CCWoody
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3rd April 2003 at 09:43 AM nikolai_42 said this in Post #148
Some good questions bird! I was just browsing and had a couple of thoughts for you, rnmomof7 and CCWoody. More of a summing up, really.
If I understand rnmom and CC correctly, there is a group of people (called the elect) that God already knows - even if they don't know Him yet. They will be saved and only they. But where I have questions is where God Himself (through inspired men) says that He desires all men to be saved. Which would seem to me to mean a part of His desires going eternally unsatisfied. Now, maybe that's a misrepresentation - His desire really isn't for all men to be saved. If that's the case, then I can fully see God choosing to save some and not others. Otherwise, it seems God ends up being satisfied with being unsatisfied - because of man's free will. Unless of course those who are eternally ****** are ****** because God predestined them to be that way.
Just some observations. Comments on this? Where is my understanding faulty?
- 1 Timothy 2:1-4
Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Yet, what do we know about prayers concerning the will of God:
- John 14:13-14
Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
AND
- 1 John 5:14-15
Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.
If you were to pray for the actual salvific redemption of "All men" without exception, every single individual member of the human race, would all men without exception be saved just as the Lord himself has promised? Or was the Lord just teasing us?
Your friendly neighborhood Cordial Calvinist
Woody.
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