Do I demonstrate love for Jesus if I love the Law

Blaise N said:

Hi guys I have another question,


One thing I do love about following God is I love his law,the 10 commandments and the law of Christ,I’m struggling with To love the lord your God with all your heart,soul,mind,and strength because I don’t feel any love for Jesus,but I desire to.But I do love the lifestyle he calls his followers to live,if I love his laws,do I demonstrate I love him?

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The main thing Jesus taught was to love God and to others as yourself. Jesus asked Peter 3 times if he loved Him, Peter answered yes, Jesus replied feed my lambs.

I get from this that the way we treat people is most important.

Blaise N said:

Hi guys I have another question,


One thing I do love about following God is I love his law,the 10 commandments and the law of Christ,I’m struggling with To love the lord your God with all your heart,soul,mind,and strength because I don’t feel any love for Jesus,but I desire to.But I do love the lifestyle he calls his followers to live,if I love his laws,do I demonstrate I love him?

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That’s a great question

You are absolutely on the right path

Let me tell you why

If you love the laws, AND practice those in your daily interactions with other people, then you ARE loving the Lord your God.

That is the definition of loving the Lord your God.

Keep up the good work, and keep asking super questions.

imo

Blaise N said:

Hi guys I have another question,


One thing I do love about following God is I love his law,the 10 commandments and the law of Christ,I’m struggling with To love the lord your God with all your heart,soul,mind,and strength because I don’t feel any love for Jesus,but I desire to.But I do love the lifestyle he calls his followers to live,if I love his laws,do I demonstrate I love him?

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Jhn 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments.

Jhn 14:21 “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”

1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

2Jo 1:6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.

Michael Collum said:

The main thing Jesus taught was to love God and to others as yourself. Jesus asked Peter 3 times if he loved Him, Peter answered yes, Jesus replied feed my lambs.

I get from this that the way we treat people is most important.

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You are obeying the law of Moses with that statement "to love God and to others as yourself."

The commandment that Jesus gave is a bit different to how we love others under the law.

John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

See that?

Love others not as you love yourself, but love others as Christ has loved you.

Christ's love is divine, eternal love where as our personal love of ourselves is fickle. There are days when I certainly do not love myself. Therefore on those days I will not love others.

See the difference?

One is defined by the law and the other is the law of Christ.

HTacianas said:

Jhn 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments.

Jhn 14:21 “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”

1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

2Jo 1:6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.

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These two commandments are the commandments Jesus gave us.

1 John 3:23-24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

Blaise N said:

Hi guys I have another question,


One thing I do love about following God is I love his law,the 10 commandments and the law of Christ,I’m struggling with To love the lord your God with all your heart,soul,mind,and strength because I don’t feel any love for Jesus,but I desire to.But I do love the lifestyle he calls his followers to live,if I love his laws,do I demonstrate I love him?

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It is impossible to love the Father without loving Jesus. No one has ever seen the Father, known the Father, or even heard the Father.

Jesus is the full revelation of God in human form.

No one goes to the Father except through Jesus Christ.

The scripture is all about Jesus!

Blaise N said:

Hi guys I have another question,


One thing I do love about following God is I love his law,the 10 commandments and the law of Christ,I’m struggling with To love the lord your God with all your heart,soul,mind,and strength because I don’t feel any love for Jesus,but I desire to.But I do love the lifestyle he calls his followers to live,if I love his laws,do I demonstrate I love him?

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Hello,

In Exodus 20:6, God wanted His people to love him and obey His commandments, so the giving of the Ten Commandments in the proceeding verses is directly connected to what it means to love God. God is righteous, so by expressing God's righteousness or other aspects of God's nature through our obedience to His law, we are expressing our love for the nature of who He is, and our love for Christ, who is the exact expression of God's nature (Hebrews 1:3). In 1 John 5:3, to love God is to keep His commandments, which are not burdensome, and there are many other verses in both the OT and the NT that associate our love for God with our obedience to Him, so it is not much that obedience to anything that God could have commanded is a way to love Christ, but that all of the laws that God specifically chose to give were all chosen for the purpose of teaching us how to love Christ.

klutedavid said:

These two commandments are the commandments Jesus gave us.

1 John 3:23-24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

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Mat 28:20 “teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen

HTacianas said:

Mat 28:20 “teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen

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Jesus was talking to the Jews who were under the law. Jesus was not speaking to the Gentiles. We Gentiles were grafted in at a later date.

That is why we pay extra close attention to what Paul tells us, as Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles.

If we Gentiles had to observe the law, we would have been told to observe the law.

Paul tells us that we are not under the law.

We are forbidden from circumcision. Jesus was circumcised but the Gentiles are not.

So we know that the law is not applicable to the Gentiles.

klutedavid said:

You are obeying the law of Moses with that statement "to love God and to others as yourself."

The commandment that Jesus gave is a bit different to how we love others under the law.

John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

See that?

Love others not as you love yourself, but love others as Christ has loved you.

Christ's love is divine, eternal love where as our personal love of ourselves is fickle. There are days when I certainly do not love myself. Therefore on those days I will not love others.

See the difference?

One is defined by the law and the other is the law of Christ.

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Foundation first, then build.

I recommend that you study Galatians 2 very deeply. You'll have your answer.

klutedavid said:

You are obeying the law of Moses with that statement "to love God and to others as yourself."

The commandment that Jesus gave is a bit different to how we love others under the law.

John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

See that?

Love others not as you love yourself, but love others as Christ has loved you.

Christ's love is divine, eternal love where as our personal love of ourselves is fickle. There are days when I certainly do not love myself. Therefore on those days I will not love others.

See the difference?

One is defined by the law and the other is the law of Christ.

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In Matthew 22:36-40, Jesus summarized the Mosaic Law as being about how to love God and our neighbor, so that is how he expressed his love for us and how we are to love as he loved. When we are commanded to love our neighbors as ourselves, then the next question is how then should we love ourselves? The answer is that we should love ourselves as God loves us, and if we do that, then we will correctly understand the command to love our neighbor as ourselves to be the command to love our neighbor as God loves us. So Jesus was not making a distinction in disagreement with what the Father commanded by teaching his own laws, but rather he was fulfilling the law by teaching how to correctly obey it.

klutedavid said:

These two commandments are the commandments Jesus gave us.

1 John 3:23-24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

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God's names also teach us about aspects of His nature. A chip off the old block is someone who has the same nature as their father and this is the sense that Jesus is the Son of God in that the Son is the exact expression of God's nature (Hebrews 1:3), which he expressed through his actions by living in sinless obedience to God's law, so that is are core part of his identity. This is also the sense that we are sons of God when we are partaking in the divine nature through our obedience to God's law, which is why those who do not practice righteousness in obedience to God's law are not sons of God (1 John 3:4-10), and which is why those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way he walked (1 John 2:6). The Spirit is the nature of God, which is why all of the fruits of the Spirit are aspects of God's nature and why the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey God's law (Ezekiel 36:26-27). When we express God's righteousness and other aspects of His nature through our obedience to His law, we are testifying what we believe to be true about the nature of God, or in other words, we are believing in him, so all of this is tied up in what it means to believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and these verses that not making a distinction between the Father's commandments.

klutedavid said:

Jesus was talking to the Jews who were under the law. Jesus was not speaking to the Gentiles. We Gentiles were grafted in at a later date.

That is why we pay extra close attention to what Paul tells us, as Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles.

If we Gentiles had to observe the law, we would have been told to observe the law.

Paul tells us that we are not under the law.

We are forbidden from circumcision. Jesus was circumcised but the Gentiles are not.

So we know that the law is not applicable to the Gentiles.

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Gentiles are requires to refrain from sin and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4). If Gentiles were not under God's law, then Gentiles would have no need to refrain from sin, would have no need of Jesus to have given himself to redeem us from all lawlessness, would have no need of the Gospel, and would have no need of salvation. In Romans 6:14, Paul describe the law that we are not under as being a law where sin had dominion over us, which does not describe God's law, which is a law where holiness, righteousness, and goodness have dominion over us (Romans 7:12), but rather it is the law of sin where sin had dominion over us. In Romans 6:15, being under grace does not mean that we are permitted to sin, and sin is the transgression of God's law, so we are still under it. Furthermore, everything else in Roman 6 speaks in favor of obedience to God's law and against sin, so you are quote mining. Paul spoke against circumcision for the purpose of earning our justification, however, that was never the purpose for which God commanded it, so Paul only spoke against circumcision for the wrong reason, and never taught against Gentiles obeying God.

I think observing the law and loving the law are not quite the same. A legalistic person may observe the law as much as they can, thinking it pleases God. Loving the law will make it easier to observe and obey the law the way God intends us to. Psalm 119 is filled with statements about loving the law.

alive2Christ said:

I think observing the law and loving the law are not quite the same. A legalistic person may observe the law as much as they can, thinking it pleases God. Loving the law will make it easier to observe and obey the law the way God intends us to. Psalm 119 is filled with statements about loving the law.

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The Bible often uses the same terms to describe aspects of the nature of God as it does to describe aspects of the nature of God's law, such as with it being holy, righteous, and good (Romans 7:12), and it could not be accurately described as such if it were not God's instructions for how to act in accordance with those aspects of His nature. When we act in accordance with an aspect of God's nature, we are expressing our love for that aspect of who God is, which is why there are many verses in both the OT and the NT that connect our love for God with our obedience to His commandments. So everything that God chose to command was specifically commanded in order to teach us how to love a different aspect of who He is. However, someone can obey the law without acting in accordance with God's nature, such as in Matthew 23:23, where Jesus said that tithing is something that they ought to be doing while not neglecting weightier of the law of justice, mercy, and faith, however, they are missing the goal of the law, so they are not really obeying it.

Blaise N said:

Hi guys I have another question,


One thing I do love about following God is I love his law,the 10 commandments and the law of Christ,I’m struggling with To love the lord your God with all your heart,soul,mind,and strength because I don’t feel any love for Jesus,but I desire to.But I do love the lifestyle he calls his followers to live,if I love his laws,do I demonstrate I love him?

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HEATHEN ALERT: IANAC

I’m pretty sure that in your “Faith” the love that you love Jesus with isn’t a feeling at all, but a reflection (back-to-Him) of His zoë “Life”. If you plan on working out (your salvation) through the use of your own, “natural emotions”, yeah, you‘re going to “run into trouble”. js.