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Actually, it's part of Friday and part of Saturday according to how God has revealed How to Determine the Beginning and the End of the Day.
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THE LORD'S DAY IS NOT SUNDAY!
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New Covenant/Testimement scripture was written by the apostles. Ignatius was a disciple of those apostles and a leader of the church established by Christ.
"if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth." 1 Timothy 3:15
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Funny how when someone quotes Ignatius, and other early church fathers regarding the sabbath, those writings don't count because they're not scripture.
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The copies of the original manuscripts commissioned by the Church, are what we all rely on for reading scripture. If the Church was apostate and corrupt then we can't rely on those copies, so the credibility of whole New Testament we're reading goes right out the window.
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Really? Who has ever said to you that everyone in the early church was apostate and why do you think God is not in control of his Word?
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They are. But so were the Jews and Israel; but God preserved the Holy Writ through them regardless and kept out what was not.
The bread and wine is actually Christ? Pray to Mary because she is our intercessor not Christ? Confession of sins to priests?
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Those traditions came along centuries after Ignatius and other early church fathers wrote about the sabbath.
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I said the disciples of the apostles. The early church leaders and teachers appointed by the apostles. All we have to go by are a few letters by the apostles to the church that survived. They I'm sure were taught much more than that by the apostles, and it would therefore be foolish to dismiss what they had to say about the sabbath and other matters. Stuff that started being taught way after that by Augustine and others is another matter. One thing is for sure; neither the apostles nor the early church fathers said we are to keep the sabbath, because if such existed sabbatarians would be parading it all over the place.
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The Sabbath is observed over two days, from Friday evening to Saturday evening. Would not Saturday 0001 till Saturday 2400 be the Sabbath? Afterall, God rested on the 6th day not on the 5th and 6th day. Thanks in advance for the clarification.
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The Lords day is a sunday.
I believe in Sacred Scripture AND Sacred Tradition.
Jesus brought with Him a new covenant.
God bless everyone.
I believe in Sacred Scripture AND Sacred Tradition.
Jesus brought with Him a new covenant.
God bless everyone.
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Every day.
The Lord created all days, Genesis 1.
This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it, Psalms 118:24.
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I wondered about that myself. I suppose back then a day was measured from sunset to sunset.
Edit: Since the Jewish religious calendar counts days from sunset to sunset, Shabbat begins in the evening of what on the civil calendar is Friday.
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God wrote the New Covenant Hebrews 8:10, Jeremiah 31:33 and God’s laws are now written in the heart, which of course includes the holy day of the Lord thy God and 4th commandment.
Jesus kept the laws of His Father and never came to destroy God’s laws John 14:15, Mathew 5:17-20 Jesus came to magnify the law Isaiah 42:21
Which is why the Sabbath is still a commandment in the New Testament Matthew 12:2, Luke 23:56 and why Jesus kept the Sabbath reading scriptures in the Temple as was His custom Luke 4:16 and Jesus telling us the Sabbath was made for man Mark 2:27
I noticed you did not provide scripture in your post so how does your opinion compare with the Word of God on these really easy to read scripture below:
Exodus 20: 8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day.Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day, And call the Sabbath a delight The holy day of the Lord honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words, (how can you possibly argue the Lord's day is the first day when this makes it so clear which is the Lords day)
Mark 2:28 28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”
There is no scripture telling us Sunday is the Lords day or God’s new holy day. Which is why the Sabbath will continue for eternity to be God’s chosen day and not the first day. Isaiah 66:23
God bless!
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10. “ The Lord’s day ” occurs but once in the Holy Scriptures, afterwards it became the common appellation of the Christian’s special day of rest and worship. That the first day of the week is meant seems evident from the following considerations: First, the difference of the expression used in the original from that employed to set forth the prophetic “day of the Lord,” for which see 1 Corinthians 5:5 ; 2Co 1:14 ; 1 Thessalonians 5:2 . Second, the character of the first vision (vv. 12-20), which is of present application. Christ glorified in the midst of the churches could have neither place nor meaning in the period of coming judgment, spoken of in both Testaments as the “day of the Lord,” and which is dependent upon the setting aside of the Church as a public witness for God on earth. These, and other considerations, forbid the application of the disputed term to the “day of the Lord,” yet future.
Two great facts stamp their character on the first day of the week, the resurrection of the Lord from the dead (John 20:1-31 ) and the founding of the Church at Pentecost (Leviticus 23:16 , with Acts 2:1-47 ). Thus, “the Lord’s day ” is no ordinary day, nor is “the Lord’s supper ” an ordinary meal. Both the “day” and the “supper” are distinctively His.
Barton W Johnson
On the Lord's day. The day of the Lord's Resurrection, the first day of the week. In the earlier apostolic writings the day was called "the first day of the week," but by the close of the century it began to be called "the Lord's day," as here. Epistles of Barnabas, Ignatius and Dionysius, written near this time, so style it, and the name is of common occurrence from this time onward, and is confined to Sunday. It is not confounded with the "Sabbath day" of many centuries. See Dr. Wm. Smith's Unabridged Dictionary of the Bible, article "Lord's Day."
Jamieson, Fausset, & Brown
On the Lord's day. Though forcibly detained from church communion with the brethren on "the Lord's day," the weekly commemoration of the resurrection, John was enjoying spiritual communion. The earliest mention of the term. But the consecration of the day to worship, almsgiving, and the Lord's supper, is implied, Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2: cf. John 20:19-26. It corresponds to "the Lord's supper," 1 Corinthians 11:20. Ignatius alludes to "the "Lord's day" ('Ad Magnes,' 9
, and Irenaeus, in the 'Quaests. ad Orthod.,' 115: (in Justin Martyr). Justin Martyr, 'Apology,' 2:, 98, etc., 'On Sunday we hold our joint meeting: for the first day is that on which God, having removed darkness, made the world, and Jesus Christ our Saviour rose from the dead. On the day before Saturday they crucified Him; on the day after Saturday, Sunday, having appeared to His apostles, He taught.' To it Pliny refers ('Ep.,' 97:, b. 10: 'The Christians, on a fixed day, before dawn, meet and sing a hymn to Christ as God,' etc.
The Bible Study New Testament
On the Lord’s day. The resurrection of Jesus on Sunday caused that day to be known as the Lord’s day. The letters written by Barnabas, Ignatius and Dionysius near this time, speak of the Lord’s day in this way, and this “name” is commonly used from that time onward. It is not to be confused with the “Sabbath day” which was Saturday (see Smith’s Bible Dictionary, etc.).
G. H. Everett
Revelation 1:10 “I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day” Comments - John’s phrase “on the Lord’s day” ( εν τη κυριακη ημερα ) is unique to Scriptures and is generally understood as a reference to Sunday, the first day of the week. Because Jesus Christ rose on the first day of the week, the early Church began to meet on that day rather than on the Sabbath (Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2).
A.T. Robertson
On the Lord's Day (εν τη κυριακη ημερα). Deissmann has proven (Bible Studies, p. 217f.; Light, etc., p. 357ff.) from inscriptions and papyri that the word κυριακος was in common use for the sense "imperial" as imperial finance and imperial treasury and from papyri and ostraca that ημερα Σεβαστη (Augustus Day) was the first day of each month, Emperor's Day on which money payments were made (cf. 1 Corinthians 16:1). It was easy, therefore, for the Christians to take this term, already in use, and apply it to the first day of the week in honour of the Lord Jesus Christ's resurrection on that day (Didache 14, Ignatius Magn. 9). In the N.T. the word occurs only here and 1 Corinthians 11:20 (κυριακον δειπνον θε Λορδ'ς Συππερ). It has no reference to ημερα κυριου (the day of judgment, 2 Peter 3:10).
Thomas Coke
Revelation 1:10. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day,— That is, the day which we in general call Sunday; denominated the Lord's day, in memory of his resurrection from the dead. That the primitive Christians set this day apart for religious worship, appears both from St. Paul's Epistles, and from Justin Martyr's Apology, Ignatius, Tertullian, &c.
Hanserd Knollys Commentary
The time when John was in the "Spirit" is here called, "the LORD’S DAY." Had the text been here, "in the day of the LORD" or, "in that day of the LORD;" it might have been understood and expounded of any notable day of the LORD recorded in the Holy Scripture; (as 1 Corinthians 5:5; 2 Corinthians 1:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; and 2 Peter 3:10). But the text here being "on the LORD’S day," it must be understood and expounded of that day only and most properly so called; which was well known to all the churches of saints to belong peculiarly unto Christ, then being the day of His resurrection, on which day the disciples met together to break bread, Acts 10:7 being the first day of the week. The like propriety of speech we have so expressed by the apostle; {1 Corinthians 11:20; 1 Corinthians 11:25} "the LORD’S Supper;" which was indeed Instituted by the LORD himself. And the Lord’s Day, properly so called here, was the first day of the week, {as Matthew 28:1} In the end of the Sabbath; that was, the seventh day Sabbath, which then was done away, as it began to dawn "towards the first of Sabbaths;" {so Mr 16:12} [Valde mane une Sabbatrum; the Sabbath being finished,] ( to which, the seventh day Sabbath being now ended) very early in the morning, that is, early of the first of Sabbaths.
Matthew Henry
The day and time in which he had this vision: it was the Lord's day, the day which Christ had separated and set apart for himself, as the eucharist is called the Lord's supper. Surely this can be no other than the Christian sabbath, the first day of the week, to be observed in remembrance of the resurrection of Christ. Let us who call him our Lord honour him on his own day, the day which the Lord hath made and in which we ought to rejoice. 4. The frame that his soul was in at this time:
John Wesley
On the Lord's day — On this our Lord rose from the dead: on this the ancients believed he will come to judgment. It was, therefore, with the utmost propriety that St. John on this day both saw and described his coming.
Daniel Whedon
The Lord’s day. A phrase parallel to “the Lord’s supper,” 1 Corinthians 11:20, (where see note,) and similarly indicating that the institution was established by our Lord. See our notes on Mark 2:27; John 20:26; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.
The early Christian writers applied the word sabbath to the Jewish Saturday-sabbath, and called the Christian sabbath “the Lord’s day,” yet without thereby admitting that the Lord’s day was not the decalogue sabbath. It was of the heretical sect of Ebionites that Theodoret said, “They keep the sabbath according to Jewish law, and sanctify the Lord’s day in like manner as we do.” Says Stuart: “A party in the Christian Church adhered to this usage so long and so tenaciously that finally the Council of Laodicea (about A.D. 350) made a decree that “Christians should no longer keep the seventh day by refraining from labour.” The Church historian, Eusebius, who had all the Christian literature on the subject at command, is quoted by Stuart as saying, in his commentary on Psalm xcii: “The Word,” (that is, Christ,) “by the new covenant, translated and transferred the feast of the sabbath to the morning light, and gave as the symbol of true rest namely, the Lord’s day the first day of the light in which the Saviour… obtained the victory over death, etc. On this day… we assemble, after an interval of six days, and celebrate the holy spiritual sabbath; even all nations redeemed by him throughout the world, and do those things according to the spiritual laws which were decreed for the priests to do on the sabbath.… All things whatever that it was their duty to do on the sabbath, these we have transferred to the Lord’s day, as more appropriate to it, because it has a precedence, and is first in rank; and more honourable than the Jewish sabbath. It is traditionally handed down to us, that we should meet together on this day; and it is ordered that we should do these things announced in the Psalm.”
10. “ The Lord’s day ” occurs but once in the Holy Scriptures, afterwards it became the common appellation of the Christian’s special day of rest and worship. That the first day of the week is meant seems evident from the following considerations: First, the difference of the expression used in the original from that employed to set forth the prophetic “day of the Lord,” for which see 1 Corinthians 5:5 ; 2Co 1:14 ; 1 Thessalonians 5:2 . Second, the character of the first vision (vv. 12-20), which is of present application. Christ glorified in the midst of the churches could have neither place nor meaning in the period of coming judgment, spoken of in both Testaments as the “day of the Lord,” and which is dependent upon the setting aside of the Church as a public witness for God on earth. These, and other considerations, forbid the application of the disputed term to the “day of the Lord,” yet future.
Two great facts stamp their character on the first day of the week, the resurrection of the Lord from the dead (John 20:1-31 ) and the founding of the Church at Pentecost (Leviticus 23:16 , with Acts 2:1-47 ). Thus, “the Lord’s day ” is no ordinary day, nor is “the Lord’s supper ” an ordinary meal. Both the “day” and the “supper” are distinctively His.
Barton W Johnson
On the Lord's day. The day of the Lord's Resurrection, the first day of the week. In the earlier apostolic writings the day was called "the first day of the week," but by the close of the century it began to be called "the Lord's day," as here. Epistles of Barnabas, Ignatius and Dionysius, written near this time, so style it, and the name is of common occurrence from this time onward, and is confined to Sunday. It is not confounded with the "Sabbath day" of many centuries. See Dr. Wm. Smith's Unabridged Dictionary of the Bible, article "Lord's Day."
Jamieson, Fausset, & Brown
On the Lord's day. Though forcibly detained from church communion with the brethren on "the Lord's day," the weekly commemoration of the resurrection, John was enjoying spiritual communion. The earliest mention of the term. But the consecration of the day to worship, almsgiving, and the Lord's supper, is implied, Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2: cf. John 20:19-26. It corresponds to "the Lord's supper," 1 Corinthians 11:20. Ignatius alludes to "the "Lord's day" ('Ad Magnes,' 9
, and Irenaeus, in the 'Quaests. ad Orthod.,' 115: (in Justin Martyr). Justin Martyr, 'Apology,' 2:, 98, etc., 'On Sunday we hold our joint meeting: for the first day is that on which God, having removed darkness, made the world, and Jesus Christ our Saviour rose from the dead. On the day before Saturday they crucified Him; on the day after Saturday, Sunday, having appeared to His apostles, He taught.' To it Pliny refers ('Ep.,' 97:, b. 10: 'The Christians, on a fixed day, before dawn, meet and sing a hymn to Christ as God,' etc.The Bible Study New Testament
On the Lord’s day. The resurrection of Jesus on Sunday caused that day to be known as the Lord’s day. The letters written by Barnabas, Ignatius and Dionysius near this time, speak of the Lord’s day in this way, and this “name” is commonly used from that time onward. It is not to be confused with the “Sabbath day” which was Saturday (see Smith’s Bible Dictionary, etc.).
G. H. Everett
Revelation 1:10 “I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day” Comments - John’s phrase “on the Lord’s day” ( εν τη κυριακη ημερα ) is unique to Scriptures and is generally understood as a reference to Sunday, the first day of the week. Because Jesus Christ rose on the first day of the week, the early Church began to meet on that day rather than on the Sabbath (Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2).
A.T. Robertson
On the Lord's Day (εν τη κυριακη ημερα). Deissmann has proven (Bible Studies, p. 217f.; Light, etc., p. 357ff.) from inscriptions and papyri that the word κυριακος was in common use for the sense "imperial" as imperial finance and imperial treasury and from papyri and ostraca that ημερα Σεβαστη (Augustus Day) was the first day of each month, Emperor's Day on which money payments were made (cf. 1 Corinthians 16:1). It was easy, therefore, for the Christians to take this term, already in use, and apply it to the first day of the week in honour of the Lord Jesus Christ's resurrection on that day (Didache 14, Ignatius Magn. 9). In the N.T. the word occurs only here and 1 Corinthians 11:20 (κυριακον δειπνον θε Λορδ'ς Συππερ). It has no reference to ημερα κυριου (the day of judgment, 2 Peter 3:10).
Thomas Coke
Revelation 1:10. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day,— That is, the day which we in general call Sunday; denominated the Lord's day, in memory of his resurrection from the dead. That the primitive Christians set this day apart for religious worship, appears both from St. Paul's Epistles, and from Justin Martyr's Apology, Ignatius, Tertullian, &c.
Hanserd Knollys Commentary
The time when John was in the "Spirit" is here called, "the LORD’S DAY." Had the text been here, "in the day of the LORD" or, "in that day of the LORD;" it might have been understood and expounded of any notable day of the LORD recorded in the Holy Scripture; (as 1 Corinthians 5:5; 2 Corinthians 1:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; and 2 Peter 3:10). But the text here being "on the LORD’S day," it must be understood and expounded of that day only and most properly so called; which was well known to all the churches of saints to belong peculiarly unto Christ, then being the day of His resurrection, on which day the disciples met together to break bread, Acts 10:7 being the first day of the week. The like propriety of speech we have so expressed by the apostle; {1 Corinthians 11:20; 1 Corinthians 11:25} "the LORD’S Supper;" which was indeed Instituted by the LORD himself. And the Lord’s Day, properly so called here, was the first day of the week, {as Matthew 28:1} In the end of the Sabbath; that was, the seventh day Sabbath, which then was done away, as it began to dawn "towards the first of Sabbaths;" {so Mr 16:12} [Valde mane une Sabbatrum; the Sabbath being finished,] ( to which, the seventh day Sabbath being now ended) very early in the morning, that is, early of the first of Sabbaths.
Matthew Henry
The day and time in which he had this vision: it was the Lord's day, the day which Christ had separated and set apart for himself, as the eucharist is called the Lord's supper. Surely this can be no other than the Christian sabbath, the first day of the week, to be observed in remembrance of the resurrection of Christ. Let us who call him our Lord honour him on his own day, the day which the Lord hath made and in which we ought to rejoice. 4. The frame that his soul was in at this time:
John Wesley
On the Lord's day — On this our Lord rose from the dead: on this the ancients believed he will come to judgment. It was, therefore, with the utmost propriety that St. John on this day both saw and described his coming.
Daniel Whedon
The Lord’s day. A phrase parallel to “the Lord’s supper,” 1 Corinthians 11:20, (where see note,) and similarly indicating that the institution was established by our Lord. See our notes on Mark 2:27; John 20:26; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.
The early Christian writers applied the word sabbath to the Jewish Saturday-sabbath, and called the Christian sabbath “the Lord’s day,” yet without thereby admitting that the Lord’s day was not the decalogue sabbath. It was of the heretical sect of Ebionites that Theodoret said, “They keep the sabbath according to Jewish law, and sanctify the Lord’s day in like manner as we do.” Says Stuart: “A party in the Christian Church adhered to this usage so long and so tenaciously that finally the Council of Laodicea (about A.D. 350) made a decree that “Christians should no longer keep the seventh day by refraining from labour.” The Church historian, Eusebius, who had all the Christian literature on the subject at command, is quoted by Stuart as saying, in his commentary on Psalm xcii: “The Word,” (that is, Christ,) “by the new covenant, translated and transferred the feast of the sabbath to the morning light, and gave as the symbol of true rest namely, the Lord’s day the first day of the light in which the Saviour… obtained the victory over death, etc. On this day… we assemble, after an interval of six days, and celebrate the holy spiritual sabbath; even all nations redeemed by him throughout the world, and do those things according to the spiritual laws which were decreed for the priests to do on the sabbath.… All things whatever that it was their duty to do on the sabbath, these we have transferred to the Lord’s day, as more appropriate to it, because it has a precedence, and is first in rank; and more honourable than the Jewish sabbath. It is traditionally handed down to us, that we should meet together on this day; and it is ordered that we should do these things announced in the Psalm.”
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