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I quoted and linked the source that shows that you are wrong. You are making the error of cherry picking and ignoring the science. Again.Wrong. Fauci admitted in a New York Times interview that the numbers he gave for herd immunity didn't change due to the science of herd immunity changing, rather he changed the numbers presented based on polling in the US on vaccine receptiveness and what he thought would get more people to take the vaccine.
In the pandemic’s early days, Dr. Fauci tended to cite the same 60 to 70 percent estimate that most experts did. About a month ago, he began saying “70, 75 percent” in television interviews. And last week, in an interview with CNBC News, he said “75, 80, 85 percent” and “75 to 80-plus percent.”
In a telephone interview the next day, Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.
Hard as it may be to hear, he said, he believes that it may take close to 90 percent immunity to bring the virus to a halt — almost as much as is needed to stop a measles outbreak.
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Now that some polls are showing that many more Americans are ready, even eager, for vaccines, he said he felt he could deliver the tough message that the return to normal might take longer than anticipated.
“When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent,” Dr. Fauci said. “Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, ‘I can nudge this up a bit,’ so I went to 80, 85.”
How much herd immunity is enough?
Fauci expressly said to the NYT that he deliberately moved the goalposts of what vaccine threshold was needed for herd immunity.
The source that I used specifically referred to measles, which is extremely virulent. It needs a 90% vaccination rate. Fauci's claims changed as the knowledge of the virulence of this disease changed.
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