some of them would be saved? That doesn't make any sense.

It makes much more sense to see that he was talking about a different Israel of which all are saved, which is the spiritual Israel he had previously wrote about in Romans 9:6-8. The ones who are part of that Israel are not the children of God by natural descent but rather by being the spiritual children of the promise. We can see in Galatians 3:26-29 that the spiritual children of the promise are the spiritual seed of Abraham which are all of those with faith in Christ, including both Jew and Gentile believers.

Premils have Paul contradicting himself in his Romans 9-11 discourse. In one breath in Romans 9:27 he is saying “a remnant shall be saved” (future, passive, indicative), in the next, in Romans 11:26, he is saying “all Israel shall be saved” (future, passive, indicative).
 
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Proverbs 27:20


There is always "something else" that we want on top of what we have.
That verse is not talking about a scenario like experiencing 1000 years of bliss and not being satisfied with that. It's about a scenario like having a lot of wealth and wanting more during this lifetime.

Remember, after the resurrection, which comes before the MK, there is no marriage (Matthew 22:30) you don't think anyone's going to disagree with God on that just because of "glory"?
Why would any believer disagree with God on anything knowing that He is right about everything?

Angels beheld God in His full glory and still rebelled, man walked with God in the garden of Eden and still rebelled.
It takes more than glory.
God isn't a genie in a bottle giving us everything we want, anything we want that is not fulfilled by God.. we tend to look outside of God.
Those are not comparable scenarios. The fallen angels rebelled and Adam and Eve rebelled, but they did not try to attack God and destroy Him.

In Revelation 20:7-9, if taken literally from the premil perspective, it describes a number of people as the sand of the sea from all around the world deciding that 1000 years of bliss wasn't satisfying to them and describes them coming together and converging upon Jesus and "the camp of the saints" with the intention of destroying Him and His people. How would they think they could destroy Jesus and His people after experiencing His power and glory for 1000 years? How would they not know after all that time of being with Him that they couldn't possibly defeat Him? Why would they even want to? It's one thing to decide you want to do your own thing, but another thing entirely to decide they want to destroy the One who just provided 1000 years of peace on earth for them.
 
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Premils have Paul contradicting himself in his Romans 9-11 discourse. In one breath in Romans 9:27 he is saying “a remnant shall be saved” (future, passive, indicative), in the next, in Romans 11:26, he is saying “all Israel shall be saved” (future, passive, indicative).
Right. How can they not acknowledge this? I have much more respect for Paul than to think he would contradict himself or to think that he couldn't make up his mind about how much of Israel would be saved.

It should be clear that he was talking about two different Israels in those verses (Rom 9:27 and Rom 11:26) just like he did in Romans 9:6-8. Of national Israel, a remnant shall be saved. Of spiritual Israel, they all shall be saved.
 
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Right. How can they not acknowledge this? I have much more respect for Paul than to think he would contradict himself or to think that he couldn't make up his mind about how much of Israel would be saved.

It should be clear that he was talking about two different Israels in those verses (Rom 9:27 and Rom 11:26) just like he did in Romans 9:6-8. Of national Israel, a remnant shall be saved. Of spiritual Israel, they all shall be saved.

You hit the nail on the head.
 
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There is no such thing as corporate salvation – not in the Old Testament, nor in the New Testament. This is a modern theological innovation. Whilst no one could surely deny that an all-powerful God would have any difficulty in performing that, Scripture does not present salvation as a wholesale ethnic national experience. It is very much an individual thing and is open to both Jews and Gentiles equally. One just has to look at Hebrews 11 to see that. There, the Old Testament saints are seen to be justified in the same way we are today. Time after time it states: “By faith Abel” (Hebrews 11:4), “By faith Enoch” (Hebrews 11:5), “By faith Noah” (Hebrews 11:7), “By faith Abraham” (Hebrews 11:8), “By faith Isaac” (Hebrews 11:20), “By faith Jacob” (Hebrews 11:21), etc, etc. Here we see the personal aspect of salvation. It was like that before the cross. It is life that after the cross. Salvation was always by grace through faith.

Corporate election, not corporate salvation.

You obviously have no clue what that means, because you think election equates to irresistible grace and salvation, which it doesn’t.

Israel is an elect nation, but not all of them are saved, or will be saved.

The text that follows falsifies reformed election dogma,

Peter says we have to MAKE our calling and ELECTION sure, by ADDING to our faith the FRUIT of virtue, Godliness, and love (charity), and he says that IF WE DO that, we won’t FALL, and we will have an entrance into heaven.


2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;


2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness (living a righteous life);


2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.


2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.


2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.


2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:


2Pe 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.



That our election isn’t SURE until we MAKE it sure, by adding the fruit to our faith of virtue, Godliness, and love - and will fall if we don’t make it sure - is fatal to reformed election doctrine and Calvinism.
 
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Corporate election, not corporate salvation.

You obviously have no clue what that means, because you think election equates to irresistible grace and salvation, which it doesn’t.

Israel is an elect nation, but not all of them are saved, or will be saved.

The text that follows falsifies reformed election dogma,

Peter says we have to MAKE our calling and ELECTION sure, by ADDING to our faith the FRUIT of virtue, Godliness, and love (charity), and he says that IF WE DO that, we won’t FALL, and we will have an entrance into heaven.


2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;


2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness (living a righteous life);


2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.


2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.


2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.


2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:


2Pe 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.



That our election isn’t SURE until we MAKE it sure, by adding the fruit to our faith of virtue, Godliness, and love - and will fall if we don’t make it sure - is fatal to reformed election doctrine and Calvinism.

Ethnic Israel is not an elect nation under the new covenant. Please come into the NT. Read Romans 9-11 objectively. You will see there are 2 Israels, one elect and the other blinded. The election belongs alone to the elect. Simple!
 
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Corporate election, not corporate salvation.

You obviously have no clue what that means, because you think election equates to irresistible grace and salvation, which it doesn’t.
You are clearly not reading the text carefully. In the following passage Paul associates election directly with salvation:

Romans 11:1 1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. 7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. 9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. 11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. 12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? 13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: 14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

Look at Romans 11:5-6. It says election is by grace and not of works. Does that not remind you of this passage that is obviously talking about salvation?

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Look at Romans 11 verses 11 and 14. Paul is clearly talking about salvation there. So, that is what he is talking about in Romans 11. To be elect means you are saved. A remnant in Paul's day were elected/saved. How can only a remnant being elected refer to corporate election? If it was corporate election they would all be elected, but it's only a remnant instead.

By the way, don't respond to me with anything about Calvinism because I'm not a Calvinist. This has nothing to do with that.
 
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That verse is not talking about a scenario like experiencing 1000 years of bliss and not being satisfied with that. It's about a scenario like having a lot of wealth and wanting more during this lifetime.

Why would any believer disagree with God on anything knowing that He is right about everything?

Those are not comparable scenarios. The fallen angels rebelled and Adam and Eve rebelled, but they did not try to attack God and destroy Him.

In Revelation 20:7-9, if taken literally from the premil perspective, it describes a number of people as the sand of the sea from all around the world deciding that 1000 years of bliss wasn't satisfying to them and describes them coming together and converging upon Jesus and "the camp of the saints" with the intention of destroying Him and His people. How would they think they could destroy Jesus and His people after experiencing His power and glory for 1000 years? How would they not know after all that time of being with Him that they couldn't possibly defeat Him? Why would they even want to? It's one thing to decide you want to do your own thing, but another thing entirely to decide they want to destroy the One who just provided 1000 years of peace on earth for them.

it's almost a rhetorical question any time it's asked, but it is asked, and it continues to happen.

Psalm 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

We are NEVER satisfied and we always want more than given. That is the nature of free will.
 
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We are NEVER satisfied and we always want more than given. That is the nature of free will.


It seems to me that has already been proven from the very beginning, meaning Eve's encounter with the serpent.
 
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as an aside, I cannot stomach Replacement Theology and it is one of the poisons I see in Amillennialism.
If you're going to make comments like this then you need to clearly define Replacement Theology and explain exactly how you think Amillennialism promotes that. I don't believe it does based on my understanding of what replacement theology is, but I also am not sure how you personally define it.
 
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If you're going to make comments like this then you need to clearly define Replacement Theology and explain exactly how you think Amillennialism promotes that. I don't believe it does based on my understanding of what replacement theology is, but I also am not sure how you personally define it.

The belief that God is "done" with the Jewish people and has replaced them with the gentile Church, making the tribes of Israel no longer have a place in prophecy with mentions of prophecies involving Israel basically just being replaced by "the Church". It has been used as justification for Antisemitism.

I believe that the genetic descendents of Abraham still have a role to play, and that like I said, Matthew 23:39 was a prophetic statement, aimed towards currently unbelieving Jews.
 
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it's almost a rhetorical question any time it's asked, but it is asked, and it continues to happen.

Psalm 2


We are NEVER satisfied and we always want more than given. That is the nature of free will.
You said "we". Are you including yourself among the heathen, which are the ones that passage is talking about? If so, why? We who belong to Christ are not heathen. Are you not satisfied with what you have? I am satisfied with what I have. Before I became saved I wasn't, but now I know that I don't deserve to have anything, so I'm satisfied with whatever I have. I know this isn't my home and I'm trying to store treasures in heaven and not here.

Anyway, if you think a number of people as the sand of the sea would not be satisfied with 1000 years of bliss while having the privilege of being with the King of kings and Lord of lords in all His glory then so be it. I think such a scenario is very farfetched.
 
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You said "we". Are you including yourself among the heathen, which are the ones that passage is talking about? If so, why? We who belong to Christ are not heathen. Are you not satisfied with what you have? I am satisfied with what I have. Before I became saved I wasn't, but now I know that I don't deserve to have anything, so I'm satisfied with whatever I have. I know this isn't my home and I'm trying to store treasures in heaven and not here.

Anyway, if you think a number of people as the sand of the sea would not be satisfied with 1000 years of bliss while having the privilege of being with the King of kings and Lord of lords in all His glory then so be it. I think such a scenario is very farfetched.

The "We" is all beings with free will. Specifically mankind, but also inclusive of Angels, as they have rebelled as well.
Who rebels when they're totally satisfied with what they have?

Anyway, I think the bible clearly supports the idea that just "beholding Jesus in all His glory" does not once and for all prevent all rebellion, as 1/3 of Angels dwelled in Heaven and know God in all His glory and still rebelled, so yes, I believe that even after 1000 years of peace, a number of men who aren't fully satisfied with the situation that could number in the billions, will rebel again, and I believe it, because I myself, can understand glory alone not being a cause for love, and I currently have unfulfilled needs and (good) desires.
I know I don't deserve anything
doesn't mean I'm happy without those needs met.
People never think about whether or not Jeremiah wanted to have a family. He obeyed the Lord but you could never classify him as a happy person. Elijah asked God to KILL HIM.
Serving God.. and still being quite unhappy people.
God values holiness over happiness.
 
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The belief that God is "done" with the Jewish people and has replaced them with the gentile Church, making the tribes of Israel no longer have a place in prophecy with mentions of prophecies involving Israel basically just being replaced by "the Church". It has been used as justification for Antisemitism.
That is not what Amillennialists believe. And we certainly do not promote Antisemitism. We agree with what Paul said here:

Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,

Paul offered himself as evidence that God did not cast away all the Israelites because he himself was an Israelite. He said in Romans 11:5 that there was a remnant of Israelites who were saved in his day and there have been Israelites being saved every day ever since.

What Amil does believe is what Paul teaches elsewhere in Romans 11 which is that unbelieving Israelites were cut off while believing Israelites remained and Gentile believers were grafted in. No one was replaced. If anyone, whether an Israelite or a Gentile, doesn't believe they are cut off and anyone who believes is grafted in. Again, no one is replaced. If none were cut off there'd still be plenty of room for more to be grafted in so it isn't as if some need to be cut off in order to make room for others to replace them. That would be replacement theology, but that is not what Amil teaches.

Amillennialism recognizes when New Testament scripture clarifies what the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies and promises is all about. For example, Paul clarified in Galatians 3:16-29 that the promises God made to Abraham's seed were made to Christ (Gal 3:16) and are applied to those who belong to Christ as well (Gal 3:29). That is not something that is made clear in the Old Testament text. But we should accept how the New Testament explains what the Old Testament prophecies mean.

Another thing that was not made clear in the Old Testament is that Gentile believers would be fellow heirs of God's promises with Israelite believers. God purposely made that a mystery that was revealed in the New Testament.

Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Jew and Gentile believers have been brought together as one body, as Paul wrote about in Ephesians 2:11-22. God has graciously allowed Gentile believers to experience the same blessings that were promised to Israel in Old Testament times. That was a mystery in Old Testament times, but is not a mystery now. Dispensationalists like yourself don't seem to understand that despite the New Testament making that clear repeatedly. It isn't that Gentile believers have replaced Israel. We have been grafted in with them and made fellow heirs with them. No one has been replaced and no one will ever be replaced. To say that Amillennialism promotes replacement theology is a false accusation.
 
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The "We" is all beings with free will.
So, you are including yourself among the heathen. That is unbelievable.

Specifically mankind, but also inclusive of Angels, as they have rebelled as well.
Who rebels when they're totally satisfied with what they have?
Psalm 2 specifically refers to unbelievers, not believers. How can you not discern that? Continue reading after verse 5 and see what it says Christ will do to the heathen:

Psalm 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Do you think this passage applies to you?
 
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This is a lie and complete nonsense and you should be ashamed of yourself for saying it. You should change your name to "Just Baseless Nonsense".

The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night and "sudden destruction" by fire on the entire earth from which "they shall not escape" will occur on that day. How does what you're saying line up with that? What Peter and Paul described about the day of the Lord has to do with complete global destruction occurring at that time. They do not describe the day of the Lord as being some thousand year period of time at all.

What Peter was talking about in 2 Peter 3:8 relates directly to 2 Peter 3:9. It has to do with the fact that time has no effect on the Lord and the reason He hasn't come back yet is because He doesn't want anyone to perish and is patiently giving people time to repent. It may seem like a long time to us for Him to return, but it's not a long time to Him. That's all 2 Peter 3:8 means. It's not referring to a thousand year time period at all. It's a description of how God looks at time. He created the realm of time and space and exists outside of it, so of course a day is no different than a thousand years to Him. A day is no different than a million years to Him.

Jesus, Paul and Peter all taught the same thing, which is that all unbelievers will be destroyed when Jesus returns.

Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

1 Thess 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

2 Thess 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

These passages couldn't be more clear that no unbeliever will survive the day of Christ's return. What mortals does that leave to populate the earth for a thousand years after that? Believers will all be changed and have immortality at that point (1 Cor 15:50-54). Peter said that according to the promise of Christ's second coming we're looking forward to the new heavens and new earth, not a temporal earthly kingdom (2 Peter 3:13).
Can you prove that Noah went into the ark after the tribulation started? What about when the tribulation was over, was that when Noah entered the Ark?
 
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You seem to have this mistaken notion that Peter was saying that one thousand years to God are equivalent to one 24 hour day, so that means the day of the Lord is a thousand years long. But, that can't be the case because that would mean time does affect God to some extent. But it does not! Peter saying that a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is a day is a figurative way of saying that time does not affect the Lord, so He doesn't look at time like we do. That's it. It has nothing to do with identifying the length of time of the day of the Lord whatsoever.
I think that God is longsuffering towards sin. It is sin that is enjoying 1991 years since the Cross.
 
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Can you prove that Noah went into the ark after the tribulation started? What about when the tribulation was over, was that when Noah entered the Ark?
I see that you are still in the business of asking ridiculous and irrelevant questions. Why do you do it?

I think that God is longsuffering towards sin. It is sin that is enjoying 1991 years since the Cross.
I'm not sure exactly what you were intending to say here, but it's definitely true that He is longsuffering towards your sin and my sin and everyone's sin. And He doesn't want anyone to perish and wants everyone to repent of their sins, as Peter wrote in 2 Peter 3:9. It is because of that fact that it has taken as long as it has for Jesus to return.
 
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That is not what Amillennialists believe. And we certainly do not promote Antisemitism. We agree with what Paul said here:

Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,

Paul offered himself as evidence that God did not cast away all the Israelites because he himself was an Israelite. He said in Romans 11:5 that there was a remnant of Israelites who were saved in his day and there have been Israelites being saved every day ever since.

What Amil does believe is what Paul teaches elsewhere in Romans 11 which is that unbelieving Israelites were cut off while believing Israelites remained and Gentile believers were grafted in. No one was replaced. If anyone, whether an Israelite or a Gentile, doesn't believe they are cut off and anyone who believes is grafted in. Again, no one is replaced. If none were cut off there'd still be plenty of room for more to be grafted in so it isn't as if some need to be cut off in order to make room for others to replace them. That would be replacement theology, but that is not what Amil teaches.

Amillennialism recognizes when New Testament scripture clarifies what the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies and promises is all about. For example, Paul clarified in Galatians 3:16-29 that the promises God made to Abraham's seed were made to Christ (Gal 3:16) and are applied to those who belong to Christ as well (Gal 3:29). That is not something that is made clear in the Old Testament text. But we should accept how the New Testament explains what the Old Testament prophecies mean.

Another thing that was not made clear in the Old Testament is that Gentile believers would be fellow heirs of God's promises with Israelite believers. God purposely made that a mystery that was revealed in the New Testament.

Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Jew and Gentile believers have been brought together as one body, as Paul wrote about in Ephesians 2:11-22. God has graciously allowed Gentile believers to experience the same blessings that were promised to Israel in Old Testament times. That was a mystery in Old Testament times, but is not a mystery now. Dispensationalists like yourself don't seem to understand that despite the New Testament making that clear repeatedly. It isn't that Gentile believers have replaced Israel. We have been grafted in with them and made fellow heirs with them. No one has been replaced and no one will ever be replaced. To say that Amillennialism promotes replacement theology is a false accusation.

I'm not a dispensationalist.
I don't know what my stance is on that in a theological term, but it is neither replacement theology, nor dispensationalism.
Dispensationalism teaches that in the past Jews really were justified by animal sacrifices.. and I say no, it was a sign pointing to Jesus in place of not actually having the Messiah there to atone for them but it was an act of faith and obedience that was credited to Christ in the future. Dispensationalists also believe that after the "Church age" (one of their favorite terms, one of my least favorite terms along with "seven year tribulation") that Jews will once again be saved by the law. Miss me with that malarkey please.
Romans 4 and Hebrews 11 clearly teach that it has always been grace that saves. There are no different dispensations.
That said, God does have a place for direct descendants of Abraham, having made covenants with Abraham, Moses, and David, and in Jeremiah 31:35-37 reiterating this promise. I don't believe He means that only a single descendant of Abraham (Jesus) along with a bunch of gentiles is the fulfillment of that promise.
But rather there will always exist direct descendants of Abraham as a multitude.
Now those Jews that are the remnant, will have to accept Jesus.
Like I have said, Matthew 23:39, I believe that's what is being referred to, that when the remnant of National Israel accepts the Messiah, that's when all Israel will be saved and He'll return.
 
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