The DeSantis COVID Surge in Florida grows...

The Barbarian · Aug 14, 2021

HannahT said:
You are posting stuff that doesn't make any sense.

Yeah. We have the governor of Florida hiding COVID-19 death data, reporting 29 deaths, and yet we see a hospital with a refrigerated trailer installed, as was done during the previous surges when patients were dying faster than they had morgue space for them.

But hospital spokesman Mike Maucker told BocaNewsNow.com that the refrigerated truck is being used for renovation, not bodies.

Because construction requires refrigeration, right?

Florida stopped reporting numbers

Yep. Gov. Ron now requires it all be sent to him. Given the fact that he hid deaths during the previous surge, makes people suspicious that he's doing it again. Go figure.

- then more than 250 hospitals are reporting directly to the Feds.

Some have contractual and other requirements. But they are a fraction of all the hospitals in Florida, so there's no way to get accurate information on total COVID-19 deaths that way.

They stopped reporting or they are reporting.

Hospitals are now required to report COVID-19 deaths only to DeSantis' people. So there's no way to get the true figure on COVID-19 deaths now. For reasons we all understand. The rising death toll was turning Floridians against him, and he was desperate to do something.

He chose to hide the data.

The Barbarian · Aug 14, 2021

Here's why he's hiding the data:

Florida's death rate from COVID is now more than 32 states combined, as it continues to be badly affected by the highly contagious Delta variant spreading across the U.S.

According to a COVID tracker created by The New York Times, Florida is currently recording a seven-day average of 122.1 deaths in the state from the virus, a figure larger than 32 other states combined.

Florida's figure is also more than double that of the second most affected state, Texas, which is currently recording a seven-day average of 57.6, closely followed by California with around 42 people dying every day.
Florida's COVID death rate is more than 32 states combined

He had to do something. So he did the right-wing thing; hid the data from us.

The Barbarian · Aug 14, 2021

August 13, 2021
BOCA RATON, FL (BocaNewsNow.com) (Copyright © 2021 MetroDesk Media, LLC) — The Florida Hospital Association is not holding back. The association of more than 200 hospitals in Florida revealed Friday afternoon that 2300 people are so sick with COVID that they are on ventilators. According to the FHA, the 2300 people is equal to 14.9 percent of all people hospitalized in Florida with COVID-19, and is holding steady from August 9th.

The Florida Hospital Association also reports that of all patients in ICU’s statewide, 21.6 percent are positive with COVID-19.

Additional statistics: only 14.4 percent of hospital beds in Florida are now available, only 8.8 percent of adult ICU beds are available in the state, and the total percentage of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in Florida currently sits at 31.6 percent of all hospitalized patients.

Another notable number: 45.5 percent of all hospitals in the State of Florida are not accepting patient transfers from other facilities.

The Florida Hospital Association continues to say that the non-vaccinated in Florida are a problem, they are causing a problem for everyone else, and they need to get vaccinated.
FLORIDA: COVID So Bad That 2300 People Now On Ventilators

The Barbarian · Aug 14, 2021

And this is more concerning:

But last month, as Delta spread, that began to change. “The number of positive Covid tests started to climb in early July,” said Marcy Doderer, the president and chief executive of Arkansas Children’s Hospital. “And then that’s when we really started to see the kids get sick.”

The vaccines are effective against Delta — and provide powerful protection against severe disease and death — but children under 12 are not yet eligible for them. So as more and more adults get vaccinated, children make up an increasing share of Covid cases; between July 22 and July 29, they accounted for 19 percent of reported new cases, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.

“They’re the unvaccinated,” said Dr. Yvonne Maldonado, a pediatric infectious-disease specialist at Stanford Medicine and chair of the A.A.P. Committee on Infectious Diseases. “That’s where we’re seeing all the new infections.”
The Delta Variant Is Sending More Children to the Hospital. Are They Sicker, Too?

This is particularly concerning because of the lack of pediatric ICU beds. In my area, for example:

No Pediatric ICU Beds Available in North Texas as COVID-19 Cases Surge
No Pediatric ICU Beds Available in NTX as COVID-19 Cases Surge

Putting them into schools without strict precautions including masks and social distancing makes every such school a superspreader event.

The Barbarian · Aug 15, 2021

The pandemic in Florida continues to rise out of control.

Nearly 26,000 new cases yesterday. And Governor Ron tells us that only 27 died yesterday. Since he started hiding the actual death count, the number of reported deaths declined to almost nothing.

For reasons everyone understands...

But at least one site is finding a way to get data anyway:
In Florida, there were 28,828 newly reported COVID-19 cases and 209 newly reported COVID-19 deaths on Aug 13, 2021
Florida coronavirus cases and deaths

It's not from the Florida website. It lists weekly deaths, but two weeks ago, there suddenly weren't any new data; it just stopped.
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_p..._archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf

HannahT · Aug 15, 2021

The Barbarian said:
The pandemic in Florida continues to rise out of control.
View attachment 304365
Nearly 26,000 new cases yesterday. And Governor Ron tells us that only 27 died yesterday. Since he started hiding the actual death count, the number of reported deaths declined to almost nothing.

For reasons everyone understands...

But at least one site is finding a way to get data anyway:
In Florida, there were 28,828 newly reported COVID-19 cases and 209 newly reported COVID-19 deaths on Aug 13, 2021
Florida coronavirus cases and deaths

It's not from the Florida website. It lists weekly deaths, but two weeks ago, there suddenly weren't any new data; it just stopped.
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_p..._archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf

Okay then. Florida is 'hiding' their data, but secretly some other site is getting it out. Governor RON is hiding it, but is getting out anyway.

The man sure rots at hiding the data doesn't he? Yep.

Like I said before if he wants to hide the date like Cuomo did? Nail the man. (notices that you didn't quote that part of what I said did you? Nope.)

Why the obsession only with Florida? No other state counts?

The Barbarian · Aug 15, 2021

HannahT said:
Okay then. Florida is 'hiding' their data, but secretly some other site is getting it out. Governor RON is hiding it, but is getting out anyway.

The man sure rots at hiding the data doesn't he?

Apparently. A free society makes it pretty hard. Trump had the same problems. You think you've got it all hidden, and someone finds out anyway.

HannahT said:
Like I said before if he wants to hide the date like Cuomo did?

The problem for Cuomo was that he belonged to a party that doesn't tolerate that kind of corruption. Ron belongs to a party that does. So he's never going to face what Cuomo faced.

HannahT said:
Why the obsession only with Florida?

Basically Florida and Texas. As you know, I've pointed out that Governor Abbott is trying the same sort of corrupt control of local authorities,and not surprisingly , they're defying him in Texas, too.

No other state counts?

No one else has botched the pandemic like Abbot and DeSantis:

Florida and Texas lead US COVID-19 surge
The outbreak is concentrated in areas with low vaccination coverage. Today Jeff Zients, the head of the White House COVID-19 response said 1 in 3 cases nationwide occurred in Florida or Texas this week.
Florida and Texas lead US COVID-19 surge

loveofourlord · Aug 15, 2021

HannahT said:
Okay then. Florida is 'hiding' their data, but secretly some other site is getting it out. Governor RON is hiding it, but is getting out anyway.

The man sure rots at hiding the data doesn't he? Yep.

Like I said before if he wants to hide the date like Cuomo did? Nail the man. (notices that you didn't quote that part of what I said did you? Nope.)

Why the obsession only with Florida? No other state counts?

Because no other state has been as evil about covid, except maybe texas, desantis has ordered people not to curb covid, tried to hide the data by not allowing it to directly get out among other things. Florida is the worst hit state right now, and he's doing everything to keep it that way.

The Barbarian · Aug 15, 2021

We pointed out—again, and again, and again—that the data didn’t support the connection between density and spread of the virus. Some of the world’s densest cities largely avoided the pandemic; some of America’s most rural areas, like the Navajo Nation, have been the hardest hit. The data show that overcrowded housing, poverty, lack of access to medical care, and poor adherence to social distancing protocols, not urban density, is what amplifies the spread of the disease.

It’s actually now the case that for the most part, the pandemic is worse in rural America than in the nation’s metro areas. Our friends at the Daily Yonder, who’ve been tracking the spread of the virus since early Spring, now conclude that

Rural and urban infection numbers are headed in opposite directions, meaning rural areas are now generating a disproportionately high number of new infections. Starting in early August, rural counties started to account for a larger share of Covid-19 cases (this week at 18%) and deaths (now 19%) than their population (at 14.03%).

They’ve mapped the places where the current level of new cases is highest: it’s clearly in the heartland of rural America. The worst hit areas stretch in a band of red from the Gulf Coast to the Dakotas.
City Observatory - Covid-19 is now a rural and red state pandemic

Because of the far-right campaign against masks and vaccinations, it's likely to get worse before it gets better.

iluvatar5150 · Aug 16, 2021

The Barbarian said:
We pointed out—again, and again, and again—that the data didn’t support the connection between density and spread of the virus. Some of the world’s densest cities largely avoided the pandemic; some of America’s most rural areas, like the Navajo Nation, have been the hardest hit. The data show that overcrowded housing, poverty, lack of access to medical care, and poor adherence to social distancing protocols, not urban density, is what amplifies the spread of the disease.

It’s actually now the case that for the most part, the pandemic is worse in rural America than in the nation’s metro areas. Our friends at the Daily Yonder, who’ve been tracking the spread of the virus since early Spring, now conclude that

Rural and urban infection numbers are headed in opposite directions, meaning rural areas are now generating a disproportionately high number of new infections. Starting in early August, rural counties started to account for a larger share of Covid-19 cases (this week at 18%) and deaths (now 19%) than their population (at 14.03%).

They’ve mapped the places where the current level of new cases is highest: it’s clearly in the heartland of rural America. The worst hit areas stretch in a band of red from the Gulf Coast to the Dakotas.
City Observatory - Covid-19 is now a rural and red state pandemic

Because of the far-right campaign against masks and vaccinations, it's likely to get worse before it gets better.

That's from a year ago. I'd be interested to see an updated analysis.

The Barbarian · Aug 16, 2021

iluvatar5150 said:
That's from a year ago. I'd be interested to see an updated analysis.

By June 7, 2021, the regions with the highest prevalence of cumulative COVID-19 cases included much of the Midwest and South regions and parts of the Mountain region of the western United States. (The names of regions referenced in this paragraph are based on the Census Regions and Divisions of the United States.) Less affected areas include most of the Northeast and Pacific regions—though many exceptions are evident in these regions.

The "COVID Corridor" runs from Florida, up to Montana. It cuts through much of the rural country of the United States.
USDA ERS - The COVID-19 Pandemic and Rural America

The Barbarian · Aug 16, 2021

It really doesn't mean anything legally, but...

Petition To Recall Ron DeSantis Skyrockets As Florida Hospitals Fill
On Saturday, sixteen months and 637,000 deaths after former President Donald Trump promised Americans that the COVID-19 virus would just go away, Trump ally and governor of Florida Ron DeSantis presided over a state with 15,840 residents hospitalized for a contagious virus that he refuses to acknowledge and take measures to protect people from. A petition started over a year ago was suddenly revived and the number of signatures began to explode, reaching 35,000 by Sunday.
Petition To Recall Ron DeSantis Skyrockets As Florida Hospitals Fill

The Barbarian · Aug 17, 2021

Deaths are still not being reported, as the Governor ordered that all death data be sent only to the state. However, he hasn't yet controlled the hospitalization data:

The Barbarian · Aug 19, 2021

Meanwhile, in Georgia...

Georgia will spend $125 million to expand hospital staff and capacity, Gov. Brian Kemp said Monday.

The announcement comes after rural hospital leaders warned the governor about staff shortages as they deal with the COVID-19 pandemic. Kemp said the state will double hospital staff and make 450 additional beds available.
...
Despite increasing hospitalizations, Kemp reiterated he would not shut down businesses or mandate face coverings.
Kemp directs $125M to boost hospital staff in Georgia

Kinda like the factory manager who refuses to repair leaky gasoline lines, and instead builds a bigger sprinkler system.

The Barbarian · Aug 19, 2021

The state added 1,071 deaths since the previous week’s report, up 74 percent from the week before. This brings the total statewide number of pandemic deaths to 40,766. The report indicates that 286 deaths occurred in the past seven days, but it can take officials up to two weeks to confirm and report a coronavirus-related death.

The Florida Department of Health announced in June that it would no longer release daily COVID-19 data. Instead, it is now releasing a weekly report every Friday, but withholds information that was publicly available before.
...
As of June 4, the state no longer reports non-resident vaccinations, coronavirus cases and fatalities. The state has declined repeated requests to provide non-resident data to the Tampa Bay Times.
Florida adds 151,415 coronavirus cases, 1,071 deaths in past week

The Barbarian · Aug 20, 2021

Paging Dr. Rivkees: Florida’s kids are getting COVID, but its surgeon general is missing in action
Where in the world is Florida’s surgeon general — a pediatrician, no less — as COVID numbers spike for kids in Florida?

We may have trouble summoning up his face, but Dr. Scott Rivkees was named to the top medical job in the state by Gov. Ron DeSantis in April 2019. The doctor’s official biography on the state’s website is overflowing with pediatrics (though not public health) credentials: He was “professor and chair of the Department of Pediatrics at the University of Florida College of Medicine and physician-in-chief of UF Health Shands Children’s Hospital.” He served as “academic chair of pediatrics at Orlando Health and pediatric chair at Studer Family Children’s Hospital at Sacred Heart in Pensacola.”

And yet he’s been pretty much missing from the public eye as the state continues to face its worst health crisis ever, with children being hospitalized for COVID in greater numbers. Unfortunately, masks in schools have become a ridiculously contested issue, as thousands of students in districts across the state are being exposed to COVID and sent home to isolate or quarantine.
https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion...ce=pushly&intcid=pushly_1289923#storylink=cpy

Click the link and read on. It gets worse. The doc was abruptly removed from the podium by DeSantis' communication director when he went off-message and said that social distancing was necessary. After that, he kept quiet.

Meantime, DeSantis continues to fight school boards working on prevention, and touting a drug that is said to be effective in treating COVID-19 infections after kids get sick.

Oh, and a major DeSantis donor has put a lot of money into Regeneron.

MIAMI (CBSMiami/AP) — As Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis criss-crosses the state opening monoclonal antibody treatment centers using Regeneron as a post-exposure prevention for COVID-19, he is also being criticized because one of his top donors is a Regeneron investor.
AP: Top Donor Of Gov. Ron DeSantis Is Regeneron Investor

If the surge declines, so will the value of that investment. Makes sense, doesn't it?

The Barbarian · Aug 20, 2021

Florida’s weekly COVID update: State passes 3 million cases, 150,740 more reported
The state also saw 1,476 more deaths, up from 1,071 deaths reported from Aug. 6 to Aug. 12, the last time the state published its weekly COVID report.

In all, the state has recorded a known total of at least 3,071,489 coronavirus cases and 42,986 deaths since the pandemic began.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/st...ce=pushly&intcid=pushly_1291472#storylink=cpy

About 21,500 new cases per day. About 210 deaths per day. That's as bad as it was at the peak of the last surge. But now, with DeSantis trying to keep local governments from doing anything to stop the surge, it's still in the exponential growth phase. If it goes as it has, and the state peaks out with new cases tomorrow, deaths will continue to increase for about 2 weeks.

The Barbarian · Aug 20, 2021

classical5 · Aug 20, 2021

The Barbarian said:
The pandemic in Florida continues to rise out of control.
View attachment 304365
Nearly 26,000 new cases yesterday. And Governor Ron tells us that only 27 died yesterday. Since he started hiding the actual death count, the number of reported deaths declined to almost nothing.

For reasons everyone understands...

But at least one site is finding a way to get data anyway:
In Florida, there were 28,828 newly reported COVID-19 cases and 209 newly reported COVID-19 deaths on Aug 13, 2021
Florida coronavirus cases and deaths

It's not from the Florida website. It lists weekly deaths, but two weeks ago, there suddenly weren't any new data; it just stopped.
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_p..._archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf

LOL. Never before seen such ridiculous tin foil hat lunacy.

I live in Florida. Local hospitals are fine. Just heard on the local NBC news that local hospitals had in increase in covid cases but were nowhere near max capacity and did not expect to be.

let us know when you have news that Bigfoot got covid and was abducted by aliens and cured.

loveofourlord · Aug 21, 2021

classical5 said:
LOL. Never before seen such ridiculous tin foil hat lunacy.

I live in Florida. Local hospitals are fine. Just heard on the local NBC news that local hospitals had in increase in covid cases but were nowhere near max capacity and did not expect to be.

let us know when you have news that Bigfoot got covid and was abducted by aliens and cured.

really? Because that's not the case, they are short staffed, running out of room and the doctors and nurses are getting exahusted. Especially in the south, it's pretty much all over the news, maybe your in a area with less congestion, or your wrong. But it's all over the news in Florida.

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