Louis Farrakhan on Jesus at the Million Man March

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We got a right to question God. That’s the only way we can become wise. And if we question him like Job did, God may bring you up into his own thinking.

And if God were to answer us today he would say to Black people, yes, I allowed this to happen. And I know you suffered, but Martin King, my servant, said it, undeserved suffering is redemptive...

He said, Black Man, I love you. He said, but God, I mean, that’s a heck of a way to show me you love me. He said, but I love my son.

I love Jesus more than I love any of my servants. But I had a cross for him. I had nails for him. I had him to be rejected and despised. I had him falsely accused and brought before the courts of men. I had them spit on him. I had them to pierce his side. But, I loved him more than anybody else. Why, God?! Why did you do it? Why?

He said, I did it that I might be glorified, because like Job, no matter what I did to him, he never cursed me, he never said my God ain’t no good. He said whatever your will is, that’s what I want to do and that’s why, even though he descended into Hell, I have raised him to the limitless heights of Heaven, because only those who know the depths of Hell can appreciate the limitless heights of Heaven.

And so, my children, I caused you to suffer in the furnace of affliction so that I might purify you and resurrect you from a grave of death and ignorance. I, God, put in your soul, not a law written on stone, but I have written the law on the tablets of your heart.
Farrakhan, "Million Man March," Speech Text - Voices of Democracy

The Million Man March was an event for people of all faiths:
On October 16, 1995 more than a million Black men gather at the nation’s Capitol Hill and Mall in Washington DC...

Christians, Muslims, Black Nationalists along with those with no religious or organizational affiliation were in attendance. It was billed as a March for justice in response to the spiritual, political and economic warfare that targeted Black people and Black men in particular.

The gathering addressed mass incarceration and called for “Stop the Killing” and gang violence. There were young and old Black men standing shoulder to shoulder in the crowd. There were a sea of Black men and no violence was recorded, according the Final Call newspaper.

There were speeches by Civil Right leaders and politicians. Even though the call was made for men only, prominent Black women were on the stage in support of the march. Dr. Betty Shabazz, Malcolm X’s wife, Maya Angelou and Rosa Parks along with many others...

After the historical day many Black men returned home and joined social reform organizations or started businesses...

The event sparked the Million Women March and the Million Family March.
1995’s The Million Man March in Washington, D.C.

“Allah” is the Arabic word for God, used both in the Koran and in Arabic translations of the Bible:

Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word “Allah” to mean “God”.[10] The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for “God” than “Allah”.[32]…
Mainstream Bible translations in the language use Allah as the translation of Hebrew Elohim (translated in English Bibles as “God”).[77]
Allah - Wikipedia

While there is indeed violence in the Koran, there’s more violence in the Bible:

An analysis into whether the Quran is more violent than the Bible found killing and destruction occur more frequently in the Christian texts than the Islamic.
Investigating whether the Quran really is more violent than its Judeo-Christian counterparts, software engineer Tom Anderson processed the text of the Holy books to find which contained the most violence.
In a blog post, Mr Anderson explains: “The project was inspired by the ongoing public debate around whether or not terrorism connected with Islamic fundamentalism reflects something inherently and distinctly violent about Islam compared to other major religions.”…
Mr Anderson summarises: “Of the three texts, the content in the Old Testament appears to be the most violent.
"Killing and destruction are referenced slightly more often in the New Testament (2.8%) than in the Quran (2.1%), but the Old Testament clearly leads—more than twice that of the Quran—in mentions of destruction and killing (5.3%).”
Someone analysed the Bible and Quran to see which is more violent

The African Ancestors of Jesus

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What point are you trying to make to us?

The Million Man March was an important historical and inter-faith event. I respect Farrakhan as a civil rights leader, if not as a religious leader.
 
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Louis Farrakhan suspects that his father may have been Jewish.

At least that's what he tells Henry Louis Gates Jr. in the current issue of The New Yorker magazine.

Speaking of his father's white Portuguese parents, the Nation of Islam leader said, "I'm going to tell you something. You really want to know what I think? I think they were members of the Jewish community."

He added: "I believe that in my blood, and not in a bad way. Because when I was a little boy I used to love listening to the Jewish cantors in Boston. They had a program, and every week I would listen. I was struck by the cantor, and I've always loved the way they sing or recite the Torah."

Gates, citing an academic source, says Farrakhan's assertion about his lineage is "highly probable" given that nearly all people of Iberian descent in Jamaica and Barbados are of Sephardic Jewish ancestry.
Farrakhan claims his father may have been a Jew – J.

Is he an antisemite or just a critic of the Israeli government's policies?
 
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Nation of Islam's theology is steeped in anti-Semitism.

Is he lying when he claims to have Jewish ancestry? Wouldn't that make him a self-hating Jew?

If what you are saying is true, why do black civil rights organizations and the Congressional Black Caucus meet with him and have him speak at their events?
 
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Is he lying when he claims to have Jewish ancestry? If what you are saying is true, why do black civil rights organizations and the Congressional Black Caucus meet with him and have him speak at their events?
He’s famous. And can draw a crowd.
 
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He’s famous. And can draw a crowd.

We shouldn't forget that the Million Man March was a positive and uplifting inter-faith event that had a positive impact on many people's lives.

On October 16, 1995 more than a million Black men gather at the nation’s Capitol Hill and Mall in Washington DC...

Christians, Muslims, Black Nationalists along with those with no religious or organizational affiliation were in attendance. It was billed as a March for justice in response to the spiritual, political and economic warfare that targeted Black people and Black men in particular.

The gathering addressed mass incarceration and called for “Stop the Killing” and gang violence. There were young and old Black men standing shoulder to shoulder in the crowd. There were a sea of Black men and no violence was recorded, according the Final Call newspaper.

There were speeches by Civil Right leaders and politicians. Even though the call was made for men only, prominent Black women were on the stage in support of the march. Dr. Betty Shabazz, Malcolm X’s wife, Maya Angelou and Rosa Parks along with many others...

After the historical day many Black men returned home and joined social reform organizations or started businesses...

The event sparked the Million Women March and the Million Family March.
1995’s The Million Man March in Washington, D.C.
 
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We shouldn't forget that the Million Man March was a positive and uplifting inter-faith event that had a positive impact on many people's lives.
Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
— 2 Corinthians 6:15
 
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Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
— 2 Corinthians 6:15

1 Corinthians 8:2-3
Anyone who claims to know all the answers doesn’t really know very much. But the person who loves God is the one whom God recognizes.

James 4:12
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?

Muslims clearly don't worship Belial or any pagan deity.

“Allah” is the Arabic word for God, not Satan, used both in the Koran and in Arabic translations of the Bible:
Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word “Allah” to mean “God”.[10] The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for “God” than “Allah”.[32]…
Mainstream Bible translations in the language use Allah as the translation of Hebrew Elohim (translated in English Bibles as “God”).[77]
Allah - Wikipedia
 
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1 Corinthians 8:2-3
Anyone who claims to know all the answers doesn’t really know very much. But the person who loves God is the one whom God recognizes.

James 4:12
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?

Muslims clearly don't worship Belial or any pagan deity.
Brother, I used to be a Muslim. The Allah of Islam and of the Quran is not God, the Father.
 
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Brother, I used to be a Muslim. The Allah of Islam and of the Quran is not God, the Father.

I might agree with that, but my respect for Louis Farrakhan is as a civil rights leader, not a religious leader.
 
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Is he lying when he claims to have Jewish ancestry? Wouldn't that make him a self-hating Jew?

If what you are saying is true, why do black civil rights organizations and the Congressional Black Caucus meet with him and have him speak at their events?

Nation of Islam is listed at the Southern Poverty Law Center as problematic:

Nation of Islam

Racist, anti-semitic, and homophobic.

African American politicians and community leaders outrage at bigotry and injustice can be just as selective as any anybody else, when it is convenient.

I wish the Congressional Black Caucas would find better friends.
 
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Anyone who claims to know all the answers doesn’t really know very much. But the person who loves God is the one whom God recognizes.

James 4:12
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Muslims clearly don't worship Belial or any pagan deity.

“Allah” is the Arabic word for God, not Satan, used both in the Koran and in Arabic translations of the Bible:
Muslims worship a false god.
 
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The SPLC, in refusing to denounce Antifa, doesn't have much credibility with me.

Antifa are political extremists, not a hate group. SPLC is focused on hate groups as their mission.
 
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Antifa are political extremists, not a hate group. SPLC is focused on hate groups as their mission.

Antifa members hate all Republicans and targeted people just for wearing Trump hats or supporting Trump. This was in the news.
 
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Antifa members hate all Republicans and targeted people just for wearing Trump hats or supporting Trump. This was in the news.

The SPLC focuses on hatred based on intrinsic characteristics, like race. Political affiliation is not an intrinsic characteristic.
 
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In his first interview with Phil Donahue, Louis Farrakhan answered the accusation of antisemitism, as well as other criticisms:


I respect Farrakhan as a civil rights leader, if not as a religious leader, as does black civil rights organizations and political organizations.
 
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Something that has always bothered me about Christian Zionists is that they turn the other way at the sufferings of Palestinian Christians.

Louis Farrakhan might have more of a heart for Palestinian Christians than they do. Opposing the Israeli government's policies doesn't make one an antisemite.

Louis Farrakhan suspects that his father may have been Jewish.

At least that's what he tells Henry Louis Gates Jr. in the current issue of The New Yorker magazine.

Speaking of his father's white Portuguese parents, the Nation of Islam leader said, "I'm going to tell you something. You really want to know what I think? I think they were members of the Jewish community."

He added: "I believe that in my blood, and not in a bad way. Because when I was a little boy I used to love listening to the Jewish cantors in Boston. They had a program, and every week I would listen. I was struck by the cantor, and I've always loved the way they sing or recite the Torah."

Gates, citing an academic source, says Farrakhan's assertion about his lineage is "highly probable" given that nearly all people of Iberian descent in Jamaica and Barbados are of Sephardic Jewish ancestry.
Farrakhan claims his father may have been a Jew – J.

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinian Christians that Nobody is Talking About - CounterPunch.org

Why Many Christians Want to Leave Palestine. And Why Most Won’t.

Conservative Christians remain silent about suffering Bethlehem
 
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