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I think rather I should not speak for God it is only for Him to know if it is not required so I believe one should be baptized and have communion though we don’t know if communion was intended to be done for sanctification and it could be a spiritual thing
 
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I do not believe Jesus taught to break any laws even the Jews it is good for them to keep the law such as circumcision or the sabbath but it is not a requirement to be saved there was an accusation about Paul that he taught people not to keep law it was advised he shows that he does he said to Jews he became as a Jew therefore he kept it but it is not required anymore as Jesus said think not that I came to destroy the law but to fulfill it therefore whoever breaks one of the least of His commandments and teaches men to do he is least it also refers to breaking the law and teaching men to keep it he is least


As Jesus said the sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath and the Son of Man is Lord of the sabbath to say how it should be kept not to do away with it

when Paul said let no one judge you regarding sabbaths he was not saying to do away with it but not for people to judge you for not keeping it or to say it is required

One man esteems one day special one man esteems every day alike let each be convinced in himself he is saying not to judge but there was a tradition given for special use as you see in 1 Corinthians 16:2 and John was caught up on Lord day so such days may be special that carry a blessing though they are not required to be saved


1 Corinthians 16:2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.


The apostles often used the sabbath to preach to give the rest it is supposed to

The gentiles begged on sabbath to hear them so sabbath was maybe blessed day to allow people to commune with God to give true rest it may carry a blessing to allow one to be sanctified to be able to do more for the Lord to be useful but others can still be saved as they can still serve God outside of sabbath they can still commune with Him
 
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Thought I would return to church because I don’t like divisions still happening because people seem to make Christians like me really bad for narrow views in their Facebook posts but I won’t let them stop me

But do I need a church to fellowship in person for safety as all churches are closed now is it the same online ?
 
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I did not want to do below but I don’t know with others against me whether I can have influence on others and I don’t think people should have to be in doubt people know what Christianity teaches they have the option to trust and believe or if they don’t to join the church I don’t think I should not have assurance so I would like to join the church

I think I just need to accept the church incase it is true I can’t know it is not true unless God proves it though other Christians could be saved

It may be spiritual life can not be found except in the church that you may not be able to reach old age to not die unexpectadly or even you risk dying unexpectedly without the oil and spiritual life if you did not plan to go to church if God does not think you have excuse


I believe the Catholic Church has spiritual life in it too for catholics who never know the truth if it is not shown them or when they enquire they can’t know someone who was orthodox must be orthodox according to some it could be not true and just politics but I don’t know

I think now it is up to others what they want to believe I am not sure if there is salvation outside the church it is up to people to believe or join the church I am going to join the church as I am not sure if others really care about me they even seem to act like there is no hope for me or I can convince others if they believe so I think I should just seek to save myself
 
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I did not want to do below but I don’t know with others against me whether I can have influence on others and I don’t think people should have to be in doubt people know what Christianity teaches they have the option to trust and believe or if they don’t to join the church I don’t think I should not have assurance so I would like to join the church

I think I just need to accept the church incase it is true I can’t know it is not true unless God proves it though other Christians could be saved

It may be spiritual life can not be found except in the church that you may not be able to reach old age to not die unexpectadly or even you risk dying unexpectedly without the oil and spiritual life if you did not plan to go to church if God does not think you have excuse


I believe the Catholic Church has spiritual life in it too for catholics who never know the truth if it is not shown them or when they enquire they can’t know someone who was orthodox must be orthodox according to some it could be not true and just politics but I don’t know

I think now it is up to others what they want to believe I am not sure if there is salvation outside the church it is up to people to believe or join the church I am going to join the church as I am not sure if others really care about me they even seem to act like there is no hope for me or I can convince others if they believe so I think I should just seek to save myself
This is what scripture says to go by:

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

I would study God's Word for yourself and ask for the Holy Spirit to guide you in Truth. If you truly are willing to do God's will, let the Holy Spirit guide you and test it by the scripture above. The Holy Spirit will never guide you to break God's laws. That spirit does not come from God.

God bless
 
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Thankyou I will I do not believe the bible teaches a church institution but others may not believe what I say and I can doubt it even though I am not convinced by arguments of church as has no proof though I can not prove also it is wrong I thought I should join church as people may not take me seriously but I think I should trust in God as I really do not believe it teaches church but I felt alone in proclaiming the bible beliefs and others accusing me because I speak as though I am judgemental in their Facebook posts
I should not support divisions and I do not believe people who follow the church are evil but I believe God has spoken to me and shown what is my purpose to follow and if I am following the church just to try to get others regret for not doing as I want it is wrong

some people use passages like this to prove church but I believe God intended oil to be used just so others would know it is from that righteous mans prayers


James 5:13-18
13 Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing psalms. 14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16 Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. 17 Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain; and it did not rain on the land for three years and six months. 18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth produced its fruit
 
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I believe it does not help to make divisions and I should not make them as I care to fellowship with others and think it is good for body of Christ to be united seeking God I think baptism and communion may not be required to be saved but baptism and maybe communion are necessary to be saved on death but we don’t know so it should be done incase
 
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I saw a person on their facebook page showing how many christians are not following jesus teachings which made me feel it is almost too late to have a relationship with God and that was said on another person facebook page and I have not been successful finding jesus outside the church to have a relationship as they claim to have person knew the faults people have in following the bible which seem true but I am not sure person is following it either or you can I thought what they expect from people is not actually required for salvation as none can fulfill it as I see no evidence that they could ever be satisfied that they know the way fully but I wonder if what they say is true and they really are right we are not following but they dont seem to know for sure the way themselves and not showing it to me so I am wondering maybe it is not possible outside the church that you can know the full way of salvation outside the church for it does not seem they know full way either I have not been able to find relationship and I am wondering if it is because I am outside the church so I will return to church and still seek personal relationship if you can I just prefer God to prove truth I want assurance maybe God wants people to believe but I don't know people have the choice whether to believe or join the church.

So I decided it is not my job to try to control what others choose Jesus is the truth I don’t think we should have to be in doubt about salvation so I will join the church and people can too I believed others can be saved I believed in word of God only and not tradition but as I can not prove I think I should join the church it is up to others to decide if they can trust only word of God as true not teaching a church or to join church but word of God is true and may or may not teach a church so if one rejects Christ he would be the cause of his own destruction

Though I wish God to prove the truth and don’t want to have to doubt so I seek to follow church because I do not like there is still divisions for person not to know for sure though I believed God wants people to seek unity with all christians if they have faith in truth which could be true but as I can not know and I want to make sure I am doing God will if it is not I seek to join church to see if God wants that to lead others and leave it to be free to others to choose.

I believe if people do not believe and they want assurance if they were orthodox they should be orthodox if they do not know catholic is true otherwise people should be catholic they are only required to be orthodox if they can know it is true if they have opportunity
 
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I would prefer there was no divisions though I think God may want to trust maybe not if you suppose we should have other teachers to explain more clearly what Jesus meant if it does seem right

Perhaps church is not true but I don’t know but if it is not people should be baptized and have communion to be sure but we still don’t know I would prefer there is no divisions

As I am not convinced of the truth of Catholic Church and believe early church did not teach papal supremacy but the pope is able to preach the full truth if he exercises his gift so others should hear him so since we can not know what early church belief was if it believed in a pope as teacher or orthodox orthodox should confess to catholic and catholic should confess to orthodox to be informed and remain what they are if they are not convinced and to decide for themselves what truth is

Since if we don’t know what Jesus taught would He accept one who did not get baptized before or have communion or rather if he did not plan to if he was persecuted perhaps one needs to try to and leave judgement to God and since if you don’t know if you need church or not it seems you should join it
 
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I had a dream once not too long ago where I was arguing with God in my thoughts arguing why Jesus made it it is very important to identify as Christian why only Jesus is only way to heaven questioning Him with all these divisions and there was some friendly white people maybe angels or people on earth who became like angels saints as one seemed a female maybe an Old Testament saint they said they would take me to God to know why but I was arguing with them but they were comforting me saying you are doing right not to support divisions and they were going to take me up to God I felt them taking me but I was crying because I know God is strict and He might judge my dad if not very devout so dream ended and God left me on earth maybe because I was not fully interested in truth to say it being because I thought no one would listen to me but I was glad as I thought it would be something bad that God should not tell me or He could make me lose trust in God or be hateful as no one would listen to me but maybe it was an act of mercy perhaps for God to say I am not saying this as I want to judge but to help you know you are following right path to continue to follow Him and to know what you believe in your heart is true to teach is right that you should preach. But I wonder if the dream was from demons for if they we’re not they would be able to take me to God

but I don’t know so I am following the church
 
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I decided I will not follow the church as I believe God is not unjust as I don’t believe anyway baptism is necessary because God would never require it as many did not know truth so it can’t be absolutely required and God is not unjust to allow people time to be limited to obey to allow a terrorist to have the power to kill their soul to catch them even if they were not thinking to do it or delayed and one may not want to do now as one does not think it has right impression as not fair especially the idea to need communion to go to services often to maintain connection with God
 
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I edited some out as it is disrespectful and does not fit any one church and the term used refers mainly to those who do not care for knowledge of true God and live without God those who reject jesus and those in churches who are not seeking to please jesus and obey jesus not those sincere in their beliefs who never knew how wrong and harmful their beliefs are but those in a church if they seek to cause people to abandon their faith and to follow God it would especially describe them if that becomes their goal.
The bible says it is glory of God to conceal a matter the glory of kings to search a matter God allows people who do not care to search the truth not to know He may even conceal it though others have known not to let you know but when one seeks to know He can show one He can show you what is there which you didn’t know though I don’t know for sure it may be God is trying to speak to me that perhaps the churches which make alliance with world are Babylon and the one that leads this is Catholic Church because it makes union with those who are opposed to the true God who is our Lord Jesus I don’t know for sure if only she is if only she sits on seven hills I went to a catholic school for primary school and it just happens to be in a suburb named seven hills I wonder if others knew prophecy and planned it on purpose to call it seven hills because it had a history of catholic churches there maybe with schools too.
 
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I would prefer Christians are united and God may prefer to make unity if you can but I don’t think I have been successful to do so and faithful and I want assurance so I am going to join church I think people should join a church if they don’t trust if they want assurance.
 
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It could be church is not true nor baptism or communion is required and the truth is outside and you have to follow God and with faith is required proper walking to be pleasing to God though faith is sufficient to save it should be followed by proper life all who truly have faith should be walking a proper life and it is good to study Christian writers to know if one is truly abiding in Christ so I will seek to study other Christian writers to learn from them and to teach others what I learn from them it may be faith alone if you are truly seeking to follow Christ is enough as bible says even as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the Son of Man be lifted up that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life so it is by continuing in belief that one is able to have life to agree with truth to believe to seek to follow Him as you believe and when you fall short to have forgiveness of sins by believing to pass from death into life each time you look to Him to believe to repent to make you continue to have life that is what I believe but I can study Christian writers to see if they agree or to see how they think to see if I agree to be open to correction if I need it and that they proven I am wrong but I don’t know so I think people may need baptism and communion so they should do them incase and also they should join church if they are not sure if they can trust and they want assurance as I am doing to try to follow it assuming it is practical to follow it if I can
 
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I believe I am wrong and I should repent of rebelling I believe it is right to trust that God only cares about heart that one seeks to please Him to follow Him I believe I was wrong to rebel because I believed I did not like others judge others who are not dedicated if I felt I did not know the way but I can not know so I should seek to know if I can find way if necessary to follow churches have too many people who want to control others with their own revelations or thoughts that all need to follow that is beyond them each claiming to be the guide to follow that if you don’t follow you may not be able to repent at the end but I don’t believe it is right to judge anyone who may have been sincere in his beliefs but I don’t believe it is right to follow them but I should not make divisions
 
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I believe though God may only care about the heart as we do not know if all He cares about is one to follow Him as they want which seems convenient for them or seems best for them to please others as maybe He requires one heart to be submitted to Him He may have wanted to see if people would submit to Him by obeying Him so that they can be able to be transformed so people should be baptized and have communion too if they don’t know it is not important it could be only baptism is required but as we don’t know people should have communion though they may not be required but we should do them incase but still learn from other Christians
 
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I believe it is so important to trust God as we have faith in bible that there is a judgement day against all the ungodly and we need to seek to save souls as book of Jude says he found it necessary to contend earnestly for the faith delivered to saints we need to have faith and to be serious to have faith in what is right we should not make divisions as it is not preferred Jude said these make divisions he means those on purpose who make divisions but some do have good intentions believe that way and want to hold it out of fear but we should have trust and the point is we should not allow for it if people want to be baptized or have communion they can but I believe born again is of the heart to receive by faith baptism and communion may be necessary to be saved upon death but all are born again by the water of the word and the Spirit to make one believe I have trust in Christ He accepts all who want to do good if people want to be baptized or have communion they can be
 
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