Let's stick to the letter at hand and examine the context.
You posted Gal. 5. That was the Letter YOU POSTED. I stuck to the Letter at hand just as I have answered and replied to every post you made so far. While you are purposely ignoring my posts, as if I don't even exist. Is this how you love your neighbor in your religion?
Gal 2:3 But not even Titus, who was with me, though he was a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. 4 But it was because of the false brethren secretly brought in, who had sneaked in to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, in order to bring us into bondage. 5 But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
The Jews were trying to reinstitute O.T. Law into Christianity. Paul, and Paul said no. [/QUOTE]
No they were not. The Jews had rejected God's Commandments. They "SAID" they were teaching the Law of Moses, but they "DID NOT" If you were to believe in the Word's of the Christ of the Bible, you would understand this. Please show me which one of these verse you believe is a lie.
Matt. 15:
3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Not God)
John 7:
19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
Matt. 23:
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
4 For they (Pharisees, not God) bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Matt. 23:
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
I could go on and on. You are furthering an insidious falsehood about the Jews religion. They were not trying to get others to obey God. to preach such falsehoods is to reject EVERY WORD Jesus said about them. You are free to reject the Christ, I will not.
Gal 2:11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For prior to the coming of certain men from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he began to withdraw and hold himself aloof, fearing the party of the circumcision. 13 The rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy, with the result that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy. 14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, "If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?
Adding the law, i.e. doing the O.T. works, is hypocritical and heretical. The truth of the gospel is that is completed except for the legal aspects of societal law, i.e. the law is for law breakers. Commit murder and use the bible for the consequences. Commit adultery … consequences … [/QUOTE]
If there is a Law that says "Don't steal", and I am not a thief, then this Law is not for me. It is still a Law, my obedience doesn't make the Law Void. It's just that the Law has no power over me unless I Transgress it.
Again, you are denying the very Word's of the Christ who explains the Jews religion, and so does Paul. What does it mean to "Live like a Jew"? What did the Christ of the Bible tell you about how the Jews Lived? Were the obedient servants of God, or did the teach for doctrines the Commandments of men? Was it against God's Law to eat with a Gentile? Or was it against the religious tradition of the Jews?
Of course, you will refuse to answer these questions and i understand why. Jesus tells me.
You do this to preserve your religious philosophy. This is why you can't respond to my posts, nor answer the questions I pose. To do so, would expose the lies, or darkness in your mind. And religious men love Darkness, so they don't "come to the Light" for fear it will expose them. I cling to the LIGHT of Christ because I want the darkness exposed. Even when it is humiliating. It is painful for awhile, but the Truth sets us free from this darkness. It's just that most don't really believe in the Christ, rather, they place their trust and faith in their religious philosophies of this world. I mean no disrespect here, but you are showing what is precious to you. And it isn't the Word's of the Christ of the Bible. If it was you would understand that the Jews were not trying to "Institute" the Commandments of God.
Gal 2:15 "We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles; 16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified. 17 "But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be! 18 "For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor. 19 "For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God. 20 "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. 21 "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly."
Gal 3:1 You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? 2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
The law is the fleshly part.
That is your religious philosophy, not the Christ's or Paul's.
Rom. 7:
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Again, you are preaching in direct contradiction of Paul, Jesus and the God Abraham.
I can show you the Scriptures, but I can't make you belief them.
The works of the law are not to be a part of Christianity.
This is true. God's People are not "justified" by the Works of the Law. They have aways been justified by Faith. These "Works of the Law" for forgiveness/justification were to be in place "Till the true High Priest should come."
If you would just stop being so rude, and answer the question regarding what Moses required for forgiveness in the Law and Prophets, you would see what Paul is speaking about. i really don't understand your rudeness, nor your lack of interest in finding the answer to these questions I ask.
The laws about consequences for stealing, yes. The societal part is still in play. Not superstition, not keeping a specific day for the Sabbath, not all the feasts, high days, tithe …
Stealing is a Sin, it has absolutely nothing to do with the "Works of the Law" for justification. These "Works of the Law" were "ADDED" "BECAUSE" of stealing. They were ADDED TO the Law which says "Thou shall not steal".
Those in Christ are no longer under the curse of the law. If you reestablish the law you must keep every part PERFECTLY or you are condemned again.
No, there is never even one place in the Bible where "Stealing" became a Non-Sin. You can not, and will not find any place where it is OK with the Christ to "Steal". To sy you can is another insidious lie. It never left, it is still there. There is, nor was there ever anyone one trying to "Reestablish" the Law against Stealing because it never left. What the Jews were trying to "Reestablish" was the Levitical Priesthood "Works of the Law" for forgiveness.
I asked you to show me what the "works of the Law" for forgiveness given by Moses was. I even told you the Chapter they were in, Lev. 4, so you could see for yourself. but you refused to even Look. The "Work's of the Law" for justification found in the Law and Prophets have nothing to do with Stealing, or killing or the Sabbaths at all. Transgressing these things are "Sins". Everyone has sinned. What does Moses say a man who sinned is required to do prior to the Messiah coming? If you were interested in the Truth you would look for yourself. And if you loved your neighbor as yourself you would answer my questions.
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM." 11 Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, "THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." 12 However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, "HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM." 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us--for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE"-- 14 in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
What Law Justified them before the Seed came?
Gal 3:19 Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made. 20 Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one. 21 Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law.
The law was a mediator given for a period of time, but it gives no life and only offers condemnation to everyone who does not fulfill it perfectly. Christ did that.
What was this Law ADDED to? What was being "Transgressed"? You don't know what you are even talking about. And the Scriptures that could help you, you refuse to even acknowledge.
Gal 3:22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. 24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
The law was only a tutor to lead us to Christ. It wasn’t meant to be forever. Yes, do not murder, Yes, do not commit adultery. These are crimes, and that part of the Law SHOULD still be in play.
How does the Law against murder lead a man to Christ?
The law is for law breakers. Not for us who are following ' law. Love thy neighbor as thyself.
Your obedience, Zacharias's obedience, Jesus obedience, Simion's obedience didn't make the Law against murder Void. It's still there.
Again, I will ask you again.
Will you continue your rudeness and disrespect to a man who has only tried to help you?
"What LAW did Moses Give that men were to be justified for following? Did Moses say "If a man sins, he shall love his neighbor as himself, and his sins are forgiven"? NO. The Jews were not trying to preach this Law.
Did Moses say "If a man sins he shall keep the Sabbath Holy and his sins shall be forgiven?" NO, the Jews in Paul's time were not preaching this.
So What did Moses say was required "BY LAW" before forgiveness/justification could be granted?
It is THIS LAW that Abraham didn't have. Abraham had God's Laws, Commandments, Statutes, and Judgments, but THIS LAW wasn't "ADDED" until 430 years after Abraham. It was ADDED to Something, because of "TRANSGRESSION" of Something.
I am done here until you offer some semblance of basic common respect and decency.
I have been patient with you, suffering your rudeness for days now.
If you can't answer some simple questions, or engage with me in some way, then don't bother continuing.