Is cancel culture a form of bullying?

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"Cancelling" is nothing more than the most modern name for "boycott" or "shun" or "excommunicate" or "scarlet letter" or "sanctuary city" (OT) or "...do not even eat with such a person" (NT).

Baloney. Deliberately setting out to ruin a person's reputation, cost him his job or position in society, subject him to numerous and often orchestrated slanders and vandalism...is NOT simple shunning or boycotting. :doh:
 
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Baloney. Deliberately setting out to ruin a person's reputation, cost him his job or position in society, subject him to numerous and often orchestrated slanders and vandalism...is NOT simple shunning or boycotting. :doh:

But shunning does all those things. So does blacklisting. If you understand the precariousness of life as a Christian in a pagan society, so does the excommunication instructed by the apostle Paul to the Corinthians. In fact, Paul actually says, "...for the destruction of the body."
 
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But shunning does all those things. So does blacklisting.
No, actually neither of them does. 'Cancel culture' is not so named just because one's friends leave him.

The idea is to cancel the person in the other aspects of his life as well, particularly in his employment, standing in any civic organization, etc., and typically goes so far as to include vandalism and threatening him and his family.
 
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No, actually neither of them does. 'Cancel culture' is not so named just because one's friends leave him.

The idea is to cancel the person in the other aspects of his life as well, particularly in his employment, standing in any civic organization, etc., and typically goes so far as to include vandalism and threatening him and his family.

Yeah, that happened years ago, too.

In the book "Education of a WASP," a woman named Lois Stalvey and her husband, an architect, lived in a nice area of west Omaha, NE. They chanced to meet a professional black couple then living in a small apartment in north Omaha (the black part of the city) who wanted to live in a nicer area for the sake of their daughter.

The Stalveys attempted to help the black couple move to their own neighborhood. That led to them being put out of their church, her husband lost his job, and they were run out of the neighborhood.

Do you think people who were blacklisted in the 50s didn't lose employment? That's what blacklisting was specifically about--the denial of employment.

There is a whole lot of babble about "cancelling" but compared to all the babble, there is really very little actual "cancelling" going on...except when a person has actually done egregious things or simply didn't have much going for them to begin with.

"Cancelled" entertainers, for instance, come back fairly quickly if they actually had talent in the first place and didn't actually do anything egregious. Most "cancelling" attempts simply fail--they were never more than a small percentage of loudmouths in the first place who merely had a microphone for a short period of time.
 
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There is a whole lot of babble about "cancelling" but compared to all the babble, there is really very little actual "cancelling" going on...except when a person has actually done egregious things or simply didn't have much going for them to begin with.
Ah, so when the persons who have determined to destroy the offender--someone who voted for the "wrong" candidate, for example--decide that the intended victim "has actually done egregious things" according to their own personal political values, that is, or (as you said) "didn't have much going for them" (which doesn't sound deserving of destruction), then it's all right!

Thanks. That seems clear enough.
 
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Is cancel culture a form of bullying?

Why it would not be bullying? I would like to hear explanation for this because to me it is obviously bullying.

All oppression, including telling someone that ”your opinion is invalid” or ”labeling” someone in a negative way is oppression and bullying.
 
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Do you think it’s healthy for the system,
for every comedian on network TV to be a Democrat?
"Conservative" humor just isnt as funny on average. Its more blunt, less subtle, requiring less exertion of intellect to grasp...on average.

So, yeah youre right. Conservative humor should be popular enough to totally dominate TV.
 
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Is cancel culture a form of bullying?

It's a form of shaming in order to encourage conformity, which is as old as sin.

I do think we have a new situation with technology that we haven't figured out how to navigate. How long should a record of the stupid things people say, or even legal transgressions people commit, be available at the click of a mouse? Do people have a right to be forgotten or a right to erasure?

Right to be forgotten - Wikipedia

Should certain things be erasable from public record, upon request, after a period of time? Which I think is related to the more fundamental question: Should we allow, from the outset, that people can change and get better? I think Christians, by default, have to allow for that.

On the other hand, it seems there are some things that people do that someone should always remember. For the sake of the common good, certain actions and their perpetrators should have some record publicly available.

And then there's the issue of free speech, which in the States is an obstacle (I would think) to any legislation towards letting folks erase forgivable transgressions, like being stupid, or rash, or I'll informed. I don't know where the line is, but one could be drawn.
 
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It wasn't that long ago that if you wanted to find an article on something stupid somebody said ten years prior, you had to go somewhere and look it up, perhaps even use a microfiche machine. That's just not something people did on a whim. There was a practical barrier to remembering every little grievance.
 
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It wasn't that long ago that if you wanted to find an article on something stupid somebody said ten years prior, you had to go somewhere and look it up, perhaps even use a microfiche machine. That's just not something people did on a whim. There was a practical barrier to remembering every little grievance.

Ah, the good old days, now with the power of the internet you can get every stupid thing that anybody says or does including things that they never said or did. With the added bonus of fake news articles and doctored magazine covers from the 1970s, there's no reason why anyone should not triumph in an internet debate.
 
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No, actually neither of them does. 'Cancel culture' is not so named just because one's friends leave him.

The idea is to cancel the person in the other aspects of his life as well, particularly in his employment, standing in any civic organization, etc., and typically goes so far as to include vandalism and threatening him and his family.

And even worse than just to be threatened.
 
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"Conservative" humor just isnt as funny on average. Its more blunt, less subtle, requiring less exertion of intellect to grasp...on average.

So, yeah youre right. Conservative humor should be popular enough to totally dominate TV.
For example, to understand why Republicans love guns.

Many Republicans go hunting for food.
Guns protect you from bears and wolves.

If you live in a rural area,
the nearest law enforcement might be 50 miles away or more.
 
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