Interesting Facebook post on Justification

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One of my Facebook friends posted today a quote from some author I don't know, but it reminded me of stuff I've read from Eastern Orthodox writers etc.

"The reason I cannot, of a good conscience, agree with the Protestant understanding of “Justification by Faith” is all because of one little word. Strong’s will tell you, with Luther, the Reformers, and countless Protestant websites, that “Justification” is “Dikaiosis” in Greek, and that it means “To be declared righteous.” For many years, this was unquestioned truth to me, and I based my whole understanding of my relationship with God on a legal process of God declaring me righteous.

This worldview was completely destroyed when, one day in 2007, I discovered that this is not what the Greek word meant. It is not a legal term, and it nowhere implies “declaration.”
The Greek root of Dikaiosis means “righteous”, and is used to mean “Saint” and “Holy” throughout the Biblical and Christian Tradition. The suffix “-osis” is the aorist tense and means “a state of”, and together the word means a “state of righteousness” not “to be declared righteous.”

If the Septuagint gives the lexical context for the use of this word in the Ancient Church, the Protestant assignment of the meaning of the Latin word “iustificario” from the Vulgate (which was a legal word and assigned by St. Jerome in the 5th century), is an improper assignment. It was a simple mistake to make, but careful scholars can’t allow it to stand when so much hinges on the meaning of this one little word.

To be “legally declared righteous” results in Luther’s famous “snow-covered dung” analogy. To be truly transformed by God’s grace through faith means that we are made into the likeness of Christ. One is external and involves God pretending, the Holy Trinity conspiring within itself to save mankind through legal loopholes, and Christ hiding us from the wrath of God the Father in an act of holy deception. The other is an actual relationship with God that manifests our original purpose and the harmony of Trinity for our salvation, and Christ fulfilled the will of the Father by the power of the Holy Spirit.

We are indeed “Justified by Faith”, but this means that we are actually made righteous by the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives, not merely declared to be something that we are not."
-Bishop Joseph Boyd


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The legal use of the term has never quite sat right with me, especially as Paul's context doesn't call to mind a trial before a judge but a presentation before a king. The question is not guilt/innocence but a multifaceted question of which innocence and guilt is but a small aspect of. If it helps, the New Testament Word Study Dictionary has this:

1344. δικαιόω dikaióō; contracted dikaiṓ, fut. dikaiṓsō, from dı́kaios (1342), just, righteous. To justify. Verbs which end in –óō generally indicate bringing out that which a person is or that which is desired, but not usually referring to the mode in which the action takes place. In the case of dikaióō, it means to bring out the fact that a person is righteous.
 
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Good Day,

Classic mistake the good Bishop is confusing Justification with Sanctification....

Justification is something said about you while Sanctification is done to you.

δικαίωσις | billmounce.com

Definition:
pr. a making right or just; a declaration of right or justice; a judicial sentence; in NT, acquittal, acceptance, justification, Rom. 4:25; 5:18*


In Him,

Bill
 
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We are indeed “Justified by Faith”, but this means that we are actually made righteous by the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives, not merely declared to be something that we are not."
-Bishop Joseph Boyd

The elect are first legally Justified by the obedience of Christ alone Rom 5:9,19 and sometime later they will be born again by the Spirit giving them a new nature that pleases God.

At newbirth we can say there is a impartation of righteousness, to evidence the legal righteousness.
 
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Good Day,

Classic mistake the good Bishop is confusing Justification with Sanctification....

Justification is something said about you while Sanctification is done to you.

δικαίωσις | billmounce.com

Definition:
pr. a making right or just; a declaration of right or justice; a judicial sentence; in NT, acquittal, acceptance, justification, Rom. 4:25; 5:18*


In Him,

Bill


I don't think there is any confusion at all. What your talking about is just the Western Christian rationalization of things coming out of Augustine's battle with Pelagianism.



I also posted this a few months back on Facebook, on a similar topic.

"The term Atonement (very big in many people's theologies) does not exist until the 16th Century... One of the little nuggets I got from "the Religion of the Apostles" and it seems to check out... It is very significant however because relatively speaking it is more a modern concept, but many people who claim "Biblical" views (which they believe are ancient, true to the original etc.) are making their doctrinal critiques based on it rather than older Greek and Hebrew terms from the classical age of Christianity. So this means we got a potential problem of revisionist history going on..."
 
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One of my Facebook friends posted today a quote from some author I don't know, but it reminded me of stuff I've read from Eastern Orthodox writers etc.

"The reason I cannot, of a good conscience, agree with the Protestant understanding of “Justification by Faith” is all because of one little word. Strong’s will tell you, with Luther, the Reformers, and countless Protestant websites, that “Justification” is “Dikaiosis” in Greek, and that it means “To be declared righteous.” For many years, this was unquestioned truth to me, and I based my whole understanding of my relationship with God on a legal process of God declaring me righteous.

This worldview was completely destroyed when, one day in 2007, I discovered that this is not what the Greek word meant. It is not a legal term, and it nowhere implies “declaration.”
The Greek root of Dikaiosis means “righteous”, and is used to mean “Saint” and “Holy” throughout the Biblical and Christian Tradition. The suffix “-osis” is the aorist tense and means “a state of”, and together the word means a “state of righteousness” not “to be declared righteous.”
A "state" is an outward position of righteousness, not an inner transformation.
If the Septuagint gives the lexical context for the use of this word in the Ancient Church, the Protestant assignment of the meaning of the Latin word “iustificario” from the Vulgate (which was a legal word and assigned by St. Jerome in the 5th century), is an improper assignment. It was a simple mistake to make, but careful scholars can’t allow it to stand when so much hinges on the meaning of this one little word.

To be “legally declared righteous” results in Luther’s famous “snow-covered dung” analogy.
To be truly transformed by God’s grace through faith means that we are made into the likeness of Christ.
If we are made into the likeness of Christ, then why all the NT commands to be sanctified and holy?

". . .be holy in all you do; for it is written: 'Be holy, because I am holy--Leviticus 11:44-45.' "

(1 Peter 1:15-16)

". . .called to be holy" (1 Corinthians 1:2)


. . .slaves to sin which leads to death. . .slaves to obedience which leads to righteousness."

(Romans 6:16)

"Just as you used to offer parts of your body in slavery to impurity, so now
offer your body in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness." (Romans 6:19)


Now that you have. . .become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness. (Romans 6:22)


". . .let us purify ourselves from everthing that contaminates body and spirit,

perfecting (completing) holiness out of reverence for God. (2 Corinthians 7:1)

"Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth)"

(Ephesians 5:9)

". . .pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness." (1 Timothy 6:11)


". . .pursue righteusness, faith, love and peace. . ." (2 Timothy 2:22)


". . .all Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for. . .training in righteousness." (2 Timothy 3:16)


"God disciplines us for our good that we may share in his holiness. . . discipline produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it." (Hebrews 12:10-11)


"die to sin and live for righteousness" (1 Peter 2:24)


"everyone who does what is right has been born of him." (1 John 2:29)


"he who does what is right is righteous. . .he does what is sinful is of the devil," (1 John 3:7)


"Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means!" (Romans 6:1)


"Do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desire." (Romans 6:12)


"Do not offer the parts of your body to sin. . .Offer them to God as instruments of righteousness." (Romans 6:13)


"Without holiness, no one will see the Lord." (Hebrews 12:14)

One is external and involves God pretending, the Holy Trinity conspiring within itself to save mankind through legal loopholes, and Christ hiding us from the wrath of God the Father in an act of holy deception. The other is an actual relationship with God that manifests our original purpose and the harmony of Trinity for our salvation, and Christ fulfilled the will of the Father by the power of the Holy Spirit.

We are indeed “Justified by Faith”, but this means that we are actually made righteous by the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives, not merely declared to be something that we are not."
-Bishop Joseph Boyd
Your Facebook friend has it wrong.
 
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If we are made into the likeness of Christ, then why all the NT commands to be sanctified and holy?


No my new friend has it right, because if he would have kept on writing or talking to explain his POV, I'm sure he would have gotten into theosis which is one of the big themes/doctrines of the EO and he is an EO presbyter after all.... But in that post, he didn't mention it because he assumed his other friends had that as a theological given.

And for that I will cite this handy little video from a Lutheran theologian who is explaining the concept of Christofication which is sort of the same thing with some fine nuance distinctions.


 
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No my friend has it right, I believe because if he would have kept on writing or talking to explain his POV, I'm sure he would have gotten into theosis which is the big theme of the EO and he is an EO presbyter after all.
Right about what. . .his translation of the Greek word, or his meaning of the word "state"?
He is incorrect in his meaning of the word "state" to be something internal.
And for that I will cite this handy little video from a Lutheran theologian who is explaining the concept of Christofication which is sort of the same thing with some fine nuance distinctions.
The definintion of "state" is not in agreement with your friend's understanding of the imputed righteousness of justification as internal transformation.
And his understanding of "state" is not consistent with all the NT commands to be sanctified and holy, since according to his understanding, we already are.

And you didn't answer my question:
If we are made into the likeness of Christ, then why all the NT commands to be sanctified and holy?

Aren't we already sanctified and holy according to their notion of "state of righteousness"?
 
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The definintion of "state" is not in agreement with your friend's understanding of imputed righteousness at justification.

And you didn't answer my question:
If we are made into the likeness of Christ, then why all the NT commands to be sanctified and holy?

Aren't we already sanctified and holy according to their notion of "state of righteousness"?

Yeah that post is coming from a different standpoint than Western Jurist Soteriology.....


But watching the previous video might help, if your willing to take the time.
 
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Something that seems to be lost in the discussion is the question of if justification and sanctification are separate and distinct entities, what is the means of accessing sanctification? It would seem to me that both are achieved via the same route, through faith. Faith does not end with the "declaration"(if such a thing is a genuine fact and not a literary convenience) but is a manner of living life. Faith justifies because the righteous live by faith, and in living by faith we will be sanctified(or Christified or however it is desired to be expressed.) So functionally, why is the doctrine of justification by faith as a distinctive important in the current climate?
 
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Yeah that post is coming from a different standpoint than Western Jurist Soteriology.....
I'm not talking about anything but the plain words of the texts, which are not being dealt with.
 
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I'm not talking about anything but the plain words of the texts, which are not being dealt with.

It's not the plain meaning of the text.... you are assuming "Imputed Righteousness" as a given....
That is clear as day if you back track in your earlier posts...

The EO do not have an official term or write ups that I can find right now but it would be closer to something like imparted and infused righteousness below (the article however is obviously written from the standpoint of someone believing in imputed righteousness).


What are the Doctrines of Imputed, Infused, and Imparted Righteousness?
 
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It's not the plain meaning of the text.... you are assuming "Imputed Righteousness" as a given.... That is clear as day if you back track in your earlier posts...
I'm referring to the texts of the NT commands I presented to be sanctified and holy, to pursue righteousness, and the EO doctrine of righteousness being inconsistent with those texts.
That is what has not been addressed.
The EO do not have an official term or write ups that I can find right now but it would be closer to something like imparted and infused righteousness below (the article however is obviously written from the standpoint of someone believing in imputed righteousness).


What are the Doctrines of Imputed, Infused, and Imparted Righteousness?
 
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I'm referring to the texts of the NT commands I presented to be sanctified and holy, to pursue righteousness, and the EO doctrine of righteousness being inconsistent with those texts.
That is what has not been addressed.


going to rewrite my response.
 
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and the EO doctrine of righteousness being inconsistent with those texts.
That is what has not been addressed.


They were addressed but I'm taking this from the top.


A "state" is an outward position of righteousness, not an inner transformation. If we are made into the likeness of Christ, then why all the NT commands to be sanctified and holy?

1) The EO deal with this with talk about theosis etc. Theosis is the process of being conformed into the image of Christ, that comes with our Communion with the Trinity.


2) They do not believe in imputed righteousness that was a term Luther and Calvin made up and popularized!


3) Besides that there are other views regarding righteousness as mentioned previously there is also "infused righteousness" and "imparted righteousness", but there is not an official EO term but it definitely somewhere in the infused and imparted camp, probably a concept that has both... They use terms like synergy, being energized etc. which actually are terms from the Greek NT (energia aka energy)
 
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They were addressed but I'm taking this from the top.
1) The EO deal with this with talk about theosis etc. Theosis is the process of being conformed into the image of Christ, that comes with our Communion with the Trinity.
2) They do not believe in imputed righteousness that was a term Luther and Calvin made up and popularized!
Thanks. . .appreciate the explanation.

However, "imputed" means credited/reckoned/accounted to, and the Biblical view
is taught
in Genesis 15:6; Romans 4:3-5, Romans 4:22,
it applies to the New Covenant (Romans 4:9-11),
it is called "justification" (Romans 4:25) and
it is positional, a right standing with God's justice; i.e., "not guilty' (because of remission of sin through faith in Jesus Christ), righteous, sanctified (set apart),
it is not internal holiness, which is the outcome of the lifetime sanctification process through obedience in the Holy Spirit.

The EO has it wrong.
3) Besides that there are other views regarding righteousness as mentioned previously there is also "infused righteousness" and "imparted righteousness", but there is not an official EO term but it definitely somewhere in the infused and imparted camp, probably a concept that has both... They use terms like synergy, being energized etc. which actually are terms from the Greek NT (energia aka energy)
 
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To be “legally declared righteous” results in Luther’s famous “snow-covered dung” analogy. To be truly transformed by God’s grace through faith means that we are made into the likeness of Christ. One is external and involves God pretending, the Holy Trinity conspiring within itself to save mankind through legal loopholes, and Christ hiding us from the wrath of God the Father in an act of holy deception. The other is an actual relationship with God that manifests our original purpose and the harmony of Trinity for our salvation, and Christ fulfilled the will of the Father by the power of the Holy Spirit.

We are indeed “Justified by Faith”, but this means that we are actually made righteous by the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives, not merely declared to be something that we are not."
-Bishop Joseph Boyd

I agree we need to continually allow the sanctification process to work in us all the days of our lives.....but if one is saying they have to reach a certain place in that process to be declared justified one could NEVER come boldly to the throne of Grace to receive his grace and mercy in time of need. The only way you can come boldly is by understanding that you are justified because of the precious blood of Jesus which has blotted out your sins, leaving no sense of condemnation. And our boldness isn't based on something arrogant about us but again....on the precious blood of Jesus and what it accomplished.
 
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