Gravity - is it really there?

JohnEmmett · Jul 19, 2021

Bungle_Bear said:
The sound of you missing the point.

you know not

Freodin · Jul 19, 2021

d taylor said:
There is no force, if any force is work on the earth it is magnetism.

If there is a force call gravity, it is mighty selective in what it chooses to pull or push to earth. It seems like heavier objects are this imaginary forces preference for pulling or pushing to earth.

Now this is a very interesting view.

It still seems that this "magnetism" is just as selective, prefering to pull to earth heavier things.
But at the same time, NOT selecting for things with different electromagnetic properties.
Dropping a bar magnet or a equally sized bar of simple iron will result in the same movement.

Weird.

It's almost as if this "magnetism" doesn't behave like the magnetism we see in magnets at all. It almost seems as if it's a phenomenon independent of magnetism. It almost seems that it is not based on the electromagnetic properties of an object, but on its mass.

Perhaps we should give it a different name. Like "heaviness". Or, because science likes its Latin.... "gravity".

ViaCrucis · Jul 23, 2021

This is why I'm building a rocket ship to reach heaven. See ya later suckers.

-CryptoLutheran

d taylor · Jul 23, 2021

Freodin said:
Now this is a very interesting view.

It still seems that this "magnetism" is just as selective, prefering to pull to earth heavier things.
But at the same time, NOT selecting for things with different electromagnetic properties.
Dropping a bar magnet or a equally sized bar of simple iron will result in the same movement.

Weird.

It's almost as if this "magnetism" doesn't behave like the magnetism we see in magnets at all. It almost seems as if it's a phenomenon independent of magnetism. It almost seems that it is not based on the electromagnetic properties of an object, but on its mass.

Perhaps we should give it a different name. Like "heaviness". Or, because science likes its Latin.... "gravity".

I am a gravity atheist, you should understand that.

Like the atheist sates prove to me there is a god.

So prove there is a force needed for a flat and stationary earth, that has been called gravity.

JohnEmmett · Jul 23, 2021

d taylor said:
I am a gravity atheist

So prove there is a force … called gravity.

Sounds like atheism

Petros2015 · Jul 23, 2021

CWalsh2468 said:
May this be the devil's will trying to bring us to the darkness? God's might keeping us above ground and, ultimately, winning the battle of good and evil.

Uh... I think if Gravity stops you are going to be flung off the earth pretty fast and into the Outer darkness.

"Faith is a bit like Gravity - it can hurt sometimes, but without it, you won't be here for very long"

Bungle_Bear · Jul 24, 2021

d taylor said:
I am a gravity atheist, you should understand that.

Like the atheist sates prove to me there is a god.

So prove there is a force needed for a flat and stationary earth, that has been called gravity.

Take several steps back. You first need to demonstrate that the earth is flat and stationary.

Ophiolite · Jul 24, 2021

d taylor said:
So prove there is a force needed for a flat and stationary earth, that has been called gravity.

Obviously that is not possible since it would require you to accept data that you currently ignore, or deny exists. For example, we could not have placed dozens of interplanetary probes into precise locations throughout the solar system if gravity did not exist and we have a sound understanding of it. But, apparently, you deny such probes actually exist, that they are some sort of conspiracy. So why even ask for proof, when you intend to ignore it. Is it not rather insincere?

Yttrium · Jul 24, 2021

d taylor said:
So prove there is a force needed for a flat and stationary earth, that has been called gravity.

Jump up. You fall down. Happens every time.

That was easy.

Would you like us to prove the existence of air next?

Aryeh Jay · Jul 24, 2021

Yttrium said:
Jump up. You fall down. Happens every time.

That was easy.

Would you like us to prove the existence of air next?

Unbeliever! Witch!

JohnEmmett · Jul 24, 2021

Yttrium said:
Jump up. You fall down. Happens every time.

That was easy.

No one can explain what is causing gravity

No one yet has explained the cause

Yttrium · Jul 24, 2021

JohnEmmett said:
No one can explain what is causing gravity

No one yet has explained the cause

Right. It still obviously exists.

JohnEmmett · Jul 24, 2021

Yttrium said:
Right. It still obviously exists.

Like divinity

Yttrium · Jul 24, 2021

JohnEmmett said:
Like divinity

What do you mean by... Oh, never mind, I'll just define it however I want and agree with you.

Ophiolite · Jul 24, 2021

JohnEmmett said:
No one yet has explained the cause

No one has explained why you keep posting, but it happens.

JohnEmmett · Jul 24, 2021

Ophiolite said:
No one has explained why you keep posting, but it happens.

I have explained… I receive trouble here

I am patient, tolerant, forgiving

This creates karma for beauty…

chilehed · Jul 24, 2021

CWalsh2468 said:
Gravity - is it really there?

I've noticed it fairly often.

CWalsh2468 said:
I have always been suspicious of the, seemingly, blind assumption that there is a magical force forcing us down to the Earth

I'm sixty years old and I've observed gravity at work during every instant of my life, so "blind assumption" and "magical" seem pretty poor descriptors of my expectation that it'll be there in five minutes when I pour myself some coffee.

JohnEmmett · Jul 24, 2021

chilehed said:
I've noticed it fairly often.

Paradigm - Wikipedia

Perhaps the greatest barrier to a paradigm shift, in some cases, is the reality of paradigm paralysis: the inability or refusal to see beyond the current models of thinking.

~

JohnEmmett · Jul 24, 2021

Flat earth is absurd… atheism is dangerous.

Shrug

Hans Blaster · Jul 24, 2021

JohnEmmett said:
Flat earth is absurd… atheism is dangerous.

Shrug

Of course the "flat Earth" is absurd, as is the notion that somehow gravity isn't real.

Why exactly is atheism "dangerous"?

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