Ben & Jerry's - Another case of Progressive American Corporate Hypocrisy

FireDragon76 · Jul 21, 2021

Norbert L said:
Brings up an interesting talking point. Israel was not seeking to gain territory through conquest when they were attacked. Their surrounding countries were the aggressors seeking to conquer. In defeat they didn't offer any compensation for their assault, nor did they offer any security from further aggression. Aggression that still sends rockets to this day.

What should be said is not only does that law not apply, it's also trying to portray those that seek violence as the innocent victim.

Occupation is an inherently violent act.

Norbert L · Jul 21, 2021

IceJad said:
.. Neither side can claim a moral high ground, for both have done unspeakable atrocities to the other. To me there is no longer a victim/aggressor status that can be given. They're both victim and aggressor. It is a hot mess is all I can ever be certain of.

After 2000 years of persecution and having their nation destroyed with their lands being taken away from them, the moral high ground does not belong to anyone other than the Jews.

To be clear the only act of conquest that occurred and failed was done by the nations surrounding Israel. In their failure to reoccupy the Jewish homeland, the most unjust thing about all this is they continue to accuse Israel of doing what they actually tried to do.

FireDragon76 said:
Occupation is an inherently violent act.

A violent act occurred when certain nations surrounding the Jewish home state tried to conquer and occupy Israel. When people try to pin the blame on Israel for doing what they are actually trying to do. This too is hypocrisy.

FireDragon76 · Jul 21, 2021

Norbert L said:
A violent act occurred when certain nations surrounding the Jewish home state tried to conquer and occupy Israel. When people try to pin the blame on Israel for doing what they are actually trying to do. This too is hypocrisy.

Whataboutism. Jordan and Egypt did not force Israel to occupy the West Bank and Gaza. Israel had no UN mandate to those areas, either.

TLK Valentine · Jul 21, 2021

Nithavela said:
I guess any company that operates anywhere might as well operate everywhere, considering that every country has skeletons in its closet.

Indeed -- to a corporate entity, what's a border but an imaginary line on a map?

If they can profit from selling in ______, they'll sell in ______.

If they can profit from not selling in ______, well...

durangodawood · Jul 21, 2021

We need a proper "conservative" ice cream brand.

Goonie · Jul 21, 2021

durangodawood said:
We need a proper "conservative" ice cream brand.

Mr whippy?

durangodawood · Jul 21, 2021

Goonie said:
Mr whippy?

Not sure Im understanding the conservative branding of that.

Goonie · Jul 21, 2021

durangodawood said:
Not sure Im understanding the conservative branding of that.

The rumour is that Margaret Thatcher invented it(she did not, just worked as a chemist for the company that invented it).

Norbert L · Jul 21, 2021

FireDragon76 said:
Whataboutism. Jordan and Egypt did not force Israel to occupy the West Bank and Gaza. Israel had no UN mandate to those areas, either.

The UN is a place for negotiations. Any mandate they have can be arbitrary in nature. As you can see and hear below the U.N. allows for some nations to voice their hypocrisy and allows others to object to that hypocrisy.

durangodawood · Jul 21, 2021

Goonie said:
The rumour is that Margaret Thatcher invented it(she did not, just worked as a chemist for the company that invented it).

Better ice cream though chemistry.

IceJad · Jul 21, 2021

Norbert L said:
After 2000 years of persecution and having their nation destroyed with their lands being taken away from them, the moral high ground does not belong to anyone other than the Jews.

One cannot claim status of victimhood based on past injustices done to one's forefather. The Jews alive today are solely responsible for their own actions same as all others nations around them. If one can claim victimhood based on past injustices, I'll have more than my fair share of righteous indignation to collect from many nations today. But that is not how justice works.

The Jews are not exactly blameless in aggravating the situation to what it is today. So are their neighbors. But that is another story. This thread is meant to highlight the level of hypocrisy of American corporate virtue signaling. Just so happens B&J chose the Israeli-Palestinian hill to die on so to speak.

IceJad · Jul 21, 2021

durangodawood said:
We need a proper "conservative" ice cream brand.

Being political is what has gotten corporation into this public scrutiny in the first place. I would rather not have a company identify as conservative or liberal. How about a company that just excels in producing the best in line product and services. A novel idea that no mega corporations care about anymore.

TLK Valentine · Jul 21, 2021

durangodawood said:
We need a proper "conservative" ice cream brand.

Will they have any flavors except vanilla?

TLK Valentine · Jul 21, 2021

IceJad said:
Being political is what has gotten corporation into this public scrutiny in the first place. I would rather not have a company identify as conservative or liberal. How about a company that just excels in producing the best in line product and services. A novel idea that no mega corporations care about anymore.

Corporations are people; haven't you heard? Why shouldn't people have political views?

durangodawood · Jul 21, 2021

TLK Valentine said:
Will they have any flavors except vanilla?

Energy drink flavor... whatever that is.

TLK Valentine · Jul 21, 2021

Ignatius the Kiwi said:
The solution in general is to buy as little as possible from these brands. Literally, don't consume.

B&J has used its company as a platform to support all sorts of politically liberal views -- if you haven't already been boycotting them, you haven't been paying attention.

durangodawood · Jul 21, 2021

IceJad said:
....This thread is meant to highlight the level of hypocrisy of American corporate virtue signaling.....

Virtue signaling is an unalienable part of capitalist free enterprise. Its a critical element of branding and image making. Humans respond to that stuff. Its unrealistic to think we're just gonna turn that part of ourselves off alla sudden.

iluvatar5150 · Jul 21, 2021

Norbert L said:
After 2000 years of persecution and having their nation destroyed with their lands being taken away from them, the moral high ground does not belong to anyone other than the Jews.

To be clear the only act of conquest that occurred and failed was done by the nations surrounding Israel. In their failure to reoccupy the Jewish homeland, the most unjust thing about all this is they continue to accuse Israel of doing what they actually tried to do.

A violent act occurred when certain nations surrounding the Jewish home state tried to conquer and occupy Israel. When people try to pin the blame on Israel for doing what they are actually trying to do. This too is hypocrisy.

lol wut?

Many ethnic groups have ancient claims to land in that region. Jewish history doesn't even claim that Jews were the original inhabitants - according to the OT, they conquered the land from Canaan (and others).

durangodawood · Jul 21, 2021

Norbert L said:
After 2000 years of persecution and having their nation destroyed with their lands being taken away from them, the moral high ground does not belong to anyone other than the Jews.

Interesting moral analysis.

But I'm not ready for the ndn tribes in my area to reclaim the land I live on.

Aryeh Jay · Jul 21, 2021

durangodawood said:
Interesting moral analysis.

But I'm not ready for the ndn tribes in my area to reclaim the land I live on.

It would be easier if the ndn's had a book that they wrote that clearly said their God gave them the land forever. (After killing the original inhabitants)

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