The 1 Year Ministry of Christ According to Luke's Chronology

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Christian literally means "follower of Christ". And I've never heard of Yeshua's ministry lasting only one year. You have to ignore a lot of events to hammer that square peg of error into a round hole. Irenaeus even suggested Yeshua's ministry was over 10 years.
"Suggestion" is not proof or evidence...it is equivalent to hearsay. There's nothing in the Gospels indicating that it lasted beyond a year...you could read the Gospels in 10 Hours if you wanted to...and it doesn't even take one year to walk the small circuit Christ did during His ministry...

5470 AM + 30 Years = 5500 AM

This is in line with the prophecy in the creation week and Daniel's 70 Weeks. Unless you can show otherwise then you've got no solid ground to stand on.
 
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5460+40=5500

See what I did there? You need to back up your claims with Scripture. Not just pull numbers out of thin air to force your interpretation of Daniel.

If the status quo is not a 1 year ministry, then you need to provide indisputable evidence to disprove the long held belief in the status quo. Which, as I mentioned, goes waaaaay back to Irenaeus. Now I am not saying he is infallible. But he makes a logical point and uses Scripture to back up his belief.

I don't remember reading about any one year ministry in any early Christian writings. Or in the Bible.
 
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I've done my own chronology, I actually wrote a timeline of all the events in the Bible I could. I wasn't the first to do this and many others have done it too. Yeshua's birth and resurrection around 4000 AM makes much more sense. Especially if you consider the last days verses. If there is a 7000 year week, with the last 1000 being the Millenium, then the last days start at 4000 AM. With each 1000 years being a day. If the Millenium begins in 6000 AM, that would be right about now. Or very soon at least. Probably before 2050. This is my personal opinion. I don't mean to be rude. And you didn't address Irenaeus' opinion either. I think a longer ministry makes much more sense. I don't hold to a specific number of years, but a one year ministry is the least plausible length I've ever heard of. I think you need solid evidence disproving all possibility of a longer than one year ministry, before I am convinced.
Irenaeus, despite his denomination, made a case that Yeshua was at least 40 years old when he was asked "Thou art not yet 50 years of age, and hast thou seen Abraham?" Such talk is not for those who have not passed the age of 40. In fact it seems he was 49. Yeshua was very famous. I don't think His adversaries were completely ignorant of His age. They attempted to dig up any possible dirt they could find on Him.

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The rhetorical question the opponents of Jesus was not hinting at the age of Christ at all...they were basically saying that He had not even reached 50 Yeaes of age while claiming to have seen Abraham who lived thousands of years before Christ came in the flesh.

Again, your own words prove that you aren't basing your conclusions on any solid study or evidence from work you've done yourself, but you clearly state that you're speaking out of opinion.
 
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5460+40=5500

See what I did there? You need to back up your claims with Scripture. Not just pull numbers out of thin air to force your interpretation of Daniel.

If the status quo is not a 1 year ministry, then you need to provide indisputable evidence to disprove the long held belief in the status quo. Which, as I mentioned, goes waaaaay back to Irenaeus. Now I am not saying he is infallible. But he makes a logical point and uses Scripture to back up his belief.

I don't remember reading about any one year ministry in any early Christian writings. Or in the Bible.
Again read my work and all of my evidence is there on my blog....so before you run your mouth with more assumptions go check the work I've done on my blog.
 
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5460+40=5500

See what I did there? You need to back up your claims with Scripture. Not just pull numbers out of thin air to force your interpretation of Daniel.

If the status quo is not a 1 year ministry, then you need to provide indisputable evidence to disprove the long held belief in the status quo. Which, as I mentioned, goes waaaaay back to Irenaeus. Now I am not saying he is infallible. But he makes a logical point and uses Scripture to back up his belief.

I don't remember reading about any one year ministry in any early Christian writings. Or in the Bible.
Hey also you need to stop relying on popular opionion or the "status quo" to do your thinking and use your own brain to think critically and come up with your own original ideas.
 
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Is there a significance to Yeshua's ministry only lasting one year?
Well while one could speculate that Jesus's ministry lasting 1 Year is connected to an unblemished Lamb being 1 Year Old for Passover...the main significance is that the Law of Moses states:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."

While we may be unable to unravel every mystery in the Bible we must always speak truthfully of the Bible when making claims. It is one thing to discuss ideas, and another matter altogether to claim something to be true. Seeing that the Bible doesn't support a 3½ Year Ministry of Jesus the significance then would be that all holding onto what the Scriptures don't support will be found liars...and all liars will be unable to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

So, while keeping the Law will not save us nor get us into heaven: breaking it will bar us from entering.
 
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Is there a significance to Yeshua's ministry only lasting one year?
Several things come to mind, but the Jubilee procphecy Yeshua preached at the start of His ministry stands out. Many scholars believe there was another Passover, not mentioned in the Gospels, which fell between the Passovers of John 2 and John 6. Now there is the stretch of years no gospel discusses.
 
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Another jump... Passover in John 6
The event mentioned just before the Passover in John 6, feeding the 5000, is also mentioned in the other gospels in the following chapter/verses. Good Jews should be heading to Jerusalem for the Passover, even if they are travelling towards Jerusalem they are going to be bringing the food that they will be eating during the feast, so why the food problem?
  • Matt 14:17 And they said to Him, “We have here only five loaves and two fish.”
  • Mark 6:38 But He said to them, “How many loaves do you have? Go and see.” And when they found out they said, “Five, and two fish.”
  • Luke 9:13 But He said to them, “You give them something to eat.” And they said, “We have no more than five loaves and two fish, unless we go and buy food for all these people.”
Looking carefully in gospel of John, the very next chapter (which is 7), speaks of the feast of Tabernacle. That is quite the jump with no indication of what happened during the interm.
  • John 5:1 After this there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
  • John 7:1-2 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee; for He did not want to walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill Him. Now the Jews’ Feast of Tabernacles was at hand.
 
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The date difference between the Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles is roughly 6 months. There is also a feast mentioned in chapter 5 (which may or may not refer to the same Passover feast). As we saw earlier, the gospel of John is not strictly in chronological order and this Passover could very well be the final Passover mentioned in other gospels.
 
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It is 62 weeks to be exact from start of ministry to the end (70 if you include Jesus’ work up until Pentecost as a glorified man appearing intermittently). This fell in line with what Daniel 9 says about the Messiah being cut off after 62 weeks (Dan 9:26)
 
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The oldest Greek manuscript fragment for part of the Gospel of John had a different reading and John 6:4 is missing.

John 6:4 (HCSB) Now the Passover, a Jewish festival, was near.

This oldest fragment that the Critical Apparatus of the Nestle Aland had for that chapter, the oldest orginal fragment preserved, is not there, then that verse was not original to John but added later by some scribe centuries later. At least the is one explaination for this discrepency.
 
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Another clue is the one year old lamb for Passover. The lamb to be sacrificed is to be a year old.

Ex 12:3 Speak to all the assembly of Israel and say, On the tenth day of this month, each man is to take a lamb or kid for his family, one per household; 4 except that if the household is too small for a whole lamb or kid, then he and his next-door neighbor should share one, dividing it in proportion to the number of people eating it. 5 Your animal must be without defect, a male a year old, and you may choose it from either the sheep or the goats.

In order for Yeshua to be the perfect Passover lamb sacrifice, He had to be a one year old without blemish. Yeshua's year of ministry starting at the age of 30 fits the start of His Lamb of God ministry.
 
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Thank you Visionary. Very interesting!
Yes very interesting indeed. I almost forgot about the Jubilee reading, but Yeshua definitely died on a Jubilee...the 110th from Adam to be exact. And this freed us from the bonds of sin and death thereby freeing us from being slaves to them.
 
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The oldest Greek manuscript fragment for part of the Gospel of John had a different reading and John 6:4 is missing.

John 6:4 (HCSB) Now the Passover, a Jewish festival, was near.

This oldest fragment that the Critical Apparatus of the Nestle Aland had for that chapter, the oldest orginal fragment preserved, is not there, then that verse was not original to John but added later by some scribe centuries later. At least the is one explaination for this discrepency.
Which manuscript are you referring to? I believe the earliest manuscript containing any portion of John 6 is Papyrus 66 (2nd/3rd century), and it does have John 6:4. Papyrus 28 (3rd century) contains a portion of John 6, but is useless for trying to determine anything about John 6:4 because it starts with John 6:8, leaving everything prior to that point a mystery. The next two oldest ones that have enough of John 6 to make a judgment are I believe are Sinaiticus and Vaticanus (both 4th century), and each of them have John 6:4 as well.

Is there a manuscript I am overlooking?
 
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The oldest Greek manuscript fragment for part of the Gospel of John had a different reading and John 6:4 is missing.

John 6:4 (HCSB) Now the Passover, a Jewish festival, was near.

This oldest fragment that the Critical Apparatus of the Nestle Aland had for that chapter, the oldest orginal fragment preserved, is not there, then that verse was not original to John but added later by some scribe centuries later. At least the is one explaination for this discrepency.
I read that "Passover" was not included in that verse in some manuscripts. Could it have been another feast? I know you are well-versed on the feasts. :)
 
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The date difference between the Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles is roughly 6 months. There is also a feast mentioned in chapter 5 (which may or may not refer to the same Passover feast). As we saw earlier, the gospel of John is not strictly in chronological order and this Passover could very well be the final Passover mentioned in other gospels.
Yes exactly! While I don't say it outright in any writing my work on my .pdf file on page 1 of this thread shows that if you line up the events properly according to the orderly account of Luke you will not get beyond a 1 Year Ministry. If one looks at the order of events properly then they will see the following:

1) Jesus begins ministry at 30 Years Old (John 2)

2) Jesus foretells his betrayal (John 6)

3) Jesus raises Lazarus from the dead (John 12).

This alone should show that John--like Matthew and Mark--isn't written in chronological order. What many people fail to see is that all four Gospels only focus on the final Passover of Christ. And this is also because many people don't understand that Christ was supposed to die 5,500 Years from Adam and 483 Years/69 Weeks from the decree of Cyrus the Great as foretold in the Law and the Prophets.
 
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