How to be baptized?

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Water baptism is an outward showing of what has already taken place, conversion by believing in Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The baptism of the Holy Spirit, which is salvation, takes place upon conversion. This is where the power of His Holy Spirit , through regeneration, is given to every believer.
Water baptism is an outward showing of what has already taken place, conversion by believing in Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The baptism of the Holy Spirit, which is salvation, takes place upon conversion. This is where the power of His Holy Spirit , through regeneration, is given to every believer.
What would you say are signs that the Holy Spirit is in you?
 
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Not titles.

"Father" is not a title. It's WHO He is. The Father is the Father. He's the Father of His own beloved Son, whom He has begotten before all ages.

These are not titles. These are the three Divine Persons of the Trinity themselves. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each is truly and really God.

God the Son, begotten of the Father from all eternity, became man by the power of the Holy Spirit, conceived and born of the Virgin Mary: The Eternal and Only-begotten Son of the Father is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Son.

Jesus isn't the Father.
Jesus isn't the Holy Spirit.

Jesus is the Son. And as the Son He is God with and from His Father; and the Holy Spirit likewise is God from the Father, and with the Father and the Son worshiped and glorified as true Almighty God.

One God, three Persons. Holy Trinity.

-CryptoLutheran
And so Acts 2:28 is what?
 
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Yes, because the commandment in Matthew is to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, and we have not been given the personal name of the Holy Ghost, and YHWH refers to God the Holy Trinity and not to the Father as some people think (we know this because in the Gospel According to John, our Lord self-identified as “Before Abraham was born, I AM” and YHWH means approximately “I AM that I AM”).
Trinity is not in the Bible.
 
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There's "...the doctrine of baptisms,..." (Heb 6:2).

(Prepositions help -There's 3 baptisms)

1 - By The Holy Spirit into Jesus which reconciles us to God is the baptism for salvation. Baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ by believing in His death, burial, and resurrection.
(Rev 1:5; Matt 26:28; Mark 1:4-9, 16:16; Luk 3:3; 1 Cor 12:13; Acts 2:38; Gal 3:27, II Cor 5;18).)

Water and Spirit baptism follows salvation - not in a set order though
2 - By another believer (water baptism) Jesus said "... fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness," All 3 persons of the Godhead endorsed water baptism (Matt 3:13-16). (Matt 3:6,11 ; 28:18-20; Acts 8:39, 10:47, 22:16; John 3:5).

3 - By Jesus who sends the promise of the Father baptists us "by," "with" and "in" the Holy Spirit (The Spirit baptism) includes when the Holy Spirit comes upon us, He endures us with power for service to Him and keep His Word. (Matt 3:11; Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16; John 1:33, Acts 1:5, 8:14-17, 10:44-48, 11:16; I Cor 12:13, Luk 24:49, Eph 5:18, Acts 4:31; I John 3:24; Eze 36:25-28; John 14:25-27).

They're different yet
"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." I John 5:7-8
 
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There's "...the doctrine of baptisms,..." (Heb 6:2).

(Prepositions help -There's 3 baptisms)

1 - By The Holy Spirit into Jesus which reconciles us to God is the baptism for salvation. Baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ by believing in His death, burial, and resurrection.
(Rev 1:5; Matt 26:28; Mark 1:4-9, 16:16; Luk 3:3; 1 Cor 12:13; Acts 2:38; Gal 3:27, II Cor 5;18).)

Water and Spirit baptism follows salvation - not in a set order though
2 - By another believer (water baptism) Jesus said "... fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness," All 3 persons of the Godhead endorsed water baptism (Matt 3:13-16). (Matt 3:6,11 ; 28:18-20; Acts 8:39, 10:47, 22:16; John 3:5).

3 - By Jesus who sends the promise of the Father baptists us "by," "with" and "in" the Holy Spirit (The Spirit baptism) includes when the Holy Spirit comes upon us, He endures us with power for service to Him and keep His Word. (Acts 1:5, 8:14-17, 10:44-48, 11:16; Matt 3:11; Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16; I Cor 12:13, Luk 24:49, Eph 5:18, Acts 4:31; I John 3:24; Eze 36:25-28; John 14:25-27).

They're different yet
"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." I John 5:7-8

The Greek construction in Hebrews 6:2 is peculiar, as the grammatical case would mean something like "baptisms of doctrine".

St. John Chryostom provides us with an interesting clue, and this makes sense given again the peculiar construction "baptisms of doctrine"; whereby Chysostom sees here the author saying, in essence, "I'm not going to treat you like brand new converts, you've already been catechized and baptized, let's move past those first things you heard when you converted". Here "baptisms of doctrine" suggests going again over the basics, as though they would need to be taught all over again, brought into the Faith all over again from the outside.

"But what is “the doctrine of baptisms'? Not as if there were many baptisms, but one only. Why then did he express it in the plural? Because he had said, 'not laying again a foundation of repentance.' For if he again baptized them and catechised them afresh, and having been baptized at the beginning they were again taught what things ought to be done and what ought not, they would remain perpetually incorrigible." - St. John Chrysostom, Homily IX on Hebrews

Other commentators note that the grammatical case is special here, where the only other cases of this particular case and plural is found describing Jewish ritual washings. Which is very likely why the ESV translates this as "instruction about washings". Thus the implication being that this is part of the author's desire to continue to move his readers beyond their Judaism and nascent Christianity toward a more mature Christian faith.

Suggesting that there are, in fact, multiple Christian "baptisms" doesn't make sense in light of Scripture. For example St. Paul is only aware of one Christian baptism (Ephesians 4:5), and all other Christian writers are, likewise, only aware of a singular Christian baptism (as Chrysostom himself notes above in his commentary).

This renders a multiple Christian baptisms theory untenable. Rather we must look for a more biblically and historically sound interpretation; of which I think the view which Chrysostom offers is probably best.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Trinity is not in the Bible.

And yet the Scriptures are abundant in their teaching that:

There is only one God (Isaiah 45:5)
God is one (Deuteronomy 6:4)

The Father is God (1 Corinthians 8:6)
The Son is God (John 1:1)
The Holy Spirit is God (Acts of the Apostles 5:3-4)

The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are distinct (Matthew 3:16-17)

The Father is in the Son, even as the Son is in the Father (John 14:11)
The Son is one with the Father (John 10:30)
The Son is with the Father in the beginning (John 1:1)

Etc.

And so since there is only one God.
And since the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
Then the Church confesses these very things, by speaking of a Holy Trinity of Persons.

The Church is unable to confess something else, because all other views are contrary to the revelation which we have received from the beginning.

Adoptionism, Modalism, Arianism are all condemned as heresy, because they all fail to take all of what the Church has received and believed since the beginning into consideration. Resulting in faulty, broken theologies that ultimately get the Gospel wrong, either by denying the full Deity of Christ or by denying the Personal distinctions between the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a bold Christian confession that the one God is more than "personal", He is tri-Personal. When the Father loves His Son, and when the Son loves His Father, it's not confusing--it is One loving Another. It is true Love. And "God is love" (1 John 4:8).

God's love is neither selfish, nor dependent upon created things. His love is as eternal as Himself, and the love which He has is always facing toward Another. The Father loves His Son, from all eternity. Even as the Son loves His Father from all eternity. And the Holy Spirit, likewise, loves and is loved--and the Holy Spirit poured out into our hearts means that we share in God's love. That is, we share in the very love which the Father has for His Son, so that we--in Christ--are the beloved of God. We are heirs of God because we have been adopted and identified with Christ as God's sons and daughters. So that the everlasting love of God is something in which we now live by the power of the Holy Spirit.

None of this can make sense without the doctrine of the Trinity holding it all together.

The doctrine of the Trinity is the glue that holds all these things together as a coherent and consistent proclamation and confession of Christian faith.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Which would be what?

The Matthew verse is addressing, Jesus sending out the disciples out into the world.

1st
which is not mentioned, to tell people how to have God's free gift of Eternal Life.

But where the verse picks up is the making of a disciple (which is the theme of Matthew) to make disciples of believers. That is done by, after a person believes in The Messiah for God's free gift of Eternal Life, they would be baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,.
Now the believer is prepared to grow as a believer after being baptized and advance to becoming a disciple.

Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Where as Acts 2 is addressing Jewish people who did not accept Jesus as the Messiah or Jewish believers who remained silent or abandoned their Messiah they had believed in, when Jesus was being arrested and tried (example Peter).

This is tied to in away Matthew 12, where Jesus is rejected as the Messiah on grounds of doing His miracles by beelzebub. The national rejection by Israel of Jesus as their promised Messiah.

So this repentance is tied to this, unbelieving Jews first had to believe Jesus was The Messiah after they believed they had to repent and be baptized, to be brought into the fellowship of believers.

For believers they had to repent and be baptized to be brought back into the fellowship of believers. If they did not they may have suffered the sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which God's judgment was carried out in 70 A.D. where Jerusalem was leveled by Rome.

The baptism served as a public act for a believer to identify with The Messiah.
 
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Trinity is not in the Bible.

If you mean the word, that’s right, but its also a quibble, because the idea encapsulated by Tertullian in the word Trinitas is obviously present.
 
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And yet the Scriptures are abundant in their teaching that:

There is only one God (Isaiah 45:5)
God is one (Deuteronomy 6:4)

The Father is God (1 Corinthians 8:6)
The Son is God (John 1:1)
The Holy Spirit is God (Acts of the Apostles 5:3-4)

The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are distinct (Matthew 3:16-17)

The Father is in the Son, even as the Son is in the Father (John 14:11)
The Son is one with the Father (John 10:30)
The Son is with the Father in the beginning (John 1:1)

Etc.

And so since there is only one God.
And since the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
Then the Church confesses these very things, by speaking of a Holy Trinity of Persons.

The Church is unable to confess something else, because all other views are contrary to the revelation which we have received from the beginning.

Adoptionism, Modalism, Arianism are all condemned as heresy, because they all fail to take all of what the Church has received and believed since the beginning into consideration. Resulting in faulty, broken theologies that ultimately get the Gospel wrong, either by denying the full Deity of Christ or by denying the Personal distinctions between the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a bold Christian confession that the one God is more than "personal", He is tri-Personal. When the Father loves His Son, and when the Son loves His Father, it's not confusing--it is One loving Another. It is true Love. And "God is love" (1 John 4:8).

God's love is neither selfish, nor dependent upon created things. His love is as eternal as Himself, and the love which He has is always facing toward Another. The Father loves His Son, from all eternity. Even as the Son loves His Father from all eternity. And the Holy Spirit, likewise, loves and is loved--and the Holy Spirit poured out into our hearts means that we share in God's love. That is, we share in the very love which the Father has for His Son, so that we--in Christ--are the beloved of God. We are heirs of God because we have been adopted and identified with Christ as God's sons and daughters. So that the everlasting love of God is something in which we now live by the power of the Holy Spirit.

None of this can make sense without the doctrine of the Trinity holding it all together.

The doctrine of the Trinity is the glue that holds all these things together as a coherent and consistent proclamation and confession of Christian faith.

-CryptoLutheran

Your doctrinal orthodoxy impresses me to no end. I have a complex doctrinal question I want to put to you some time involving sacramental efficacy and Donatism.
 
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