Texas minister had sex with minor in church and motel, supplied meth according to affidavit

Mary is said to somewhere between 12 and 15 when she gave birth to Jesus, and got married to Joseph, who was older, and started having other children with him...

God Bless!

Neogaia777 said:

Mary is said to somewhere between 12 and 15 when she gave birth to Jesus, and got married to Joseph, who was older, and started having other children with him...

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'... and that concludes the case for the defence.'

Whyayeman said:

'... and that concludes the case for the defence.'

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There were some very good reasons they did things the way they did back then, with somewhat older men taking somewhat younger women as wives while they were still so young back then, etc, but I don't know that they apply today or not, etc...

You most certainly did not do things like the kinds of things we hear in and with these stories like these in the OP today, etc...

Back then, etc...

For one, you married and marriage was taken very seriously...

And sex outside of marriage was strictly forbidden and could be punished very severely, etc...

And a man had a duty to his wife, and a wife to her man or her husband, and they both took those duties very, very seriously, and it was for life, etc...

Oh and then their children once they had them as well...

And the man was usually a little bit older because he had to already be set to provide for her and continue to provide for her before he ever even got with her or he ever even married her to begin with already, etc, or else he could not, etc, not until he did or he could prove and/or show that he could, etc, only then could or would he be permitted to marry her, etc...

And marriage was taken very seriously and it was for life, etc...

I believe in God's eyes this kept extreme sexual sin and perversion from running rampant, which was a great concern of His, etc...

This was in only Jewish culture mostly though, most of what I am talking about here anyway...

Other nations had other rules, etc...

And most usually had many more problems with sexual perversion and sexual sins most usually, etc...

But and/or anyway...

God Bless!

Neogaia777 said:

somewhat older men taking somewhat younger women as wives

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First, let us distinguish between ancient traditions and 40-year-old men of the cloth grooming teenagers for sex.

Then let us agree that the kind of society that permitted 'somewhat older men taking somewhat younger women as wives' is very different from our own times in which under-age girls are protected from predatory behaviour, and women and girls are not regarded as chattels.

(Then perhaps we could agree that there is nothing Biblical about the claim that Mary was a child when she first gave birth.)

Whyayeman said:

First, let us distinguish between ancient traditions and 40-year-old men of the cloth grooming teenagers for sex.

Then let us agree that the kind of society that permitted 'somewhat older men taking somewhat younger women as wives' is very different from our own times in which under-age girls are protected from predatory behaviour, and women and girls are not regarded as chattels.

(Then perhaps we could agree that there is nothing Biblical about the claim that Mary was a child when she first gave birth.)

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I edited and added to my post...

So might want to take another look at it maybe...?

And most scholars say that Mary was at least under the age of 15 or 16 at the most, with some putting her as young as 12, and Joseph was not a 40 year old man either, but was older than her, but still young enough and virile enough to have children and/or provide for her for a very long time yet still, as he was not "super-rich", or anyone "overly important or special", etc...

But and/or anyway...

God Bless!

I thought the political left thought such behavior was "courageous" and "beautiful" hence their push to institutionalize child sex abuse across of all society.

I believe Jesus/God calls us all to an even higher standard today (Acts of the Apostles 17:30) than the kinds of things I was talking about just now, etc, which was done in part due to our weaknesses back then, and to keep down on what might happen or run rampant if they didn't, etc...

We're supposed to "better than", or "more than" today, but many of us are showing that we just still are not still, etc...

God Bless!

Whyayeman said:

First, let us distinguish between ancient traditions and 40-year-old men of the cloth grooming teenagers for sex.

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Agree, very very wrong, etc...

God Bless!

essentialsaltes said:

You're gonna need higher quality bait than that.

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Virginia's New Transgender Model Policies are institutionalized child sex abuse, as a concrete example.

Is there something defensible about the Reverend Brian Pound's behaviour?

Whyayeman said:

Is there something defensible about the Reverend Brian Pound's behaviour?

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If you believe in homosexualism or naturalism, then yes. If not, then it can't be defensed.

Fr. Appletree said:

If you believe in homosexualism or naturalism, then yes. If not, then it can't be defensed.

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Believing in homosexuality has something to do with an adult male sexuality assaulting a 15 year old female?

Aryeh Jay said:

Believing in homosexuality has something to do with an adult male sexuality assaulting a 15 year old female?

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Yes. Homosexuality is worse. If you defend and believe what is worse, then you, de facto, believe in the lesser. Homosexualism is just the acceptance of sexual evils.

Fr. Appletree said:

Yes. Homosexuality is worse. If you defend and believe what is worse, then you, de facto, believe in the lesser. Homosexualism is just the acceptance of sexual evils.

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Well it is good to see he gets a pass on molestation and providing meth to a child. I wonder if I can get a pass for bank robbery because of, you know, homosexuality is worse.

Fr. Appletree said:

If you believe in homosexualism or naturalism, then yes. If not, then it can't be defensed.

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Wow! Few threads have gone downhill so fast. Thank you, father, for the input.

Aryeh Jay said:

Well it is good to see he gets a pass on molestation and providing meth to a child. I wonder if I can get a pass for bank robbery because of, you know, homosexuality is worse.

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Hitler was straight. So not all bad.

Fr. Appletree said:

Yes. Homosexuality is worse. If you defend and believe what is worse, then you, de facto, believe in the lesser. Homosexualism is just the acceptance of sexual evils.

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Let me get this straight: in your view, consensual homosexuality between two adults is worse than drugging and raping a 15 year old, as long as the rape is heterosexual?

Neogaia777 said:

And most scholars say that Mary was at least under the age of 15 or 16 at the most

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I don't much care for the authority of scholars here. There is nothing Biblical about the assertion and it makes no difference to my view of the drugging and statutory rape of a minor by a minister.

It was a disgusting crime.