That might be your view, but I see more evidence of God working through process in Scripture.I read the Bible literally there.
If it has already begun, then everything in Hebrews 8:8-12 would be reality now.
Romans 7:7-8 has nothing to do with Romans 5:12-14, Romans 5:18.
You are missing the main point, which is reckoning/accounting/imputing to, between the time of Adam and Moses (Romans 5:18).
And you contradict Paul in that statement.
There was no curse of death (Galatians 3:10) based on the Mosaic Law before the Mosaic law.
There can be no sin against the Mosaic law and its curse of death before that law is given,
and yet the curse of death reigned, not based on the Mosaic Law.
So what violation of law caused the death of all men?
The curse of death was based on Adam's disobedience to the law, "Thou shalt not eat of it,"
and its curse of death (Genesis 2:17).
That's your rule, not Paul's.
And that would be your rationale. . .in disagreeement with Paul regarding what that sin was
(Romans 5:18).
The Greek reads: "even over the (ones) not sinning on the likeness of the transgression of Adam,"Romans 5:14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
That might be your view, but I see more evidence of God working through process in Scripture.
So ... when your children were born, ... did they arrive fully grown and mature ?
I think people need to realize what you call the Old Testament, includes numerous covenants. Did the covenant of the rainbow get abolished? Does that mean there will be another global flood?
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Paul(or the Hebrews author), was talking about what we must do to be saved. This was because there is an actual group of people who believe we must keep the Torah to be saved. Paul merely replaced this belief of good deeds vs bad deeds with the Gospel.
Yeshua Himself said in Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
So which is it? Abolished? Or fulfilled?(Completed). These are not synonyms.
The Greek reads: "even over the (ones) not sinning on the likeness of the transgression of Adam,"
Th NIV translates: "even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam,"
Your translation is a gloss of Romans 5:14, and is the source of your misunderstanding.
Of course there is a process ... the NT describes it ... and labels it GROWTH.If we can still sin now, it proves one thing, the law is yet to be written in our hearts. There is no process involved.
Replaced - for believersYeshua Himself said in Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
So which is it? Abolished? Or fulfilled?(Completed). These are not synonyms.
Of course there is a process ... the NT describes it ... and labels it GROWTH.
What do you think the NT writers mean when they speak of GROWING IN CHRIST ?
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
Philippians 1:9 9 And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, 10 so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11 filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
Hebrews 6:1 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, ...
1 Peter 2:2-3 Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation — if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good.
Ephesians 4:15 Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, ...
Hebrews 5:12-14 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.
Philippians 1:6 And I am sure of this, that He who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:1-2 But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as carnal, as infants in Christ. I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, for you are still carnal.
So ... is it your view that NONE of God's Law ... is currently written in believer's hearts ?So, is it hard for you to believe that, while we are "growing in the Lord", that means the Law is currently not written in our hearts?
I was quoting from the ESV, though there is not a significant change in meaning between that and the NIV: 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law.
Keeping in mind what Peter said regarding Paul: "His letters contain some things that are hard to understand," (2 Peter 3:16).14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
Verse 12 states that all sinned and as verse 14 states in regard to their sin that it was not breaking a command as did Adam, so their sin was not the same as the sin of Adam,
This is your claim.If its written "in our hearts", it means we won't sin.
As you said, the law includes numerous covenants. The covenant made with their fathers cannot be abolished by the law of the latter covenant made at Sinai.I think people need to realize what you call the Old Testament, includes numerous covenants. Did the covenant of the rainbow get abolished? Does that mean there will be another global flood?
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
The law of faith is not abolished, but God is faithful just and true to keep the covenant made to our father Abraham.Paul(or the Hebrews author), was talking about what we must do to be saved. This was because there is an actual group of people who believe we must keep the Torah to be saved. Paul merely replaced this belief of good deeds vs bad deeds with the Gospel.
Yeshua Himself said in Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
So which is it? Abolished? Or fulfilled?(Completed). These are not synonyms.
Old Testament = Old Covenant = Sinaitic Covenant.I think people need to realize what you call the Old Testament, includes numerous covenants. Did the covenant of the rainbow get abolished? Does that mean there will be another global flood?
We establish the law (Decalogue) on its proper footing, not as a means of righteousess/salvation, but as a means of sanctification through obedience in the Holy Spirit.Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Paul did so according to God's dealing with Abraham, where his faith, rather than his good deeds, was credited to him as righeousness (Genesis 15:6; Romans 4:3).Paul(or the Hebrews author), was talking about what we must do to be saved. This was because there is an actual group of people who believe we must keep the Torah to be saved. Paul merely replaced this belief of good deeds vs bad deeds with the Gospel.
It is both, the ceremonial laws and regulations are fulfilled in Jesus Christ--the sacrifices, the cleansings of defilement, the atonement for God's people, etc.--and, therefore, abolished (Ephesians 2:15), just asYeshua Himself said in Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
So which is it? Abolished? Or fulfilled?(Completed). These are not synonyms.
What scripture leads you to such a belief ?If its written "in our hearts", it means we won't sin.
Keeping in mind what Peter said regarding Paul: "His letters contain some things that are hard to understand," (2 Peter 3:16).
In light of all the NT, (e.g., Romans 4:3-5), you are missing Paul's point here.
Paul is setting up his contrasting parallels between the first Adam and the second Adam, in terms of imputation/accounting to mankind of sin and of righteousness.
His first point is demonstration of the first Adam's sin being accounted/imputed to all those of/in Adam.
Hs second point is the second Adam's righteousness being accounted/imputed to all those of/in Christ, the second Adam.
He is not saying that everyone sinned by breaking the law. . .because there was no law to sin against, and therefore no sin would have been taken into account/charged against them (v.13).
He is saying that because everyone died, they therefore had to have sinned (Romans 6:23). Yet, what was their sin when there was no law to sin against and, therefore, no sin to account/charge against them?
He concludes that it was the sin of Adam imputed/accounted to and charged against them, which is why they all died (Romans 5:18).
In Romans 5:18-19, he then draws his contrasting parallels between the sin/guilt which is accounted/imputed to those in the first Adam,
and the righteousness/justification which is accounted/imputed to those in the second Adam, Christ.
God's nature is righteous and the basis for sin is what is against God's nature. God's law do not cause something to become sinful, but simply give us knowledge of the things that are against God's nature that are sinful. Adam's sin opened the way for all of the things that are against God's nature to enter into the world and through doing those things all have sinned, so death came to all people. So Paul was saying that all sinned through acting against God's nature before the law that gave us knowledge of what sin is was given, but sin is not charged against anyone's account before God's law was given to them. Because everyone died, they had to have sinned by acting against God's nature, which is what Adam's sin made the way for, however, they were not guilty of the same sin as Adam because they had not broken a command like he did.
I"m assuming when you say "the sin that entered the world as the result of Adam's sin," you mean the sin of those from Adam to Moses.In regard Romans 5:18, one man's sin resulted in condemnation for all people, and this is because all of the things that are against God's nature entered into the world was the result of Adam's sin. If the whole world had been condemned because of Adam's sin instead of because of the sin that entered into the world as the result of Adam's sin,
then there would be no point in Paul saying that sin is not counted where there is no law.
That is not the meaning of the gift of righteousness received in justification through faith. . .which is simply being declared "not guilty". . . and, therefore, in right standing with God's justice; i.e., a righteous standing--no longer God's ebnemy, but not yet a reformed righteous character.Receiving the gift of righteousness is receiving the gift of being made into someone who acts in accordance with God's righteousness in accordance with what would be revealed when God's law was given.