Anti-Maskers Yell “Heil Hitler” With Nazi Salute At Michigan School Board Meeting

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Nazis attack school board over mask mandates to protect students and teachers.

I'm pretty sure it was done to mock the school board in implying "they" were nazis.

Not that they were right in doing so but this is very misleading.
 
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And the capitol insurgents were just tourists, right?

Laura Ingraham's brother has revealed their father kept a copy of Mein Kampf on the family's living room shelf, vowing he "cannot stay quiet" about their shared past.

Curtis Ingraham, a self-described "sibling fact-checker," is known for speaking out against his conservative Fox News host sister.

"My father was a Nazi sympathizer. There was a copy of Mein Kampf on the living room bookshelf," Curtis told host Ben Meiselas while appearing on the MeidasTouch Podcast Tuesday.

Laura Ingraham's brother says father kept Hitler book 'Mein Kampf' on shelf

C'mon.

Having a copy of Mein Kampf on your living room book self doesn't make you a
Nazi Sympathizer. If that were the case, the public library could be accused of
promoting Nazism by having Mein Kampf on their selves. It's for reference.

I'm no fan of Ingraham, but apparently she and her brother have issues with
each other and won't hold back on what they'll say and do to discredit each other.
 
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And few who repeated his chant. But calling nazis "nuts" is are pretty solid position, yes.

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I didn't hear anyone in the video chanting Heil Hitler.

I may have missed it, but it seems to be an article to
merely cause controversy.
 
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Having a copy of Mein Kampf on your living room book self doesn't make you a
Nazi Sympathizer.

When your son mentions that you were, it pretty much confirms the fact. The book just sort of adds to the evidence.

I'm no fan of Ingraham, but apparently she and her brother have issues with
each other and won't hold back on what they'll say and do to discredit each other.

She isn't her father. Sounds like a highly troubled man, who (not surprisingly) had messed-up kids.
 
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I'm pretty sure it was done to mock the school board in implying "they" were nazis.

If so, he made a huge mistake, given that COVID-19 denial has become a key part of the far-right ideology. People note such things.
 
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When your son mentions that you were, it pretty much confirms the fact. The book just sort of adds to the evidence.



She isn't her father. Sounds like a highly troubled man, who (not surprisingly) had messed-up kids.

Depends on the son's relationship with his father. The son may have an ax to grind and he
wouldn't be the first to trash his father falsely to the public.
 
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Nazis usually demand more authoritarian restrictions on freedom not less. That being the case, I find the article from the economic left ( at least they don't try to hide their bias.) to be hilariously poorly thought out political propaganda
 
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Nazis usually demand more authoritarian restrictions on freedom not less.

Yep. That's why people assume that guy and his idea that everyone else's safety was subject to his perceived right to endanger them was consistent with his Nazi salute.

It's no different than the guy who thinks that his right to drink and drive overrides everyone else's rights.
 
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Yep. That's why people assume that guy and his idea that everyone else's safety was subject to his perceived right to endanger them was consistent with his Nazi salute.

It's no different than the guy who thinks that his right to drink and drive overrides everyone else's rights.

So, they are mistaken?
 
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I am originally from Michigan, retired from the US Navy, living in Florida. I left there in 1981 and only been back on leave, and for funerals.

I have family still there, and some really good friends. I don't know what the issue is with masks, but everyone I know there hates it, and none of them believe that Covid -19 is real. They blame the deaths on the usual annual influenza, TB, fake diagnosis, lying politicians, and the list goes on.

None have gotten vaccinated, and none plan too, and they say they will go to jail if need be, and I believe some would take up arms (although no one I know has actually said that)

The Governor was way heavy handed in the beginning, more than necessary, and it angered a lot of people. There was something else with the Governors husband trying to set things up for a weekend get away in the middle of the lockdown, and of course the plot to kidnap her, and put her in front of a peoples court.

I don't like wearing a mask, but it's not that bad...guess I should be happy I moved.

I am an anti-masker and every one I know and know of understands that covid-19 is a real illness. We do get a lot of accusations that we don't think it is real. I think possibly the accusers have the mistaken perception that disputing the "emergency" nature of it is the same as disputing its existence. Because I have seen that too many times. "Oh, you think masks don't work. Do you even believe it exists?" "Oh, you think some of the covid deaths were misattributed. Do you even think it exists?" "How can you do XYZ during a *pandemic*" Really tiring.

That being said, I am lately getting some feedback from people *beginning* to wonder whether it is real. What is happening here is that as jurisdiction after jurisdiction refuses to provide an actual biological sample(isolate) of a covid-19 virus, it is leading people to wonder whether there is anything to find. And now folks - some scientists - are starting to question the germ theory. So, while we all dismissed the idea initially that it was a fake virus, the continued reticence to provide an actual sample of covid-19 when requested by courts, etc is causing suspicions to arise.

Myself, I still think it is real, mainly because of the Wuhan Lab "coincidence". Most people still do, but chatter is starting. For now, to me, it is just chatter. We'll see how this ends. The most fascinating part to me is the germ theory...but I offer no opinion on that.
 
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If the masking fascists weren't pretending that a piece of cloth was sufficient to ward off Covid and were instead insisting that people use N95 masks, I might believe they were actually well informed and well intentioned. Instead I can only assume that many mask Nazis are cultists that believe that a fairly useless piece of cloth has supernatural powers.
 
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I am an anti-masker and every one I know and know of understands that covid-19 is a real illness. We do get a lot of accusations that we don't think it is real.

There are a lot of deluded people out there. Hopefully, they've almost all realized that "it's a hoax" was both false, and killed many people who believed that story.

That being said, I am lately getting some feedback from people *beginning* to wonder whether it is real. What is happening here is that as jurisdiction after jurisdiction refuses to provide an actual biological sample(isolate) of a covid-19 virus, it is leading people to wonder whether there is anything to find.

You're serious? You actually think they don't have samples of all the different variants? How do you think they prepared the vaccines? Do you realize that every person who is seriously ill from the disease (and many who are not ill) is shedding virus?

And now folks - some scientists - are starting to question the germ theory.

So much for Koch's Postulates, um? That's just insane. Name me some of those scientists and show me their findings.

So, while we all dismissed the idea initially that it was a fake virus, the continued reticence to provide an actual sample of covid-19 when requested by courts, etc is causing suspicions to arise.

Show us a court that demanded a sample, and the failure of doctors to produce one. That would be really interesting.

Myself, I still think it is real, mainly because of the Wuhan Lab "coincidence". Most people still do, but chatter is starting.

In a society where bad stuff is supposed to have happened from demons having sex with people, and forest fires from Jewish space lasers, nothing some people come up with surprises me these days.

But do show us those scientists and link to their findings. And a checkable source for those courts too, if you would.
 
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If the masking fascists weren't pretending that a piece of cloth was sufficient to ward off Covid

As you know, repeated trials have shown that even crude masks provide pretty good protection when worn by a person with the virus, and provide some protect to a person wearing them. It's not as good as getting vaccinated, but it does help. Even if you've been vaccinated, it can still help, since you could have an asymptomatic infection in spite of the vaccination,and even a very few vaccinated people can get reinfected.

and were instead insisting that people use N95 masks,

Never happened. When it became clear that masking would help, every doctor who knew anything about it, said that even crude cloth masks would be helpful.

I might believe they were actually well informed and well intentioned. Instead I can only assume that many mask Nazis are cultists that believe that a fairly useless piece of cloth has supernatural powers.

Comes down to evidence. And that you consider evidence to be "cultic" is very telling.
 
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As you know, repeated trials have shown that even crude masks provide pretty good protection when worn by a person with the virus, and provide some protect to a person wearing them. It's not as good as getting vaccinated, but it does help. Even if you've been vaccinated, it can still help, since you could have an asymptomatic infection in spite of the vaccination,and even a very few vaccinated people can get reinfected.

I am unaware of any trials that isolated standard or below standard masking as a defense against Covid. The only trials I am aware of included all other measures used to protect against covid including social distancing and repeated hand cleaning and not standard or below standard masking alone. Therefore, I do not know that masking with a piece of cloth that a virus can easily pass through is pretty good protection when worn by a person with the virus or any kind of reasonable protection for a person wearing it. Unless one is wearing a good mask such as an N95 , the protection is very slim and a number of people thinking otherwise are actually a danger to others as they tend to act as if their thin piece of cloth makes them invulnerable.
 
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I am unaware of any trials that isolated standard or below standard masking as a defense against Covid.

Eur J Med Res 2021 Jan 2;26(1):1
Airborne transmission of COVID-19 and the role of face mask to prevent it: a systematic review and meta-analysis
Abstract

Background and aims: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), belonging to the Coronaviridae family, is agent of 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19). COVID-19 emerged in Wuhan, Hubei province of China, in early December 2019 and is now considered a pandemic. This study aimed to investigate the airborne transmission of COVID-19 and the role of face mask to prevent it.

Methods: A systematic search for English-language literature was done via PUBMED/Medline and Google Scholar up to October 2020. There was two search strategy; for airborne transmission and the role of face mask for prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Based on a fixed and random effects model, the RR and 95% CI were used to evaluate the combined risk. This meta-analysis followed Preferred Reporting Items for Systematic Reviews and Meta-analysis (PRISMA) Guidelines.

Results: After eligibility assessment, four articles with a total of 7688 participants were included in this meta-analysis. The result of this meta-analysis has shown significant reduction in infection with face mask use; the pooled RR (95%CI) was 0.12 [0.06, 0.27] (P < 0.001).


Lancet 2020 Jun 27;395
Physical distancing, face masks, and eye protection to prevent person-to-person transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis
...Face mask use could result in a large reduction in risk of infection (n=2647; aOR 0·15, 95% CI 0·07 to 0·34, RD -14·3%, -15·9 to -10·7; low certainty), with stronger associations with N95 or similar respirators compared with disposable surgical masks or similar (eg, reusable 12-16-layer cotton masks; pinteraction=0·090; posterior probability >95%, low certainty).

There's a lot more. How much more would you like to see?


Therefore, I do not know that masking with a piece of cloth that a virus can easily pass through is pretty good protection when worn by a person with the virus or any kind of reasonable protection for a person wearing it.

Turns out, your assumption is incorrect. Electrostatic forces and Van der Waals forces, at the scale of virus particles, tend to screen out such particles as they travel though the mask and encounter mask fibers. Would you like to see how that works?

Unless one is wearing a good mask such as an N95 , the protection is very slim

See above. People who do not understand these things, are actually a danger to others as they tend to act as if masks don't matter at all.




 
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Nazis usually demand more authoritarian restrictions on freedom not less. That being the case, I find the article from the economic left ( at least they don't try to hide their bias.) to be hilariously poorly thought out political propaganda

You aren't suppose to point that out about Nazis! lol. Your suppose to redefine the definition of authoritarian, and just go with it!

Ya know...so people will get outraged and offended. It's called NOT encouraging the divide, but unity.

Yep, people redefined that concept too!

I mean you can't find all those white supremacist's and Nazis around every corner if you can't propaganda them a little. Making America Hate Again - as they say. No one will notice the projection.
 
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There's a lot more. How much more would you like to see?

I would like to see one that studied the effect of the common masks and random pieces of cloth being worn by the populace in isolation from other factors such as hand washing and social distancing that provided evidence to suggest how effective those common masks and pieces of cloth were in preventing the virus from escaping or intruding into the air space inside or outside of those common masks and pieces of cloth. So far you ain't done that. I consider the possibility that you haven't done that is because most likely because such studies haven't been done. Be aware that I am not anti mask what I am is anti substandard mask. If people would wear proper masks they would indeed be protected and be protecting others.
 
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You know what I love about anti-Vaxxers...they will listen two online quack which know collage or medical education and ignore doctors. Millions of people will die around them and they will still howl about a conspiracy. I figure they have know life...they have live in this bubble world were everyone is against them.
 
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You know what I love about anti-Vaxxers...they will listen two online quack which know collage or medical education and ignore doctors. Millions of people will die around them and they will still howl about a conspiracy. I figure they have know life...they have live in this bubble world were everyone is against them.

If you place people in a box does it make it easier to dehumanize them?
 
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