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What are the motivations or reasons behind a person wrongfully rejecting the Trinity?

I am always fascinated behind the motivations behind why people believe they do. I can understand why some people might hold to various beliefs that I think are unbiblical, but when folks reject the Trinity as revealed in Scripture, I am just puzzled. Why do they do this? For there are believers who do not understand the Trinity and yet they accept it by faith it is true (even when they don’t understand it). I admire them for that. For me: I guess I was blessed by the Lord to be able to understand the Trinity right away.

Believing things one doesn't understand leaves them open to false teachings.
 
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What are the motivations or reasons behind a person wrongfully rejecting the Trinity?

I am always fascinated behind the motivations behind why people believe they do. I can understand why some people might hold to various beliefs that I think are unbiblical, but when folks reject the Trinity as revealed in Scripture, I am just puzzled. Why do they do this? For there are believers who do not understand the Trinity and yet they accept it by faith it is true (even when they don’t understand it). I admire them for that. For me: I guess I was blessed by the Lord to be able to understand the Trinity right away.

I would say that the main thing that would motivate someone to reject the modern understanding of the Trinity would be the Scriptures.
 
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I am not here to slam the trinity, duo theistic, or monotheistic belief of God. I study the Word for accuracy and there are many verses used on both sides, but overwhelmingly on the triune side that don’t hold water. Our goal (well, mine) is to protect the integrity of the Word. To seek the truth …then believe….and it doesn’t matter if it’s this, or any other subject.

My attempt is not to attack other believers, I don’t like doing that any more than I like being attacked…I don’t want to make it personal ….I want it to be about the Truth so that our stand (whatever it might be) is on solid ground.

John 10:30

It is one in purpose (hen ἕν neuter), not one in person, which would be masculine (heis).

Consider 1 Cor 3:

3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

Same word, same gender ….But no one reading this would think that Paul and Apollos were the same person.

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The “I AM” is used frequently as you have done….But for this to be valid it needs to have a solid foundation.

The foundation for this is found in Exodus 3:14. The term I AM does not mean I AM in Hebrew. The phrase actually means To be or To Become ….so God is saying I will be, what I will be. The I AM in Exodus is a mistranslation of the Hebrew text. While the Greek phrase in John does mean I AM …the Hebrew phrase in Exodus actually means to become.

There is much more to this I’m not going into….or the other scriptures you give reference to. I understand where you are coming from. But from a simple point of view…. ….Jesus calls or is referred to… as the son of God more than 50 times …never once does he say he is God.

Yes….Thomas in John 20:28 called Jesus God…. which is a descriptive title that was used and could apply to a range of authority including the Roman governor Acts 12:22 and the devil 2 Cor 4:4.

But what I what to know is ………...How would somebody who has a Bible, but does not have access to any reference books, internet, or outside teachings ….how would they conclude who/what Jesus is?

Would they conclude He is the Son of God? or God? And would they conclude any semblance of a trinity.
My hat's off to you for seeking the truth at any cost. I to do the same. No doctrine is sacred, only the truth. Good post also!
 
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I would say that the main thing that would motivate someone to reject the modern understanding of the Trinity would be the Scriptures.

No. I don’t believe that’s true. Someone may convince themselves of that their erroneous view of how God is based on Scripture, but God is going to hold people accountable for what His Word plainly says. There can only be one truth and not many. I think in some cases people have a hard time understanding the Trinity and so they reject it and therefore they look to find a view of God that is more simplistic to their understanding of God and therefore they impose their view upon the Scriptures to fit with their understanding. It could be social acceptance of their church, etc.; But ultimately it is the reason shown in the golden calf incident where the Israelites rejected the true God over a god they preferred to make to their own liking. They did not want to wait upon God. So they made their own god.

For example: All Arians completely reject 1 John 5:7 KJB.
 
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My hat's off to you for seeking the truth at any cost. I to do the same. No doctrine is sacred, only the truth. Good post also!
Thanks Brother ...and thank you for your stand and commitment to truth
 
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Thanks Brother ...and thank you for your stand and commitment to truth

So do you accept the truth of 1 John 5:7 KJB?
Please take note that the King James Bible was the Bible used for hundreds of years long before the Modern Translations showed up. So the KJB at one point would have been your authority. But most just throw that Bible out the window.
 
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Believing things one doesn't understand leaves them open to false teachings.

Actually, Arianism (or Anti-Trinitarianism) is a false teaching. The Trinity is taught in God’s Word but many want to make God into an image they think is more suitable to them and or their understanding.
 
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Also, Non-Trinitarianism is not allowed to be discussed in a way that is to be promoted in this section of the forums. See the Statement of Purpose. The point of this thread is asking my fellow Trinitarian brothers and sisters the reasons behind why people may reject the Trinity. It’s not really a debate between Non-Trinitarianism vs. the Trinity but it is the motivations and reasons behind why somebody would reject the truth of how He is revealed.

The Statement of Purpose says:

Non-Trinitarianism may only be discussed in the Outreach category forums.

Source:
Statement of Purpose - Controversial Christian Theology Statement of Purpose

So if you want to debate Non-Trinitarianism, this is not the place to do it.
 
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Based on the verse below, the Messiah's death cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His Blood.

Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.


I am very aware that many modern Christians do not know the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant fulfilled by Christ's blood at Calvary.

Therefore, it is no wonder they do not understand the role of the Holy Spirit in the life of a New Covenant believer.

Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning.
Act 11:16 Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, 'John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.'


New Covenant: Bob George


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First, this is not the topic of this thread.
Second, I am not in disagreement that Christ’s death started the New Covenant.
Anyways, please keep on topic with what the OP actually says.
 
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No. I don’t believe that’s true. Someone may convince themselves of that their erroneous view of God is based on Scripture, but God is going to hold people accountable for what His Word plainly says. There can only be one truth and not many. I think in some cases people have a hard time understanding the Trinity and so they reject it and therefore they look to find a view of God that is more simplistic to their understanding of God and therefore they impose their view upon the Scriptures to fit with their understanding. It could be social acceptance of their church, etc.; But ultimately it is the reason shown in the golden calf incident where the Israelites rejected the true God over a god they preferred to make to their own liking. They did not want to wait upon God. So they made their own god.

For example: All Arians completely reject 1 John 5:7 KJB.

You said,
"Someone may convince themselves of that their erroneous view of God is based on Scripture, but God is going to hold people accountable for what His Word plainly say"

I agree, I see this all the time. Some even say that there is a being called God who consist of three persons.
 
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Thanks Brother ...and thank you for your stand and commitment to truth

It's all we have. There is so much error taught today that so many aren't aware of. So many believe things that aren't even Christian. I do think a lot of it is as BibleHighlighter suggested, many are afraid to be an outcast. They don't want to make waves so they go along. That's not me. The truth at all costs. How horrible would it be to stand before Jesus and have Him say that most of what someone believed was wrong? Sadly, I believe that many will see this. It doesn't have to be that way. But, not many are willing to go against the flow to find out.
 
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Actually, Arianism (or Anti-Trinitarianism) is a false teaching. The Trinity is taught in God’s Word but many want to make God into an image they think is more suitable to them and or their understanding.
We had a whole thread on that and no one could show it anywhere. At least the modern understanding of it. Seriously, we had 10 pages and not a single passage saying that there was being called God who consisted of three persons.

This is the statement of faith from this forum.

Statement of Faith
The Nicene Creed
We believe in (Romans 10:8-10; 1John 4:15)
ONE God, (Deuteronomy 6:4, Ephesians 4:6)
the Father (Matthew 6:9)
Almighty, (Exodus 6:3)
Maker of Heaven and Earth, (Genesis 1:1)
and of all things visible and invisible. (Colossians 1:15-16)
And in ONE Lord Jesus Christ, (Acts 11:17)
the Son of God, (Mathew 14:33; 16:16)
the Only-Begotten, (John 1:18; 3:16)
Begotten of the Father before all ages. (John 1:2)
Light of Light; (Psalm 27:1; John 8:12; Matthew 17:2,5)
True God of True God; (John 17:1-5)
Begotten, not made; (John 1:18)
of one essence with the Father (John 10:30)
by whom all things were made; (Hebrews 1:1-2)
Who for us men and for our salvation (1Timothy 2:4-5)
came down from Heaven, (John 6:33,35)
and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, (Luke 1:35)
and became man. (John 1:14)
And was crucified for us (Mark 15:25; 1Cointhians 15:3)
under Pontius Pilate, (John 19:6)
and suffered, (Mark 8:31)
and was buried. (Luke 23:53; 1Corinthians 15:4)
And the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures. (Luke 24:1 1Corinthians 15:4)
And ascended into Heaven, (Luke 24:51; Acts 1:10)
and sits at the right hand of the Father. (Mark 16:19; Acts 7:55)
And He shall come again with glory (Matthew 24:27)
to judge the living and the dead; (Acts 10:42; 2Timothy 4:1)
whose Kingdom shall have no end. (2 Peter 1:11)
And in the Holy Spirit, (John 14:26)
the Lord, (Acts 5:3-4)
the Giver of Life, (Genesis 1:2)
Who proceeds from the Father; (John 15:26)
Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; (Matthew 3:16-17)
Who spoke through the prophets. (1 Samuel 19:20 ; Ezekiel 11:5,13) In one, (Matthew 16: 18)
holy, (1 Peter 2:5,9)
catholic*, (Mark 16:15)
and apostolic Church. (Acts 2:42; Ephesians 2:19-22)
I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins**. (Ephesians 4:5; Acts 2:38)
I look for the resurrection of the dead, (John 11:24; 1Corinthians 15:12-49; Hebrews 6:2; Revelation 20:5)
and the life of the world to come. (Mark 10:29-30)
AMEN. (Psalm 106:48)


This is what we're supposed to hold to. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that if we did a survey of everyone on this forum I would be the only one who actually believes this. Maybe Sandman, I don't know what he believes. I'd bet everyone else believes this that came in the 5th century and is not in the Statement of Faith. There's big difference.

Athanasian Creed
Whoever desires to be saved should above all hold to the catholic faith.

Anyone who does not keep it whole and unbroken will doubtless perish eternally.

Now this is the catholic faith:

That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity,
neither blending their persons
nor dividing their essence.
For the person of the Father is a distinct person,
the person of the Son is another,
and that of the Holy Spirit still another.
But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one,
their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.

What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has.
The Father is uncreated,
the Son is uncreated,
the Holy Spirit is uncreated.

The Father is immeasurable,
the Son is immeasurable,
the Holy Spirit is immeasurable.

The Father is eternal,
the Son is eternal,
the Holy Spirit is eternal.

And yet there are not three eternal beings;
there is but one eternal being.
So too there are not three uncreated or immeasurable beings;
there is but one uncreated and immeasurable being.

Similarly, the Father is almighty,
the Son is almighty,
the Holy Spirit is almighty.
Yet there are not three almighty beings;
there is but one almighty being.

Thus the Father is God,
the Son is God,
the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet there are not three gods;
there is but one God.

Thus the Father is Lord,
the Son is Lord,
the Holy Spirit is Lord.
Yet there are not three lords;
there is but one Lord.

Just as Christian truth compels us
to confess each person individually
as both God and Lord,
so catholic religion forbids us
to say that there are three gods or lords.

The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten from anyone.
The Son was neither made nor created;
he was begotten from the Father alone.
The Holy Spirit was neither made nor created nor begotten;
he proceeds from the Father and the Son.

Accordingly there is one Father, not three fathers;
there is one Son, not three sons;
there is one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

Nothing in this trinity is before or after,
nothing is greater or smaller;
in their entirety the three persons
are coeternal and coequal with each other.

So in everything, as was said earlier,
we must worship their trinity in their unity
and their unity in their trinity.

Anyone then who desires to be saved
should think thus about the trinity.

But it is necessary for eternal salvation
that one also believe in the incarnation
of our Lord Jesus Christ faithfully.

Now this is the true faith:

That we believe and confess
that our Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son,
is both God and human, equally.

He is God from the essence of the Father,
begotten before time;
and he is human from the essence of his mother,
born in time;
completely God, completely human,
with a rational soul and human flesh;
equal to the Father as regards divinity,
less than the Father as regards humanity.

Although he is God and human,
yet Christ is not two, but one.
He is one, however,
not by his divinity being turned into flesh,
but by God's taking humanity to himself.
He is one,
certainly not by the blending of his essence,
but by the unity of his person.
For just as one human is both rational soul and flesh,
so too the one Christ is both God and human.

He suffered for our salvation;
he descended to hell;
he arose from the dead;
he ascended to heaven;
he is seated at the Father's right hand;
from there he will come to judge the living and the dead.
At his coming all people will arise bodily
and give an accounting of their own deeds.
Those who have done good will enter eternal life,
and those who have done evil will enter eternal fire.

This is the catholic faith:
one cannot be saved without believing it firmly and faithfully.


If you can understand that....
 
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So do you accept the truth of 1 John 5:7 KJB?
Please take note that the King James Bible was the Bible used for hundreds of years long before the Modern Translations showed up. So the KJB at one point would have been your authority. But most just throw that Bible out the window.

I accept the truth of how all MMS read prior to the 14th century… and how my KJV reads …now.

5:7 in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth


I use the King James for three reasons.

*There is not patent on the Bible (per se).

*Many (obviously not all) of the added word are in italic.

*It’s what I started out with. I prefer old English to any newer American versions.

That’s it ….and I know people highly esteem this KJV… but it was translated from probably some of the worst and latest MMS and other areas and was hastily compiled.

My research does not rely on different Bible versions… it goes a bit deeper than that.
 
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First, this is not the topic of this thread.
Second, I am not in disagreement that Christ’s death started the New Covenant.
Anyways, please keep on topic with what the OP actually says.


I started right down that path, and then you claimed Jeremiah 31:34 has not been fulfilled no matter what is found in Hebrews 8:6-13.


1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


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I started right down that path, and then you claimed Jeremiah 31:34 has not been fulfilled no matter what is found in Hebrews 8:6-13.


1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


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Please stay on topic with the thread.

Thank you.
 
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I accept the truth of how all MMS read prior to the 14th century… and how my KJV reads …now.

5:7 in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth


I use the King James for three reasons.

*There is not patent on the Bible (per se).

*Many (obviously not all) of the added word are in italic.

*It’s what I started out with. I prefer old English to any newer American versions.

That’s it ….and I know people highly esteem this KJV… but it was translated from probably some of the worst and latest MMS and other areas and was hastily compiled.

My research does not rely on different Bible versions… it goes a bit deeper than that.

Most people reject the KJB as God’s Holy Word because they are sucked into Modern scholarship. Truth is not determined by placing faith in history written by men. Truth is determined by doing a fruits test or by looking at the observable evidence in the here and now. In other words, which Word of God shows forth that it is divine and or more pure than other bibles out there. For there can be only one Word of God. But I am not expecting you to see it. But again, this is not the topic of discussion of this thread. The OP is about asking my fellow Trinitarian Christians about why people reject the Trinity. By your responses, it does not appear you qualify to give any answer within this thread. Non-Trinitarianism cannot be discussed (promoted) in this section of the forums. So by your denial of the Trinity, you are promoting Non-Trinitarianism (Which is forbidden for this thread section).
 
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We had a whole thread on that and no one could show it anywhere. At least the modern understanding of it. Seriously, we had 10 pages and not a single passage saying that there was being called God who consisted of three persons.

This is the statement of faith from this forum.

Statement of Faith
The Nicene Creed
We believe in (Romans 10:8-10; 1John 4:15)
ONE God, (Deuteronomy 6:4, Ephesians 4:6)
the Father (Matthew 6:9)
Almighty, (Exodus 6:3)
Maker of Heaven and Earth, (Genesis 1:1)
and of all things visible and invisible. (Colossians 1:15-16)
And in ONE Lord Jesus Christ, (Acts 11:17)
the Son of God, (Mathew 14:33; 16:16)
the Only-Begotten, (John 1:18; 3:16)
Begotten of the Father before all ages. (John 1:2)
Light of Light; (Psalm 27:1; John 8:12; Matthew 17:2,5)
True God of True God; (John 17:1-5)
Begotten, not made; (John 1:18)
of one essence with the Father (John 10:30)
by whom all things were made; (Hebrews 1:1-2)
Who for us men and for our salvation (1Timothy 2:4-5)
came down from Heaven, (John 6:33,35)
and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, (Luke 1:35)
and became man. (John 1:14)
And was crucified for us (Mark 15:25; 1Cointhians 15:3)
under Pontius Pilate, (John 19:6)
and suffered, (Mark 8:31)
and was buried. (Luke 23:53; 1Corinthians 15:4)
And the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures. (Luke 24:1 1Corinthians 15:4)
And ascended into Heaven, (Luke 24:51; Acts 1:10)
and sits at the right hand of the Father. (Mark 16:19; Acts 7:55)
And He shall come again with glory (Matthew 24:27)
to judge the living and the dead; (Acts 10:42; 2Timothy 4:1)
whose Kingdom shall have no end. (2 Peter 1:11)
And in the Holy Spirit, (John 14:26)
the Lord, (Acts 5:3-4)
the Giver of Life, (Genesis 1:2)
Who proceeds from the Father; (John 15:26)
Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; (Matthew 3:16-17)
Who spoke through the prophets. (1 Samuel 19:20 ; Ezekiel 11:5,13) In one, (Matthew 16: 18)
holy, (1 Peter 2:5,9)
catholic*, (Mark 16:15)
and apostolic Church. (Acts 2:42; Ephesians 2:19-22)
I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins**. (Ephesians 4:5; Acts 2:38)
I look for the resurrection of the dead, (John 11:24; 1Corinthians 15:12-49; Hebrews 6:2; Revelation 20:5)
and the life of the world to come. (Mark 10:29-30)
AMEN. (Psalm 106:48)


This is what we're supposed to hold to. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that if we did a survey of everyone on this forum I would be the only one who actually believes this. Maybe Sandman, I don't know what he believes. I'd bet everyone else believes this that came in the 5th century and is not in the Statement of Faith. There's big difference.

Athanasian Creed
Whoever desires to be saved should above all hold to the catholic faith.

Anyone who does not keep it whole and unbroken will doubtless perish eternally.

Now this is the catholic faith:

That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity,
neither blending their persons
nor dividing their essence.
For the person of the Father is a distinct person,
the person of the Son is another,
and that of the Holy Spirit still another.
But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one,
their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.

What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has.
The Father is uncreated,
the Son is uncreated,
the Holy Spirit is uncreated.

The Father is immeasurable,
the Son is immeasurable,
the Holy Spirit is immeasurable.

The Father is eternal,
the Son is eternal,
the Holy Spirit is eternal.

And yet there are not three eternal beings;
there is but one eternal being.
So too there are not three uncreated or immeasurable beings;
there is but one uncreated and immeasurable being.

Similarly, the Father is almighty,
the Son is almighty,
the Holy Spirit is almighty.
Yet there are not three almighty beings;
there is but one almighty being.

Thus the Father is God,
the Son is God,
the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet there are not three gods;
there is but one God.

Thus the Father is Lord,
the Son is Lord,
the Holy Spirit is Lord.
Yet there are not three lords;
there is but one Lord.

Just as Christian truth compels us
to confess each person individually
as both God and Lord,
so catholic religion forbids us
to say that there are three gods or lords.

The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten from anyone.
The Son was neither made nor created;
he was begotten from the Father alone.
The Holy Spirit was neither made nor created nor begotten;
he proceeds from the Father and the Son.

Accordingly there is one Father, not three fathers;
there is one Son, not three sons;
there is one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

Nothing in this trinity is before or after,
nothing is greater or smaller;
in their entirety the three persons
are coeternal and coequal with each other.

So in everything, as was said earlier,
we must worship their trinity in their unity
and their unity in their trinity.

Anyone then who desires to be saved
should think thus about the trinity.

But it is necessary for eternal salvation
that one also believe in the incarnation
of our Lord Jesus Christ faithfully.

Now this is the true faith:

That we believe and confess
that our Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son,
is both God and human, equally.

He is God from the essence of the Father,
begotten before time;
and he is human from the essence of his mother,
born in time;
completely God, completely human,
with a rational soul and human flesh;
equal to the Father as regards divinity,
less than the Father as regards humanity.

Although he is God and human,
yet Christ is not two, but one.
He is one, however,
not by his divinity being turned into flesh,
but by God's taking humanity to himself.
He is one,
certainly not by the blending of his essence,
but by the unity of his person.
For just as one human is both rational soul and flesh,
so too the one Christ is both God and human.

He suffered for our salvation;
he descended to hell;
he arose from the dead;
he ascended to heaven;
he is seated at the Father's right hand;
from there he will come to judge the living and the dead.
At his coming all people will arise bodily
and give an accounting of their own deeds.
Those who have done good will enter eternal life,
and those who have done evil will enter eternal fire.

This is the catholic faith:
one cannot be saved without believing it firmly and faithfully.


If you can understand that....

Read the statement of faith again for this thread section. Non-Trinitarianism cannot be discussed here. So your promotion of Non-Trinitarianism is not allowed in this section of the forums. Please stop. You also do not qualify to post in this thread, either. This thread was asked towards Trinitarian brothers and sisters in Christ as to why people reject the Trinity. Note: I will update the thread title to make this fact clear. You are not welcome in this thread. You are only disrupting it.
 
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It's all we have. There is so much error taught today that so many aren't aware of. So many believe things that aren't even Christian. I do think a lot of it is as BibleHighlighter suggested, many are afraid to be an outcast. They don't want to make waves so they go along. That's not me. The truth at all costs. How horrible would it be to stand before Jesus and have Him say that most of what someone believed was wrong? Sadly, I believe that many will see this. It doesn't have to be that way. But, not many are willing to go against the flow to find out.

Again, I am not buying your sole claim to the truth on how God reveals Himself in Scripture.
I have heard the same arguments you have made by Anti-Trinitarians in the past many times, and they simply do not hold water. I have seen the debates many times and Anti-Trinitarianism is a bankrupt position in light of God’s Word. So yes. The truth at all costs. But that is not Anti-Trinitarianism.

Also, truth is not always determined by it always having to be within the minority view. For if that was the case, then Flat earth must be true. But we know that such a minority view is false.

Anyways, please refrain from posting in this thread.
You are not allowed to post in this particular thread.
 
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Read the statement of faith again for this thread section. Non-Trinitarianism cannot be discussed here. So your promotion of Non-Trinitarianism is not allowed in this section of the forums. Please stop. You also do not qualify to post in this thread, either. This thread was asked towards Trinitarian brothers and sisters in Christ as to why people reject the Trinity. Note: I will update the thread title to make this fact clear. You are not welcome in this thread. You are only disrupting it.
As I said before, my belief of rhe Trinity is different than the typical belief. However it falls in line with the statement faith, unlike yours. If you're going to tell people they can't post here because their understand doesn't fit yours, shouldn't you abide by the same rules? Your understand doesn't align with the statement of faith for this forum. If you don't hold it why are you posting here? As I said, I'm probably the only one here who adheres to the statement of faith.

If you can't defend your beliefs or don't want them challenged them maybe it would be better to just and not post.
 
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As I said before, my belief of rhe Trinity is different than the typical belief. However it falls in line with the statement faith, unlike yours. If you're going to tell people they can't post here because their understand doesn't fit yours, shouldn't you abide by the same rules? Your understand doesn't align with the statement of faith for this forum. If you don't hold it why are you posting here? As I said, I'm probably the only one here who adheres to the statement of faith.

If you can't defend your beliefs or don't want them challenged them maybe it would be better to just and not post.
I'm not allowed? Really? Is that because you can't defend your beliefs?
 
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