James and the Gospel

HIM said:

The Royal Law, is love thy neighbor as thyself. For love fulfils the law and does no ill. But if we have respect to persons we commit sin and we are then convinced of the Law, the Ten as transgressors.
For if we keep the whole Law, the Ten which the Royal Law, love governs. Yet offend, sin in one point we become guilty of all.

How do we know that the law, the whole Law James mentions through God is the Ten? Context. In verse 9 and 10 He says, law then whole law and then starts naming some of the Ten. Keeping every thing together in respect to context by using the conjunctives, but and for.
Then he through God groups the Royal law, and the law, the whole law, the Ten into one in verse 12 by mentioning being judge by the Law of Liberty, the engrafted word, the new creature begotten, us. Which we are warned to look into as a mirror and not forget what manner of man we have become through Christ. Not to be a forgetful hearer of the engrafted word but a doer continuing therein, thereby we shall be blessed in the deeds.

For if we are judged by the Law of Liberty and convinced from the Law, the whole Law, the ten to be transgressors then the law, the whole Law the ten and the Royal Law is that which is engrafted word, the perfect Law of Liberty.

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All of God's 600+ laws are examples of what it means to love God and our neighbor, which is why that is the Royal law and why it fulfills all of the other laws. For example, to obey the command to help the poor is an example of what it means to obey the command to love our neighbor. The Ten Commandments do not list a command against showing favoritism, so what James was referring to should be consider to be referring to the whole of God's law, not as being limited to just ten of God's laws. The fact that he listed two of the Ten Commandments as examples does not limit the whole of God's law to just the Ten Commandments, especially when James also spoke against showing favoritism. If someone obeys what is listed in the Ten Commandments, but shows favoritism, then they have still become a lawbreaker and need to repent, and the same is true if they instead commit rape, kidnapping, or disobey any of God's other laws. All of the Mosaic Law is included in the Royal Law and is the perfect Law of Liberty (Psalms 19:7).

HIM said:

If we become transgressors by breaking the ten commandments, the whole law, the royal law and we will be Judged by the Law of Liberty, the engrafted Word which begots us as the first fruit. Then the engrafted word, the Law of Liberty is the royal Law, the ten commandments, the whole law in which we will be judged.

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Royal Purple colouring is obtained by mixing red (flesh) and blue (Word of God). The resultant color meaning in the Bible is royalty or priesthood. Purple is the color of royalty, royal love. The disciples would see that as the red blood of Christ shed on earth to reveal the blue of His heavenly dwelling that was commissioned by God to be King of Kings and Lord of Lords to produce the kingdom of priests, gained thru the firstfruit's acceptable offering.

~Cassia~ said:

James was specifically referring to the Father of Lights.

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Soyeong said: ↑
Jesus set a sinless example of how to walk in sinless obedience to the Mosaic Law and did not hypocritically proclaim something other than what he practiced. Christ is one with the Father, so he was not in disagreement with anything that He commanded. Favoritism is nevertheless not one of the Ten Commandments, so what James was referring to should not be interpreted as referring to just the Ten Commandments. The Father did not mislead the Israelites by leading them in the wrong direction by giving them the gift of the Mosaic Law and the example that Jesus set for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to it also did not lead us in the wrong direction.

Soyeong said:

Why do you consider that point to be relevant to what I've said?

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Because the Father of Lights is the giver of all good things. Of course He would not lead in the wrong direction. Nor do I think that He has taken us on a 2000 yr loop de loop thru the desert wilderness after progressing to the promised land, no matter the hardships faced there.
The disciples would see that as the red blood of Christ shed on earth to reveal the blue of His heavenly dwelling that was commissioned by God to be King of Kings and Lord of Lords to produce the kingdom of priests, gained thru the firstfruit's accepted offering. Therefore what is needed is wisdom, not law.

HIM said:

Bondage?
No it is part of who we are. The Law, His Word in our hearts and minds. Now it is not because we have to, but because we want to through the engrafted word.

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The law of Jesus Christ of Nazareth is liberating. The New Covenant.
The Mosaic law is not. It is bondage. Clarification.
Be blessed.

The emphasis on the 10 commandments just refers to the vertical aspect of the first few and the horizontal aspect of the cross in the others.

~Cassia~ said:

Levi 19:18 Forget about the wrong things people do to you, and do not try to get even. Love your neighbor as you love yourself. I am the Lord.
34 but treat them just as you treat your own citizens. Love foreigners as you love yourselves, because you were foreigners one time in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.​

Royal Purple colouring is obtained by mixing red (flesh) and blue (Word of God). The resultant color meaning in the Bible is royalty or priesthood. Purple is the color of royalty, royal love. The disciples would see that as the red blood of Christ shed on earth to reveal the blue of His heavenly dwelling that was commissioned by God to be King of Kings and Lord of Lords to produce the kingdom of priests, gained thru the firstfruit's acceptable offering.

Soyeong said: ↑
Jesus set a sinless example of how to walk in sinless obedience to the Mosaic Law and did not hypocritically proclaim something other than what he practiced. Christ is one with the Father, so he was not in disagreement with anything that He commanded. Favoritism is nevertheless not one of the Ten Commandments, so what James was referring to should not be interpreted as referring to just the Ten Commandments. The Father did not mislead the Israelites by leading them in the wrong direction by giving them the gift of the Mosaic Law and the example that Jesus set for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to it also did not lead us in the wrong direction.
Because the Father of Lights is the giver of all good things. Of course He would not lead in the wrong direction. Nor do I think that He has taken us on a 2000 yr loop de loop thru the desert wilderness after progressing to the promised land, no matter the hardships faced there.
The disciples would see that as the red blood of Christ shed on earth to reveal the blue of His heavenly dwelling that was commissioned by God to be King of Kings and Lord of Lords to produce the kingdom of priests, gained thru the firstfruit's accepted offering. Therefore what is needed is wisdom, not law.

Ja 1:16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers. 17Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, with whom there is no change or shifting shadow. 18He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we would be a kind of firstfruits of His creation.…:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.​

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Would you agree or disagree that God's law is an expression of His wisdom?

Soyeong said:

Would you agree or disagree that God's law is an expression of His wisdom?

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Expression is face to face really and coming face to face with Christ, thru sanctification, from glory to glory, as the containment of the Wisdom of God progressed from OT to NT wisdom, enacted, thru the expression of the Holy Spirit onto the human spirit to become the Expression of Christ thru mankind? Yes, The Expression.
I also believe that the face of the deep was mapped out too as the expression of evil. Would not like to explore that road

Maria Billingsley said:

The law of Jesus Christ of Nazareth is liberating. The New Covenant.
The Mosaic law is not. It is bondage. Clarification.
Be blessed.

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God did not save the Israelties out of Bondage in Egypt in order to put them under bondage to His law, but rather it is for freedom that God sets us free (Galatians 5:1), and the Mosaic Law is a law of liberty (Psalms 119:45). In Psalms 119:142, the Mosaic Law is truth, and in John 8:31-36, it is sin in transgression of the Mosaic Law that puts us on bondage, while it is the truth that sets us free. The same Father who gave the law to Moses also sent Jesus, who who lived in sinless obedience to it, so there is no disagreement.

~Cassia~ said:

Expression is face to face really and coming face to face with Christ, thru sanctification, from glory to glory, as the containment of the Wisdom of God progressed from OT to NT wisdom, enacted, thru the expression of the Holy Spirit onto the human spirit to become the Expression of Christ thru mankind? Yes, The Expression.
I also believe that the face of the deep was mapped out too as the expression of evil. Would not like to explore that road

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So if you agree that God's law is an expression of His wisdom, then it is contradictory to think that what is needed is wisdom instead of law. Jesus expressed his wisdom through how he lived, and he lived in sinless obedience to the Mosaic Law.

HIM said:

Context and grammar. The clause "whole law" is being said in reference to the Ten. This we know because of the use of the word "for" at the beginning of verse 11. What follows it is the reason for what was previously stated.


(Jas 2:8) If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
(Jas 2:9) But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
(Jas 2:10) For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
(Jas 2:11) For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
(Jas 2:12) So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

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Unless I am missing something, that proves nothing.

If what you are saying is correct, then shouldn't the end of verse eleven say the "whole law"? (which you claim means the TCs)

Saint Steven said: ↑
Who is "we"?

How can "the whole law" be defined as less than "the law"?
Are not the Ten Commandments a subset of the law? (10 of 613 laws)

HIM said:

Context and grammar. The clause "whole law" is being said in reference to the Ten. This we know because of the use of the word "for" at the beginning of verse 11. What follows it is the reason for what was previously stated.


(Jas 2:8) If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
(Jas 2:9) But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
(Jas 2:10) For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
(Jas 2:11) For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
(Jas 2:12) So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

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Again, the context includes the prohibition against showing favoritism, which isn't one of the Ten Commandments, and James using two of the Ten Commandments as examples in verse 11 does not in any way limit the whole law to referring to just the Ten Commandments, especially because what he was specifically criticizing them for doing and calling them to repent from doing was inconsistently choosing to obey other laws while also showing favoritism. Likewise, in context of James 1:26-27, he speaks about bridling or tongue, visiting the orphans and widows in their affliction, which are not listed as part of the Ten Commandments.

Soyeong said:

the Mosaic Law is a law of liberty

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If that were so, then there would be no need for "Liberty in Jesus Christ of Nazareth". Be blessed.

Soyeong said:

So if you agree that God's law is an expression of His wisdom, then it is contradictory to think that what is needed is wisdom instead of law. Jesus expressed his wisdom through how he lived, and he lived in sinless obedience to the Mosaic Law.

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Did I say that the law was still in effect as His continued expression of Himself, no. I said the opposite.

~Cassia~ said:

Expression is face to face really and coming face to face with Christ, thru sanctification, from glory to glory, as the containment of the Wisdom of God progressed from OT to NT wisdom, enacted, thru the expression of the Holy Spirit onto the human spirit to become the Expression of Christ thru mankind? Yes, The Expression.
I also believe that the face of the deep was mapped out too as the expression of evil. Would not like to explore that road

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Maria Billingsley said:

If that were so, then there would be no need for "Liberty in Jesus Christ of Nazareth". Be blessed.

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In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so the liberty that we have in Christ is the liberty from lawlessness and the liberty to do good works in obedience to it, not the liberty to be lawless.

Soyeong said:

In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so the liberty that we have in Christ is the liberty from lawlessness and the liberty to do good works in obedience to it, not the liberty to be lawless.

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I am affraid we will never see eye to eye . I do not live by the Torah, I live by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Be blessed.

HIM said:

So what Law, Word is in the heart through Christ?

The Engrafted Word which is the Law of Liberty. Which includes The Royal law (love thy neighbor) and the ten commandments, the whole Law, in which we will be judged by.
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Jas 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
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Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

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James 1:18 Of His own will begat He us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures. Revelation 14:1-5

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 24 For all flesh [is] as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the Gospel is preached unto you. (Isaiah 40:3-8)

John 12:48-50 He that rejecteth Me, and receiveth not My words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 12:49 For I have not spoken of Myself; but the Father which sent Me, He gave Me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 12:50 And I know that His Commandment is Life Everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto Me, so I speak.

Deuteronomy 18:18-19 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee(Moses), and will put My words in His mouth; and He shall speak unto them all that I shall command Him. 19 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever will not hearken unto My words which He shall speak in My name, I will require [it] of him.

Revelation 3:8-10 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept My word, and hast not denied My name.

Soyeong said:

All of God's 600+ laws are examples of what it means to love God and our neighbor, which is why that is the Royal law and why it fulfills all of the other laws. For example, to obey the command to help the poor is an example of what it means to obey the command to love our neighbor. The Ten Commandments do not list a command against showing favoritism, so what James was referring to should be consider to be referring to the whole of God's law, not as being limited to just ten of God's laws. The fact that he listed two of the Ten Commandments as examples does not limit the whole of God's law to just the Ten Commandments, especially when James also spoke against showing favoritism. If someone obeys what is listed in the Ten Commandments, but shows favoritism, then they have still become a lawbreaker and need to repent, and the same is true if they instead commit rape, kidnapping, or disobey any of God's other laws. All of the Mosaic Law is included in the Royal Law and is the perfect Law of Liberty (Psalms 19:7).

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Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (pleroo, to make replete)
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till Heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (ginomai, come into being)
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by Heaven; for it is God's throne:

5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Matthew 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee(Moses), and will put My words in His mouth; and He shall speak unto them all that I shall command Him. 19 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever will not hearken unto My words which He shall speak in My name, I will require [it] of him. John 12:48-50

Ligurian said:

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (pleroo, to make replete)
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till Heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (ginomai, come into being)
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

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"To fulfill the law" means "to cause God's will as made known in His law to be obeyed as it should be” (NAS Greek Lexicon pleroo 2c3). After Jesus said he came to fulfill the law in Matthew 5, he proceeded to fulfill it six times throughout the rest of the chapter by teaching how to correctly obey it or by completing our understanding of it. In Galatians 5:14, loving our neighbor fulfills the entire law, so it refers to something that countless people have done, not to something unique that only Jesus did. In Galatians 6:2, bearing one another's burdens fulfills the Law of Christ, so you should interpret that in the same way as you interpret fulfilling the Law of Moses.

5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

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In Galatians 4:4, Jesus was born under the law, so he was obligated to obey it, including Deuteronomy 4:2, which forbids adding to or subtracting from the law, so Jesus should not be interpreted as making changes to it in Matthew 5, but rather everything that he taught in that chapter was rooted in the OT, and in fact there has never been someone else whose teachings were more thoroughly rooted in the OT. Whenever Jesus directly quoted Scripture, he preceded it by saying "it is written", but when he was quoting from what the people of his day had heard being spoken, he preceded it by saying "you have heard that it was said", so his emphasis on the different form of communication is important. So he was not making changes to what was written, but rather he was fulfilling the law by correcting what was wrongly being taught about it and by teaching how to correctly obey it as it was originally intended, which is evidence by the fact that everything that Jesus said after "but I say unto you" is in accordance with the OT while everything he said after "you have heard that it was said" is not fully in accordance with the OT. Case in point, in regard to Matthew 5:43, while the OT does instruct us to love our neighbor (Leviticus 19:18), it does not instruct us to hate our enemy, so that is what he was correcting. On the contrary, loving our enemy is in accordance with verses like Exodus 23:4-5, Deuteronomy 23:7, Proverbs 24:17-18, and Proverbs 25:21-22.

Matthew 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

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In Matthew 19:3, Jess was asked whether it was lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason. To provide some context, Gittin 90a-b interprets Deuteronomy 24:1-4 as saying that a man is permitted to divorce his wife if she ruined his meal or if he found someone who was prettier than her. It was divorce over frivolous reasons that was not so from the beginning, rather everything Jesus taught about marriage and divorce in in accordance with the OT.

Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee(Moses), and will put My words in His mouth; and He shall speak unto them all that I shall command Him. 19 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever will not hearken unto My words which He shall speak in My name, I will require [it] of him. John 12:48-50

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The same God who gave the law to Moses also sent Jesus, who set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to it, and who did not hypocritically preach something other than what he practiced, so Jesus should not be interpreted as being in disagreement with Moses, but rather he treated his writings as being authoritative. For example, in John 5:46-47, Jesus said that if they believed Moses, then they would believe him because Moses wrote about him, yet if they don't believe his writings, then how can they believe him? So we can't believe what Jesus said without also believing Moses. If Jesus had been in disagreement with Moses, then it wouldn't make sense to appeal to what Moses said in Deuteronomy 18:18 as being authoritative, but rather Jesus defeated the temptations of Satan by quoting from Deuteronomy three times, so again he considered what Moses wrote to be authoritative. Likewise, John 12:48-50 saying that Jesus did not speak on his own authority and that he only said what the Father commanded should not be used to try to justify disagreement with what the Father commanded to Moses.

Soyeong said:

"To fulfill the law" means "to cause God's will as made known in His law to be obeyed as it should be” (NAS Greek Lexicon pleroo 2c3). After Jesus said he came to fulfill the law in Matthew 5, he proceeded to fulfill it six times throughout the rest of the chapter by teaching how to correctly obey it or by completing our understanding of it. In Galatians 5:14, loving our neighbor fulfills the entire law, so it refers to something that countless people have done, not to something unique that only Jesus did. In Galatians 6:2, bearing one another's burdens fulfills the Law of Christ, so you should interpret that in the same way as you interpret fulfilling the Law of Moses.

In Galatians 4:4, Jesus was born under the law, so he was obligated to obey it, including Deuteronomy 4:2, which forbids adding to or subtracting from the law, so Jesus should not be interpreted as making changes to it in Matthew 5, but rather everything that he taught in that chapter was rooted in the OT, and in fact there has never been someone else whose teachings were more thoroughly rooted in the OT. Whenever Jesus directly quoted Scripture, he preceded it by saying "it is written", but when he was quoting from what the people of his day had heard being spoken, he preceded it by saying "you have heard that it was said", so his emphasis on the different form of communication is important. So he was not making changes to what was written, but rather he was fulfilling the law by correcting what was wrongly being taught about it and by teaching how to correctly obey it as it was originally intended, which is evidence by the fact that everything that Jesus said after "but I say unto you" is in accordance with the OT while everything he said after "you have heard that it was said" is not fully in accordance with the OT. Case in point, in regard to Matthew 5:43, while the OT does instruct us to love our neighbor (Leviticus 19:18), it does not instruct us to hate our enemy, so that is what he was correcting. On the contrary, loving our enemy is in accordance with verses like Exodus 23:4-5, Deuteronomy 23:7, Proverbs 24:17-18, and Proverbs 25:21-22.

In Matthew 19:3, Jess was asked whether it was lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason. To provide some context, Gittin 90a-b interprets Deuteronomy 24:1-4 as saying that a man is permitted to divorce his wife if she ruined his meal or if he found someone who was prettier than her. It was divorce over frivolous reasons that was not so from the beginning, rather everything Jesus taught about marriage and divorce in in accordance with the OT.

The same God who gave the law to Moses also sent Jesus, who set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to it, and who did not hypocritically preach something other than what he practiced, so Jesus should not be interpreted as being in disagreement with Moses, but rather he treated his writings as being authoritative. For example, in John 5:46-47, Jesus said that if they believed Moses, then they would believe him because Moses wrote about him, yet if they don't believe his writings, then how can they believe him? So we can't believe what Jesus said without also believing Moses. If Jesus had been in disagreement with Moses, then it wouldn't make sense to appeal to what Moses said in Deuteronomy 18:18 as being authoritative, but rather Jesus defeated the temptations of Satan by quoting from Deuteronomy three times, so again he considered what Moses wrote to be authoritative. Likewise, John 12:48-50 saying that Jesus did not speak on his own authority and that he only said what the Father commanded should not be used to try to justify disagreement with what the Father commanded to Moses.

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Matthew 16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Deuteronomy 13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Exodus 20:18 And all the people perceived the thundering, and the flashes, and the voice of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking; and all the people feared and stood afar off, 19 and said to Moses, Speak thou to us, and let not God speak to us, lest we die. 20 And Moses says to them, Be of good courage, for God is come to you to try you, that His fear may be among you, that ye sin not. 21 And the people stood afar off, and Moses went into the darkness where God was. 22 And the Lord said to Moses, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and thou shalt report it to the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have spoken to you from Heaven. 23 Ye shall not make to yourselves gods of silver, and gods of gold ye shall not make to yourselves. 24 Ye shall make to Me an altar of earth; and upon it ye shall sacrifice your whole burnt-offerings, and your peace-offerings, and your sheep and your calves in every place, where I shall record My name; and I will come to thee and bless thee. 25 And if thou wilt make to Me an altar of stones, thou shalt not build them hewn stones; for thou hast lifted up thy tool upon them, and they are defiled. 26 Thou shalt not go up to My altar by steps, that thou mayest not uncover thy nakedness upon it.LXX

Matthew 26:42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O My Father, if this cup may not pass away from Me, except I drink it, Thy will be done.

1 Samuel 8:6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD. 7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.

Esaias 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, Heaven is My throne, and the earth is My footstool: what kind of a house will ye build Me? and of what kind is to be the place of My rest? 2 For all these things are Mine, saith the Lord: and to whom will I have respect, but to the humble and meek, and the man that trembles at My words? 3 But the transgressor that sacrifices a calf to Me, is as he that kills a dog; and he that offers fine flour, as one that offers swine’s blood; he that gives frankincense for a memorial, is as a blasphemer. Yet they have chosen their own ways, and their soul has delighted in their abominations. 4 I also will choose their mockeries, and will recompense their sins upon them; because I called them, and they did not hearken to Me; I spoke, and they heard not: and they did evil before Me, and chose the things wherein I delighted not.
5 Hear the words of the Lord, ye that tremble at His word; speak ye, our brethren, to them that hate you and abominate you, that the name of the Lord may be glorified, and may appear their joy; but they shall be ashamed.LXX