The days of Noah

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"1) the brethren---the ones that know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night---the brethren that are not in darkness, that that day should overtake them as a thief---the brethren that are the children of light, and the children of the day---the brethren that are not of the night, nor of darkness---the brethren that should not sleep, as others do, but instead should watch and be sober."


You are incorrect David, let me enlighten you ( if I can ) at least I am allowed to show the understanding/explain it.


The ones Apostle Paul wrote to, 2000 years ago, knew perfectly, that the day comes as a thief ( on everybody). The way to escape is told, to be of the day, watching anyway, but you do not consider the other side, that was also told, and very much changes the whole perception, meaning and judgment.



The part you missed now. ( I am telling you this because you said it well enough, but its a bit deeper I guess)


The message is to watch for the ending, because of the one watching also not knowing the time the Lord comes.

The second information is: our Lord comes at the very time as we think not ( meaning when we are also unprepared and caught sleeping)

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.


The wise servant above, continues to give meat in the season of faithlessness on earth, but the warning is also fully understood and accepted, how there will be no faith on earth, I will show that too, in a moment.

But now, the servants on earth right now, remembering that the Son of man retusn at a time they think not and that they are beginning to live wrong.

The Lord not only says He will come in a day when they do not look for Him ( and are of the day watching and being ready) but Christ does do this way, and only comes at the hour all are unaware of ( they have no awareness in them)

They are also rewarded with their portion with the hypocrites.

Matthew 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



Gods word is the living word, all parts speak and give the distinction.

Read, how no man knows the day ( no man can watch) and read and know why that is, because as the days of Noah were, so this day is the same, Noah entered the ark, all other did not escape, He saved only Noah ( and his family allowed with him)..

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;




Here is the understanding, what it means for men to watch, pray and not faint.

God waits ( longsuffers) as recorded in the days of Noah here in 1 Peter 3:20 ( hence why it is the same as the days of Noah to the day of Christ).

Then in 2 Peter 3:4-6 the scoffers deny the coming of the Lord, being ignorant of the account of Noah how the world that was then, was overflowed by water and all perished ( Noah was saved, being the preacher of righteousness bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly, which is this world now too)

1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once THE LONGSUFFERING OF GOD WAITED in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:


Staying on understanding, we account, that this longsuffering of the Lord ( when all are faithless, ungodly and mockers) is when it is salvation ( that is when Noah was saved)...


2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And ACCOUNT THAT THE LONGSUFFERING OF OUR LORD IS SALVATION; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;



Now the part of the unjust judge, who will do judgement.

Then the answer how Gods ( longsuffering) bearing with the cries of His own elect, to be avenged, He answers He will avenge them speedily, but will the Son of man find these faithful on earth when He returns ?


Luke 18:1 And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;
2 Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man:
3 And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.
4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;
5 Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.
6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, THOUGH HE BEAR LONG WITH THEM?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?


Then we open the fifth seal, and we see the souls of them killed for the word of God ( they were killed at the times of the Apostles)

They cry the same thing as Luke 18 records, for God to judge and avenge their blood on all those who dwells on the earth. The message being that their fellowservants needed to have the same fate first for all to be fulfilled.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.



Jesus also tells us, the snare comes on ALL THEM WHO DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH.

I also never met anyone who prayed always to be accounted worthy to stand before the Son of man, which is to escape all of those things on the earth right now, and your testimony tells why, because they all assume they are belonging in the group that is of the day and aware, and there is no such group..



Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
 
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"1) the brethren---the ones that know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night---the brethren that are not in darkness, that that day should overtake them as a thief---the brethren that are the children of light, and the children of the day---the brethren that are not of the night, nor of darkness---the brethren that should not sleep, as others do, but instead should watch and be sober."


You are incorrect David, let me enlighten you ( if I can ) at least I am allowed to show the understanding/explain it.


The ones Apostle Paul wrote to, 2000 years ago, knew perfectly, that the day comes as a thief ( on everybody). The way to escape is told, to be of the day, watching anyway, but you do not consider the other side, that was also told, and very much changes the whole perception, meaning and judgment.



The part you missed now. ( I am telling you this because you said it well enough, but its a bit deeper I guess)


The message is to watch for the ending, because of the one watching also not knowing the time the Lord comes.

The second information is: our Lord comes at the very time as we think not ( meaning when we are also unprepared and caught sleeping)

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.


The wise servant above, continues to give meat in the season of faithlessness on earth, but the warning is also fully understood and accepted, how there will be no faith on earth, I will show that too, in a moment.

But now, the servants on earth right now, remembering that the Son of man retusn at a time they think not and that they are beginning to live wrong.

The Lord not only says He will come in a day when they do not look for Him ( and are of the day watching and being ready) but Christ does do this way, and only comes at the hour all are unaware of ( they have no awareness in them)

They are also rewarded with their portion with the hypocrites.

Matthew 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



Gods word is the living word, all parts speak and give the distinction.

Read, how no man knows the day ( no man can watch) and read and know why that is, because as the days of Noah were, so this day is the same, Noah entered the ark, all other did not escape, He saved only Noah ( and his family allowed with him)..

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;




Here is the understanding, what it means for men to watch, pray and not faint.

God waits ( longsuffers) as recorded in the days of Noah here in 1 Peter 3:20 ( hence why it is the same as the days of Noah to the day of Christ).

Then in 2 Peter 3:4-6 the scoffers deny the coming of the Lord, being ignorant of the account of Noah how the world that was then, was overflowed by water and all perished ( Noah was saved, being the preacher of righteousness bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly, which is this world now too)

1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once THE LONGSUFFERING OF GOD WAITED in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:


Staying on understanding, we account, that this longsuffering of the Lord ( when all are faithless, ungodly and mockers) is when it is salvation ( that is when Noah was saved)...


2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And ACCOUNT THAT THE LONGSUFFERING OF OUR LORD IS SALVATION; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;



Now the part of the unjust judge, who will do judgement.

Then the answer how Gods ( longsuffering) bearing with the cries of His own elect, to be avenged, He answers He will avenge them speedily, but will the Son of man find these faithful on earth when He returns ?


Luke 18:1 And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;
2 Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man:
3 And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.
4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;
5 Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.
6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, THOUGH HE BEAR LONG WITH THEM?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?


Then we open the fifth seal, and we see the souls of them killed for the word of God ( they were killed at the times of the Apostles)

They cry the same thing as Luke 18 records, for God to judge and avenge their blood on all those who dwells on the earth. The message being that their fellowservants needed to have the same fate first for all to be fulfilled.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.



Jesus also tells us, the snare comes on ALL THEM WHO DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH.

I also never met anyone who prayed always to be accounted worthy to stand before the Son of man, which is to escape all of those things on the earth right now, and your testimony tells why, because they all assume they are belonging in the group that is of the day and aware, and there is no such group..



Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
The rapture/resurrection must happen before the Day of the Lord begins. What we don't know is how far before the Day of the Lord begins.

It could be "any time" between right now and then.

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The rapture/resurrection must happen before the Day of the Lord begins. What we don't know is how far before the Day of the Lord begins.

It could be "any time" between right now and then.

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Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

This text doesn't say anything about the wrath of God being involved at the time.

and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ--this is meaning the GT and involves the same wrath satan is seen having when he is cast unto the earth.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Verse 10 involves the wrath of God and that we are told in verse 11 that that time can't come until after their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled---this referring to the GT. The day of the Lord is the wrath of God. The DOTL is not during the AOD, the GT, it is after the AOD. It is during the 6th seal that involves the DOTL. The 6th seal does not precede the first trumpet judgment, though. I know that a lot of people think it does, yet it doesn't. The 6th seal leads to the 7th trumpet not to the first trumpet followed by 6 more trumpets. It is during the 7th trumpet where the DOTL fits. But not if the 7th trumpet is meaning at the beginning of the GT. It fits during the 7th trumpet if meaning after the GT being when the 7th trumpet begins to sound.
 
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I was just listening to our departed brother Chuck Missler. He stated that until we understand Genesis 6 we will not understand the days of Noah.
Most Christians do not want to look too closely at Genesis 6 because of the strange things that were happening there. But we have to know that God did not send the flood because people were eating and drinking and marrying.
 
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"1) the brethren---the ones that know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night---the brethren that are not in darkness, that that day should overtake them as a thief---the brethren that are the children of light, and the children of the day---the brethren that are not of the night, nor of darkness---the brethren that should not sleep, as others do, but instead should watch and be sober."


You are incorrect David, let me enlighten you ( if I can ) at least I am allowed to show the understanding/explain it.


The ones Apostle Paul wrote to, 2000 years ago, knew perfectly, that the day comes as a thief ( on everybody). The way to escape is told, to be of the day, watching anyway, but you do not consider the other side, that was also told, and very much changes the whole perception, meaning and judgment.



The part you missed now. ( I am telling you this because you said it well enough, but its a bit deeper I guess)


The message is to watch for the ending, because of the one watching also not knowing the time the Lord comes.

The second information is: our Lord comes at the very time as we think not ( meaning when we are also unprepared and caught sleeping)

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.


The wise servant above, continues to give meat in the season of faithlessness on earth, but the warning is also fully understood and accepted, how there will be no faith on earth, I will show that too, in a moment.

But now, the servants on earth right now, remembering that the Son of man retusn at a time they think not and that they are beginning to live wrong.

The Lord not only says He will come in a day when they do not look for Him ( and are of the day watching and being ready) but Christ does do this way, and only comes at the hour all are unaware of ( they have no awareness in them)

They are also rewarded with their portion with the hypocrites.

Matthew 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



Gods word is the living word, all parts speak and give the distinction.

Read, how no man knows the day ( no man can watch) and read and know why that is, because as the days of Noah were, so this day is the same, Noah entered the ark, all other did not escape, He saved only Noah ( and his family allowed with him)..

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;




Here is the understanding, what it means for men to watch, pray and not faint.

God waits ( longsuffers) as recorded in the days of Noah here in 1 Peter 3:20 ( hence why it is the same as the days of Noah to the day of Christ).

Then in 2 Peter 3:4-6 the scoffers deny the coming of the Lord, being ignorant of the account of Noah how the world that was then, was overflowed by water and all perished ( Noah was saved, being the preacher of righteousness bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly, which is this world now too)

1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once THE LONGSUFFERING OF GOD WAITED in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:


Staying on understanding, we account, that this longsuffering of the Lord ( when all are faithless, ungodly and mockers) is when it is salvation ( that is when Noah was saved)...


2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And ACCOUNT THAT THE LONGSUFFERING OF OUR LORD IS SALVATION; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;



Now the part of the unjust judge, who will do judgement.

Then the answer how Gods ( longsuffering) bearing with the cries of His own elect, to be avenged, He answers He will avenge them speedily, but will the Son of man find these faithful on earth when He returns ?


Luke 18:1 And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;
2 Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man:
3 And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.
4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;
5 Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.
6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, THOUGH HE BEAR LONG WITH THEM?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?


Then we open the fifth seal, and we see the souls of them killed for the word of God ( they were killed at the times of the Apostles)

They cry the same thing as Luke 18 records, for God to judge and avenge their blood on all those who dwells on the earth. The message being that their fellowservants needed to have the same fate first for all to be fulfilled.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.



Jesus also tells us, the snare comes on ALL THEM WHO DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH.

I also never met anyone who prayed always to be accounted worthy to stand before the Son of man, which is to escape all of those things on the earth right now, and your testimony tells why, because they all assume they are belonging in the group that is of the day and aware, and there is no such group..



Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.


I'm not seeing where we where are that far apart here. Granted, we are not seeing everything the same, yet we are seeing a lot of it close to the same. IOW, a lot of what you brought up that I didn't bring up, a lot of that I don't disagree with you about.

As to watching, meaning how I was meaning it, that does not mean one can then know exactly what day and hour the Lord will return. It just means by being watchful of His return one is prepared when He does return because by being watchful one is doing good things in the earth when He returns rather than doing evil things in the earth when He returns.
 
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I was just listening to our departed brother Chuck Missler. He stated that until we understand Genesis 6 we will not understand the days of Noah.
Most Christians do not want to look too closely at Genesis 6 because of the strange things that were happening there. But we have to know that God did not send the flood because people were eating and drinking and marrying.


Chuck Missler is someone I have heard of, yet not anyone I ever bothered listening much to. I had no idea he was dead, though. I don't really know for certain what he meant by understanding Genesis 6 first, since I never watched the video, but if I were to take a guess though, I'm betting it has to do with him concluding fallen angels literally mated with earth women and then produced fallen angel offspring as a result.
 
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Chuck Missler is someone I have heard of, yet not anyone I ever bothered listening much to. I had no idea he was dead, though. I don't really know for certain what he meant by understanding Genesis 6 first, since I never watched the video, but if I were to take a guess though, I'm betting it has to do with him concluding fallen angels literally mated with earth women and then produced fallen angel offspring as a result.
You should look him up. He died back in 2018.You can find his sermons on Youtube still.
 
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Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

This text doesn't say anything about the wrath of God being involved at the time.
Revelation 12 is not all inclusive in saying everything that takes place in the 7 year 70th week. And doesn't explain everything.

The verses you quoted is basically the second half of the 70th week, and the Day of the Lord will have already begun.

What begins the Day of the Lord is the Antichrist going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood, revealing himself as the man of sin and not the messiah after all.

Leading up to that point, the world will be saying "peace and safety" because it will be thinking it has entered the messianic age, with the Antichrist being the (thought-to-be) messiah.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Verse 10 involves the wrath of God and that we are told in verse 11 that that time can't come until after their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled---this referring to the GT.
verse 10 involves the wrath of the lamb - Jesus. Because the martyres are killed because of their testimony of Jesus.

The day of the Lord is the wrath of God.
The (beginning years of) Day of the Lord is the period when the wrath of God is poured out. That period begins with the Antichrist's act in 2Thesslaonians2:4 and ends when Jesus returns.

The Day of the Lord in its fullness last for eternity and has no end.

The DOTL is not during the AOD, the GT, it is after the AOD.

The Day of the Lord (the period of it when God's wrath is poured out) begins with the Transgression of Desolation act by the Antichrist. Then after he is killed and brought back to life as the beast and image of of him, and placed in temple mount courtyard, the Abomination of Desolation, the great tribulation begins. And lasts 1335 days until the day Jesus returns.

Communicating this sequence of events can be confusing because there is so much involved. A chart helps.

On my Anytime Rapture View chart, I show the sequence. The ToD act triggers the beginning of the Day of the Lord. The AoD shortly follows. And the great tribulation begins. Ending with Jesus's second coming.

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It is during the 6th seal that involves the DOTL.
The sixth seal event is within the Day of the Lord. It signals the imminence of the wrath of the Lamb on them responsible for the martyring of the great tribulation saint. Terrifying the wicked.

The 6th seal does not precede the first trumpet judgment, though. I know that a lot of people think it does, yet it doesn't. The 6th seal leads to the 7th trumpet not to the first trumpet followed by 6 more trumpets.
The trumpets have all sounded by the time of the sixth seal event. What is left is the assembly of the armies of the kings of the earth to make war on Jesus. And the final bowl of God's wrath to be poured out on the earth, the great global earthquake and crushing hail.

And then Jesus descending to earth with His armies of heaven and the saints.

It is during the 7th trumpet where the DOTL fits. But not if the 7th trumpet is meaning at the beginning of the GT. It fits during the 7th trumpet if meaning after the GT being when the 7th trumpet begins to sound.
David, I think it would be beneficial to you to work on a chart of events of the 70th week, with pencil and paper if need be.

The 7th trumpet fits with the beginning years of the Day of the Lord - the period of it when God's wrath is poured out. The Day of the Lord in its fullness, lasts for eternity and has no end.

The thing to keep in mind is Revelation 6-19 is how God is going to end this sordid existence that man is in. And has been in since the fall in the garden of end. With that in mind, it will draw God's love closer in one's heart and be all for God.
 
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Doug: "The rapture/resurrection must happen before the Day of the Lord begins. What we don't know is how far before the Day of the Lord begins.

It could be "any time" between right now and then."




Why remain ignorant of the fact that the thousand years is as a day to the Lord.



2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.



You might wonder what that day is ?

2 Corinthians 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.


So it is the day of salvation= the 1000 years they reign with the Lord on judgement day ( reigning and not dying as the rest to remain dead) as that reign, also does not ever run out, and the devil cast down is also at the time salvation came by Christ rising from the dead to reign and to destroy the devil who ahd the power over death..

Hebrews 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Romans 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

1 Corinthians 15 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.


Sin reigned unto death, the devil reigning ovr man, now the devil wads defeated, and death swallowed up in victory, we reign through grace unto life ( that is the thousand years and that is the day of salvation)..

Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
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"As to watching, meaning how I was meaning it, that does not mean one can then know exactly what day and hour the Lord will return. It just means by being watchful of His return one is prepared when He does return because by being watchful one is doing good things in the earth when He returns rather than doing evil things in the earth when He returns."


Sounds so simple when you put it like that, to be watchful of His return, to be doing good rather than evil.

Now, remembering and not forgetting the verses we are given, and as I showed some, for the snare on all the earth, for all on the earth to be tempted.

Yes that same message of course continues, it cant be gotten away from.

5, out of the 7 messages to the 7 churches, are rebuke, of the earth who consider they are followers of Christ, are not being WATCHFUL, having no preparation for overcoming this world ( due to assuming they are already overcoming, and of course that is why these 5 rebukes to the churches, cant be VERY IMPORTANT, to FEAR).

The requirement of watching is testified below, it is for those good works as you have mentioned, to be found PERFECT BEFORE GOD.

Christ repeats for us, of the day coming unawares to us, ( which if you remember as told for you, is the hour when we do not EXPECT)..



Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and DO THE FIRST WORKS, OR ELSE I WILL COME UNTO THEE QUICKLY ( WHEN WE ARE UNAWARE, AT AN HOUR WE THINK NOT), and WILL REMOVE THY CANDLESTICK OUT OF HIS PLACE, (ALL WRONGLY ASSUMING THEY HAD A SECURED PLACE/SAVED) except thou repent.
6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revalation 2:16 REPENT, OR ELSE I WILL COME UNTO THEE QUICKLY, ( WHEN WE ARE UNAWARE, AT AN HOUR WE THINK NOT)and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Revelation 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know THY WORKS, THAT THOU HAST A NAME THAT THOU LIVEST, AND ART DEAD. ( ALL ON EARTH ASSUMING THEY ARE SAVED WHEN THEY ARE NOT.)
2 BE WATCHFUL AND STRENGTHEN THE THINGS WHICH REMAIN, THAT ARE READY TO DIE: FOR I HAVE NOT FOUND THY WORKS PERFECT BEFORE GOD.
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. IF THEREFORE THOU SHALT NOT WATCH, I WILL COME ON THEE AS A THIEF, AND THOU SHALT NOT KNOW WHAT HOUR I WILL COME UPON THEE.
4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have NOT DEFILED THEIR GARMENTS; and they shall walk with me in white: FOR THEY ARE WORTHY.
5 HE THAT OVERCOMETH, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I WILL NOT BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. ( Revelation 13:8 ALL THAT DWELL UPON THE EARTH SHALL WORSHIP THE BEAST WHOSE NAMES ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE OF THE LAMB BY NOT FEARING AND PRAYING TO BE WORTHY, BY BEING DEFILED, BY NOT HAVING FERVENT CHARITY)

Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then BECAUSE THOU ART LUKEWARM, and neither cold nor hot, I WILL SPUE THEE OUT OF MY MOUTH.
17 BECAUSE THOU SAYEST I AM RICH, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; AND KNOWEST NOT THAT THOU ART WRETCHED, AND MISERABLE, AND POOR, AND BLIND, AND NAKED:
18 I COUNSEL THEE TO BUY OF ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: BE ZEALOUS THEREFORE AND REPENT.
20 BEHOLD I STAND AT THE DOOR AND KNOCK: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.


Now there are three choices to your two David, the ones of darkness never can be ready, the ones of "light" ( but assuming they are of light and ready) and thirdly, the ones who fear and realize, all are worshipping the beast, as the WHOLE WORLD IS DECEIVED...

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, WHICH DECEIVETH THE WHOLE WORLD: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.




Why else does Jesus say, I say to all watch, if the message is just for them to watch and all is OK?

It is not just that told, it is told ( and you are against this part so far) that He comes suddenly when we are unaware and that is what finds us sleeping..



Mark 13:36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Mark 13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Matthew 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.




Pray always to be accounted worthy, IS WATCHING, maybe you can see how that is told.


This is HOW, YOU BE SOBER, AND WATCH, by that praying, and by having sincere charity in our heart ( charity seeketh not her own)..


Luke 21:36 WATCH YE THEREFORE, AND PRAY ALWAYS, THAT YE MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS THAT SHALL COME TO PASS, AND TO STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN.

Luke 21:35 FOR AS A SNARE SHALL IT COME ON ALL THEM THAT DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH.

1 Peter 4:7 But THE END OF ALL THINGS IS AT HAND: be ye therefore SOBER, AND WATCH UNTO PRAYER.
8 And ABOVE ALL THESE THINGS HAVE FERVENT CHARITY AMONG YOURSELVES: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

1 Corinthians 13:5 (CHARITY) Doth not behave itself unseemly, SEEKETH NOT HER OWN, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
 
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Our Lord Jesus said that the day and hour of His second coming, no one knows, except our Father in heaven. But He gave a parallel to His second coming, which will be like the days of Noah. The people in Noah’s time probably knew that a flood is coming because Noah had been warning them, but they did not know that it is in their times. The bible says they had been eating, drinking and marrying, until Noah entered the ark. The sad ending was that the flood came and took them all away (Matt 24: 36-39)....To read more The Days Of Noah

Dear BrideForChrist,
In Matthew 24, Christ is teaching us the pathway to salvation the Elect will travel. These verses quoted below apply to the time when an Elect person receives the Baptism of the Spirit/Latter Rain of the Spirit and is when a new child of God is born.

Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

The concept of there being just "one Elect person" in the story of Noah and the story of "two in the field" is a little difficult to understand. But understanding it is necessary, otherwise the spiritual message will remain hidden. I'll explain it the best I can.

The story of Noah is a "type" for the Latter Rain. Noah, his wife and his 3 sons/3 wives, represent HALF of an Elect person. That half is a child of God who is waiting to be born. We know the family represents the child of God because the total number of the family is "eight". The number "eight" is a spiritual term that represents a new spiritual state. In Mat 12:43-45, that change for the Elect person was for the worse. But in the story of Noah, that change for the Elect person is for the better.

The people remaining in the world outside the Ark represent the other HALF of an Elect person. That half is the Man of Sin who has "eight" evil spirits within them (Mat 12:43-45).

To sum up, Noah and his family (child of God) and those in the world (Man of Sin) represent one Elect person. Both come to be within an Elect person after the Early Rain (we serve two masters). This is the same concept taught later in the verses above about there being "two in the field". It is also the same concept used in the parable of the Wheat and the Tares.

When the Latter Rain falls on an Elect believer, Christ will come to them suddenly, just as suddenly as when the rain (types the Latter Rain) began to fall on the one Elect person in the Noah story. The Elect believer in the Noah story is going about business as normal. This is similar to what Paul taught in 1Thes 5:3. The Elect believer there is dwelling in "peace and safety". Both are unknowingly about to experience the second coming of Christ with the Latter Rain.

Once Noah's rain falls, the Man of Sin is drowned (destroyed) but the child of God is safely sealed in the ark. This is conversion.

Peter and Paul both referred to this event as when Christ comes to us as a thief in the night. It is the same Latter Rain event that is being taught in Matthew 24.

In verse 40, another similar example is given to us by TWO people who are working in the field. The same concept of there just being ONE Elect person applies here as well.

The number "two" spiritually represents a "witness of Christ", it does not mean a numeral two. A "witness of Christ" is one of Christ's Elect.

The Elect person is shown to be "working" in the field because they are still approaching Christ by their own "works". They are no different than those who have also been called but not chosen. When Christ appears to the Elect person in the field, "one is taken" (Man of Sin, Tares) and "one is left" (child of God, Wheat). The "one left" is NOT represented on the Seven Headed Beast because they are a child of God. The "one taken" is a part of the Beast and is represented by the head that has the deadly head wound. The "one taken" is destroyed and will never exist again. The father of the "one taken" (Satan) has lost one of his children. The Father (God) of the "one left" has just birthed a new child who will live forever and grow to know and love Him.

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"The people remaining in the world outside the Ark represent the other HALF of an Elect person. That half is the Man of Sin who has "eight" evil spirits within them (Mat 12:43-45)."

"Once Noah's rain falls, the Man of Sin is drowned (destroyed) but the child of God is safely sealed in the ark. This is conversion."




Now, learn with me from scripture.

Unfortunately, the man oi sin was not drowned, neither the people outside the ark representing the man of sin.

This is immediately demonstrated by God for us when the flood went away, by Canaan, who shows disobedience, sin and is cursed ( as the serpent is cursed and it is the serpents seed seen surviving of course)


Genesis 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.



"The story of Noah is a "type" for the Latter Rain. Noah, his wife and his 3 sons/3 wives, represent HALF of an Elect person. That half is a child of God who is waiting to be born. We know the family represents the child of God because the total number of the family is "eight". "



Next, we see the family cannot be Noah and sons and wives as any person at all, because God again testifies for us directly ( His word and testimony is greater than mans) how Noah can deliver but his own soul, and cannot delivder son nor daughter.



Ezekiel 14:14 Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord God.


Ezekiel 14:20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.



Every knee bends to God separately for judgement day:



Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.




"That half is the Man of Sin who has "eight" evil spirits within them (Mat 12:43-45).""



Men at the time of Jesus contained the evil spirits, but as Zechariah prophesied, the idols are cut off, as are the false prophet/teachers and the unclean spirit passes out of the land ( seen in the legion running down perishing in the water)

Jesus casts out those possessed with the devil, as only then, the Kingdom of God was come to Israel, and Jesus did cures today, and tomorrow, and rose on the third day perfected for us to trust in.



Zechariah 13:2 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.

Matthew 8:32 And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.

Luke 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.




Now, here it is, after Jesus casts out those possessed with evil spirits, is retold how they escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, but are overcome again, and it is now worse for them, better that they had never known the way of righteousness, better that man had not had the evil spirits taken out of the house they lived in, which is in the man, and the man was cleaned, empty and swept, but decided to return to his vomit and the latter end, OF THAT MAN, is worse then, and so it is for all the wicked generation, who reject the good Jesus came to do for them..



Matthew 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.





"Peter and Paul both referred to this event as when Christ comes to us as a thief in the night. It is the same Latter Rain event that is being taught in Matthew 24.

In verse 40, another similar example is given to us by TWO people who are working in the field. The same concept of there just being ONE Elect person applies here as well.

The number "two" spiritually represents a "witness of Christ", it does not mean a numeral two. A "witness of Christ" is one of Christ's Elect.

The Elect person is shown to be "working" in the field because they are still approaching Christ by their own "works". They are no different than those who have also been called but not chosen. When Christ appears to the Elect person in the field, "one is taken" (Man of Sin, Tares) and "one is left" (child of God, Wheat)."




The question is then, is two , meaning two ?

Luke 12, records the same event, but this time, it is described as the division Christ gave on earth, three against two, and two against three.

The father against the son, and the son against the father, this is two divided, and one took, and one left.

The mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother, again is the division, of one being left, and one being took.

The mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. Is the final example of it so far describing two, as two, it is as told and no need for interpretation, or for anything other than what is told plainly, simply and straight forwardly.



Matthew 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Luke 12:35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.

Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.




Here is the other example yet again, of the Lords return, and the division of people, half be prepared, and half be unprepared, and as always, the Son of man comes at an hour you are unaware, so nobody prays to be worthy and to stand before the Son of man..


Matthew 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
 
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What begins the Day of the Lord is the Antichrist going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood, revealing himself as the man of sin and not the messiah after all.
The Day of the Lord begins when the Lord is present and on earth and sets up the throne and Temple, Himself. It starts at the 6th Seal when it says the face of the One sitting on the throne.

It is only in the midst of the sounding of the 7th Trumpet, that Satan and the FP are allowed access to the Temple and throne. But this access is after the GT of the Trumpets and Thunders.

The trumpets have all sounded by the time of the sixth seal event. What is left is the assembly of the armies of the kings of the earth to make war on Jesus. And the final bowl of God's wrath to be poured out on the earth, the great global earthquake and crushing hail.

The angels do not sound the Trumpets until after they come to earth at the 6th Seal. The 6th Seal is opened before the 7th Seal. Only after the 7th Seal will the sounds happen.
 
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"The Day of the Lord begins when the Lord is present and on earth and sets up the throne and Temple, Himself. It starts at the 6th Seal when it says the face of the One sitting on the throne."




We cannot interpret the prophecies, the verses speak for us, and all we can do is speak against them, or not speak at all..


2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.


Here are the verses mentioned, and the question we need answering, is, who can stand against the great day of the wrath of the Lamb?


Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?





Well here then are some information for us, the devil stands against the Prince of princes but is broken..


Daniel 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.



Jesus the Messiah fed in the strength of the Lord, and stands that way, His feet stand that day upon the mount of olives, as He did do....


Micah 5:4 And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the Lord, in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.

Malachi 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

John 8:1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.



Jesus describes how when satan is not divided, he can stand, and how Christ casts out satans standing by the fnger of God..



Matthew 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Luke 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.



On earth it is described simply to know it is NOW, that people live carelessly and selfishly, as there is gain on earth, so all are , happy, exalted and unaware.

Michael our Prince, stands up at this time now, of trouble, as men are lovers of their own selves and pleasures NOW..




Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.



Now we are told, satan stands against Christ, and Christ breaks Him by casting out satan and by destroying him that had the power over death ( Christ won the victory for us to believe in not see)

Who shall stand, as satan does not stand, so here is who stands, the ones with faith and grace, standing by faith to not be highminded, to take heed lest we fall and not think we stand as satan thought it stands, we stand by the Gospel preached, to keep in memory and not forget and be in vain, watching standing fast in the faith, by faith we stand, standing fast to not be entangled in the bondages of sin any more, but putting on the ARMOUR OF GOD TO STAND AGAINST THESE WILES OF THE DEVIL AND FALSE PROPHET/TEACHERS DECEPTIONS WE ARE WARNED ABOUT..



Romans 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

1 Corinthians 15:Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1 Corinthians 16:13 Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.

2 Corinthians 1:24 Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.




This is the spiritual wickedness, we withstand in the evil day, not by private non helpful interpretations of the false prophets, but by taking this armour of God now,standing with truth, righteousness, peace, faith to stop all wicked seducers,with the sword of the Spirit, praying to be accounted worthy to escape the temptation of this life NOW..




Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;



This is every word on standing, if you have even one, please do say.

We stand perfect when we are complete in all the will of God.

We live if we stand fast in the Lord, this is the true grace of God by which we stand.

So finally, they who get the victory over the mark of the beast stand, here I can tell you what the mark of the beast in the hand is, it is the deceived, who do not know a lie is in their right hand...



Colossians 4:12 Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God.

1 Thessalonians 3:8 For now we live, if ye stand fast in the Lord.

1 Peter 5:12 By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Isaiah 44:20 He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand?
 
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Douggg: "Jesus is in the third heaven at the time of the sixth seal not yet descended to earth. The second heaven (the comos) will depart as a scroll when it is rolled up."

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;


Gods judgement came to earth, that is the same as the Heavens departing as a scroll, as Jesus fulfilled all.

The judgement:


John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Isaiah 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.



They say to the mountains COVER US.

But dont you want to see, it is because the word of God says to us, sow to ourselves in righteousness, and the new testament fulfils that, seed to the sower and multiplies our seed sown, and the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace..



Hosea 10:8 The high places also of Aven, the sin of Israel, shall be destroyed: the thorn and the thistle shall come up on their altars; and they shall say to the mountains, Cover us; and to the hills, Fall on us.
9 O Israel, thou hast sinned from the days of Gibeah: there they stood: the battle in Gibeah against the children of iniquity did not overtake them.
10 It is in my desire that I should chastise them; and the people shall be gathered against them, when they shall bind themselves in their two furrows.
11 And Ephraim is as an heifer that is taught, and loveth to tread out the corn; but I passed over upon her fair neck: I will make Ephraim to ride; Judah shall plow, and Jacob shall break his clods.
12 Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the Lord, till he come and rain righteousness upon you.

2 Corinthians 9:10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)

James 3:18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.


Raining righteousness upon us/ shining in our heart, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God by the shining face of Jesus Christ, and shedding abroad the love of God in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us..


2 Corinthians 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Romans 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.



Here is the gog and magog, and all shaking at the presence of the Lord, who came to earth and gave judgement on Israel..

Ezekiel 38:18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face.
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.


The mountains brought low, the valleys filled, all seeing the salvation of God, and then, being hated for the testimony of Christ, and then they are the worst days ever now, and the number one thing, repeated constantly by Jesus is, the false prophets began to speak their private interpretations, that false prophets can only speak, about things in the future and not what we have already of the Gospel of Christ for our preparation and standing..



Luke 3:5 Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth;
6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:
16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.
17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.
19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
 
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Two thrones. The GWT and the one in Jerusalem. God the Father and Jesus Christ make up the Lord God. The GWT is already here and global. It has been here since creation. It will be fully seen when heaven is rolled back and the veil of spiritual blindness is gone.

John does not tell us where Jesus is at the Second Coming. That He is on earth to set up His throne and Temple is the fulfillment of prophecy. Humans cannot build the temple and throne. No where in Scripture is there a 7 year peace treaty and Temple set up. No one knows how long the GT is, because the longer God holds back the Second Coming, the shorter the GT becomes.

The feet touching down on the Mt. of Olives ends the war against Jerusalem. It is also the preparation of Christ setting up the Temple and throne. Matthew 25:31 is Christ sitting on that throne in the Temple in Jerusalem.
 
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"Jesus is in the third heaven at the time of the sixth seal not yet descended to earth."

Then we also read how thew Lord does not descend to the earth again, we knew Him after the flesh, now no more He is the Spirit of Christ, sitting on the throne of God and the Lamb, one and same.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.


The Lord descends not to earth, just from Heaven, and our meeting is not on earth but in the clouds/new Heavens new earth created..

1 Thessalonian 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


That is the resurrection, one of the just and one of the unjust, and for the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, He is the King of kings and the ONE LORD, ONLY HE HAS IMMORTALITY, NO MAN CAN APPROACH TO HIS LIGHT NO MAN CAN SEE OR HAS SEEN, this is the mystery, we be changed to be in the same dwelling light, that is the only time, when the one resurrection of the just and unjust occurs and we shall all be changed..


1 Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
 
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Unfortunately, the man oi sin was not drowned, neither the people outside the ark representing the man of sin.

Dear prophecy uk,
The events which happened in the Old Testament are "types" for what happens to us spiritually in this age. The "days of Noah" is one of those types. It must be spiritually understood in order to learn what it teaches. What it teaches is one of the steps we must take on the pathway to salvation.

The pathway to salvation is 100% the work of Christ. He causes all of His Elect (First-Fruits) to travel that pathway from start to finish before they physically die. Those who are only "called out" but not chosen, will only partially travel the pathway in this age and they will die in their sins.

I'll explain below:
The pathway starts for an unbeliever when Christ comes to them and "calls" them out. This event is called the Early Rain of the Spirit. It is the same baptism that Paul received on the Damascus Road when He first called Jesus "Lord". However, Christ leaves us spiritually blind after the Early Rain (typed by Paul blindness) which makes us unable to receive the truth of Christ. Satan then quickly comes to us and deceives us. He masquerades as an angel of light and causes us to approach Christ by a mixture of "works" and "faith". Since we "can't serve two masters", this sin leads to our spiritual death. We fall away and lose our salvation.

Because of Satan deceptions, we become "worse than before". Paul calls this worsen spiritual state a Man of Sin. We remain in this fallen away condition until we either physically die or Christ comes to us a second time with the Latter Rain of the Spirit.

The Latter Rain is the Baptism of the Spirit and is what Paul received after being in Damascus for three days. This event is also called the second coming of Christ and it will start the Day of the Lord. These are spiritual events and they happen within a believer.

The Man of Sin is not just one person who will appear in the world near the end of this age. The Man of Sin is the worsen spiritual state that everyone experiences after receiving the Early Rain and Satan's deceptions. It is this Man of Sin who must be destroyed because He approaches Christ by "works".

The people of the world during Noah's day represent the Man of Sin who is "within" a fallen away believer.

Here is how to understand Mat 12:43-45:

Mat 12:43-45 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation

Evil spirits represent Satan's false truth. Since we remain spiritually blind after receiving the Early Rain, we cannot replace our worldly false beliefs with God's truth. One "evil spirit" leaves but comes back with seven more since our house remains void of God's truth. Now, instead of "one evil spirit" within us, we now have EIGHT. The number eight spiritually represents a new spiritual condition. Our new spiritual condition is "worse than the first". Paul calls this worsened spiritual condition the Man of Sin.

After the new believer devolves into a Man of Sin, their deadly head wound that came from the sword of Christ at the time of the Early Rain is healed. The blow by the Sword of Christ was intended to slay our carnal nature (Old man) but because of our spiritual blindness and Satan’s deceptions, the wound is healed and our Old Man continues to live.

Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

As a result, we are still represented by Seven-Headed Beast of Revelation.

In case you are unaware, the Beast is a symbol for mankind in our spiritually flawed and carnally minded condition. After our deadly head wound is healed, we have "fallen away" and become a Man of Sin who follows the ways of Satan instead of Christ. This is the one and only sin (works) that leads to our spiritual death (1John 5:16). From this death, we cannot be renewed by repentance.

Heb 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

The Doctrine of Free Will is the most common belief that causes us to "fall away". We use this false belief system to justify why unbelievers are worthy of "hell" and why we are not. We falsely believe that we are wiser or smarter or simply less evil than those who reject Christ. And because of this belief, we take credit for making the right "choice" to accept Christ. But in truth, the credit is not ours. It was Christ's work within us that caused us to accept Him as "Lord". In our spiritually flawed and carnally minded condition we have from birth, no man will even seek to know God (Rom 3:10-11, Rom 8:7), much less accept Him as Lord.

Scripture clearly says that unless Christ gives us the Holy Spirit, we cannot call Him Lord.

1 Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.

Only after Christ comes to us and gives us the Early Rain of the Spirit can we call Christ “Lord”. Paul’s Damascus Road experience is the “pattern” (type) whereby we all must follow in order to be “called out from the world”. Christ came to Paul on the Damascus Road, uninvited by Paul, and gave Paul the Early Rain. Paul had no choice in the matter as to whether to accept the Spirit or to reject the Spirit. The Spirit was given to Him and after it was, Paul fell to his knees and called Christ “Lord”. I will explain this “pattern” of Paul’s conversion later in this paper.

Now that a Called Out believer has “fallen away” and is no longer saved, Christ must come to them a second time with the Latter Rain or they will die in their sins and receive their “portion” with the unbelievers. If the Called Out believer is one of the “few” and has been chosen from the foundation of the world, Christ will come to them again. And when He comes, He brings salvation with Him.

Heb 9:28 So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Just a quick note on this verse: Christ “appeared” the first time in the flesh and took away the sins of the world on the cross. When He comes to an unbeliever with the Early Rain, He does not “appear” to them but remains hidden from their understanding. The Early Rain event is not an “appearance”, it is a visitation. When Christ comes to a Called Out believer with the Latter Rain, He does “appear” to them at this time. When He comes, He fully heals their spiritual blindness and the Light of His appearing will destroy the Man of Sin whom they have become. It is at this point, the new child of God is born.

Here is the correct understanding of the Parable of the Ten Virgins which you quoted:

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto TEN virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in flasks with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

The parable begins by showing us Ten Virgins. The term “Virgins” symbolizes all believers who have been “Called out from the world” (the church). All ten virgins have received the Early Rain of the Spirit at this point but not the Latter Rain. The number TEN represents the completeness of their carnality. They have all been made “worse than before”.

The Lamp in verse 1 represents the Word of God (Christ/Truth) and the “Oil” with which it is filled represents the Holy Spirit. This original filling of Oil represents the Early Rain of the Spirit within the “called out” believer. The Light that the Lamp gives off is “truth” which lights the pathway to Christ.

Psa 119:105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

This “truth” that lights the way to Christ is the Old Covenant of Law.

Mat 25:2 And FIVE of them were Wise, and FIVE were Foolish.

The parable continues with two additional symbols: FIVE Wise Virgins and FIVE Foolish Virgins. The number FIVE is a symbol for how we relate to God. Those two ways are by “works” (Old Covenant of Law) or by “faith” (New Covenant of Grace through Faith).

The FIVE Foolish Virgins represent those who have been Called Out but are not chosen to be saints. They approach Christ by “works”. They will remain under the Law until their physical deaths.

The FIVE Wise Virgins represent those who have been Called Out and Chosen to be saints. They will for a time approach Christ by “works” alongside the Called Out believers but they will eventually change their approach to “Grace through Faith”.

Mat 25:3-5 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4 But the wise took oil in flasks with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

While the Ten Virgins wait for the Bridegroom to come a second time (the first time was when the betrothal was made/Early Rain), they all slumber & sleep and do not keep watch. The symbol “slumbered and slept” represents the time when we are spiritually blind and are spiritually dead. At this time, the Wise Virgins are no different from the Foolish Virgins. They too, are in a worsened spiritual state (Man of Sin) and still carry the Lamp that gives off the light of the Old Covenant of Law.

However, verse 4 lets us know that the Wise Virgins are those who are also chosen to be saints because they carry an extra flask of Oil.

Mat 25:6-9 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

At midnight, the deepest part of our spiritual darkness when we are a Man of Sin, the call goes out to announce the Bridegroom’s approach. This is the same call that was made by John the Baptist to the Nation of Israel and later by the Apostle John to “Called Out” Christian believers. It is a call to repent from the Works of the Law so as to prepare the way for us to receive Christ and the New Covenant.

When both the Wise Virgins and the Foolish Virgins hear “the voice of one crying in the wilderness(Luke 3:4) and “come out of her my people” (Rev 18:4), it tells them the Bridegroom is coming. They all awake from their slumber and trim their Lamps. As they do, the Lamps begin to go out. A second filling of Oil is needed. For the 5 wise Virgins, since they brought a second filling of Oil, they receive the Latter Rain of the Spirit and go out to meet Christ. They follow the light from the New Covenant of Grace through Faith. But because the 5 Foolish Virgins do not have a second filling of Oil, they are forced to “turn back” from whence they came. They will remain under Law.

This time of turning back is symbolized by Lot’s wife who turned back.

Luke 17:31-32 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. 32 Remember Lot's wife.

It is also shown to us in John 6:66 when some of the Christ’s disciples turned away from following Him after responding to the cry of John the Baptist.

John 6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

The 5 Foolish Virgins cannot continue on to meet the Bridegroom because they did not receive a second filling of Oil for their Lamps. This New Oil symbolizes the Latter Rain of the Holy Spirit which would have lighted their way to walk by the New Covenant of Grace through Faith. The 5 Foolish Virgins simply were not Chosen from the foundation of the world and had no choice but to remain under Law. Because they never became the wife of Christ, a new child of God was never produced. As a result, they remained under Law and were not saved.

Mat 25:10-12 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. 11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

The Foolish Virgins will later find that their portion is with the unbelievers. This event occurs at their resurrection to judgment when Christ finally appears to them:

Luke 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

The Foolish Virgins will not be blessed to be in Christ’s harvest of First Fruits and they will be resurrected to judgment with the unbelievers. They will receive their portion at the end of the final age when the great harvest of mankind occurs. They will not have life in the Kingdom of Heaven during the ages. They will only be given life at the end of the ages.

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.'

When the Great Day of the Harvest (Feast of Tabernacles) finally arrives, Christ will deliver up the Kingdom of Heaven to the Father which now contains “all” who died in Adam.

1 Cor 15:20-28 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the consummation, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Christ’s reign will come to an end because He accomplished all that the Father gave Him to do, which was:

1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

All "End-time" prophecy is teaching on the pathway to salvation. Those prophecies are fulfilled "within" all of Christ's Elect. They are the ones who "keep the sayings of the prophecies in this book" (Rev 22:7). They are blessed.

Joe
 
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TimToFly: "The GWT is already here and global. It has been here since creation. It will be fully seen when heaven is rolled back and the veil of spiritual blindness is gone."


Regarding what Gods word, you know the bible, says about the vail:


The vail is taken away when turned to the Lord, the vail does not blind anyone turned to the Lord, the Gentiles,

The vail is His flesh, given to us to draw near with seeing our High Priest.

Now the partition is broken down, all was and is seen, through His flesh..



2 Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.


Hebrews 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.


Ephesians 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:



TimToFly: "Matthew 25:31 is Christ sitting on that throne in the Temple in Jerusalem."



Not quite, the angels gather out of the Kingdom all who work iniquity, then the righteous can shine forth( in the new heavens and earth wherein dwells righteousness)

It is the angels severing the wicked from among the just..



Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Matthew 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.



ALSO, the angels gather the elect from the earth, and this is Christ sitting on the throne of His glory, this is the sevefing, it is already done ( from Heaven)..



Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:


2 Peter 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.



This is the throne of God and of the Lamb, they see His face ONLY WHEN CHANGED, WHICH ALSO TESTIFIES MEETS THE LORD IN THE AIR THEY ALSO REIGN FOR EVER AND EVER NOT LIMITED TO A THOUSAND YEARS SORRY, AS THE THOUSAND YEARS IS ONE DAY WITH THE LORD AND IT IS THE DSAY OF HIS JUDGEMENT AND SALVATION..

Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 
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