The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

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The original AOD was Antiochus.
Then Jesus referenced this - probably speaking of his death as the event that would lay desolate the whole sacrificial system!
But the other interpretation that also fits is that he was warning them about THAT TEMPLE - that the disciples were asking about THEN AND THERE and when IT would be destroyed (NOT some imaginary 3rd temple!).
Then of course the Romans came in and destroyed it in AD70 - and sacrificed to the Eagle standard.
Given all this I think we can conclude the AOD fulfilled. I see no reason at all that the temple must be rebuilt. In fact, such an act would be blasphemous. And I'm a bit embarrassed that so many in the American church are absolutely fixated on this AOD business. It's like they read Tim LaHaye's Left Behind books as gospel truth!

This was the AOD
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Did that standard come alive and speak? If so, who was the false prophet who was credited with the miracle?
 
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Did that standard come alive and speak? If so, who was the false prophet who was credited with the miracle?
Now you're mixing in Daniel = Antiochus,
Jesus = Rome,
and John's apocalyptic description of the boasting of man kind when worshipping military might and economic power in Revelation 13.

You're assuming your futurism is right, then using that assumption to justify your assumption. Um, circular much?

John's vision is a bit different though. Don't bind your politics and materialism to your hands and forehead. Don't worship your leader or money. Stay true to Christ - no matter what happens. Jesus is worth it. Instead - be one of those in the very next Chapter that have their Father's name written on their foreheads!

This video explains more - 11 minutes for the second half of Revelation - well worth it. Share at church!
 
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the Lord’s Day of Wrath:
How bad will the Lord’s response to the attack of Psalm 83 be?
When the sun explodes out a massive CME…. Isaiah 30:26, Psalms 50:1-3
When the Arm of the Lord descends in anger…..Isaiah 30:30, Zephaniah 3:8
When He flashes lightning and fiery coals onto the earth. Deut. 32:22, Psalm 18:13-14

When the Day comes, burning like a furnace. Malachi 4:1, 2 Peter 3:7

Most people have no conception of the worldwide devastation that will be caused by the hit upon the earth by the Lord’s fiery Day of vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 29:6 What is prophesied will be so shocking, so terrifying, that it is impossible for us to really comprehend and only when it happens, will we realize the full extent of the damage done to the world and our modern infrastructure.

There has never been a comparable natural disaster in recorded history. The nearest to it may be the continuous winters of 1883-87, caused by the ash clouds from Krakatoa, or some recent tsunamis. Only Noah’s flood really compares, but fortunately this time we have God’s promise to never again destroy man and animals so extensively. Genesis 9:16 Many people will die, Jeremiah 25:33, Isaiah 34:3, but most will survive.

As the survivors come out from under whatever shelter they have found, Isaiah 2:20-21, Revelation 6:15, there will be little, if any light for weeks or months. Amos 5:20, Zephaniah 1:15 Most buildings will be destroyed by earthquake and fire, Isaiah 24:18, Zephaniah 3:8 and huge tsunamis will wipe out all coastal cities and towns. Jeremiah 51:42, Amos 9:6

Normal mains electricity supply will not be restored for years. Only small generators will be able to supply power and these will soon run out of fuel, as will all motor transport. Line telephone systems and radio communication may be set up fairly quickly, but mobile phones and internet may never be re-established.

The world will slowly recover and in order to regain control and normal services, a 10 region One World Government will be organised. Daniel 7:23-24

However, those who have maintained their faith and trust in the Creator God during this time of testing have the promises of His redemption and their gathering into all of the Holy Land. Deuteronomy 30:3, Isaiah 35, Psalms 107, Zechariah 10:8, Hosea 11:10-11, Ezekiel 11:17, Ezekiel 36:8, Isaiah 49:8-23, Jeremiah 23:3-4, Psalms 69:35-36, Colossians 1:11-12, Revelation 7:9-14
 
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The world will slowly recover and in order to regain control and normal services, a 10 region One World Government will be organised. Daniel 7:23-24
Rome covered pretty much the whole known world
 
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Rome covered pretty much the whole known world
The Abo's had settled in Australia, the Negroes in Africa and the Amerinds in the Americas, before Rome.
Your premise that Rome ruled the world, is error.
 
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The Abo's had settled in Australia, the Negroes in Africa and the Amerinds in the Americas, before Rome.
Your premise that Rome ruled the world, is error.
They are categories you're worried about.
Revelation maps the New Jerusalem onto the ancient world.
Most bible commentators accept that Daniel's 4th kingdom is Rome.
What's the point discussing any of this with you?
You whack the OT over the new (wrong way around) and you're modern views all over the whole bible (wrong way around).
You're old. I don't know if your generation understands this, but your blunt your reference to "Abo's" is highly offensive!
 
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The Jews (Judaism) many of them think that the messiah will take part in building the next temple.
Did you read my post #741 where any "temple" after the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, is of a spiritual nature and not a "literal" brick and mortar temple?
  • Is there some error in my post that negates any reference to believers being a spiritual temple?
  • In Rev 21:22, did John not clearly says that he - "... saw no temple in the city, for its "temple" is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb.?
  • Do you not understand the implication that God Almighty AND Jesus are the only "temple" and because of it, this has to be no other place but in heaven.
All Revelation's verses that have the word "temple" in it are the Greek word "naos" which means "spiritual."

There are NO Greek words in Revelation with the Greek word "heiron" for a "literal-brick-and-mortar" building in that entire book.

SO, when you quote any verse with the word "temple" in it, to get the true message of that verse you have to keep the two Greek words separate from Revelations.
 
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the Lord’s Day of Wrath:
How bad will the Lord’s response to the attack of Psalm 83 be?
When the sun explodes out a massive CME…. Isaiah 30:26, Psalms 50:1-3
When the Arm of the Lord descends in anger…..Isaiah 30:30, Zephaniah 3:8
When He flashes lightning and fiery coals onto the earth. Deut. 32:22, Psalm 18:13-14

AAAAhhhhhh!! the "let's-divert- and-avoid-the-subject-about-"temple"-and-get-them sidetracked???
 
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